So like the title says I spent a whole lot of time looking up which vaporizer I want to get but I have only narrowed it down to 7:
The logs which are PD, WDZ, and MZ.
The whips which are DB, SSV and part time bag EQ.
And lastly the No2.
What am I looking for in a vape?
-Around $200
-I can use it everyday
-Easy and safe to use (not hot to touch, easy maintenance, etc.)
-Known to be reliable and built to last (dont want to waste an investment)
-Preference to portable vapes (I want it to be easily passable to another person)
-Highly efficient but as close as possible to providing the killer feeling one gets if they were taking bong hits
-Good to use in small groups (3-5 people max)
When it comes to bags v whips v direct it doesnt matter too much to me nor does the fact it produces cloudy hits or not. I just care if it gets the job done and does it well.
The logs:
First they seem awesome from what I read here, though all the great reviews seem to be concentrated on this forum making me a little suspicious (not to say that there aren't great reviews on others).
I like that they are probably the most efficient vapes, give great hits, and they look great allowing them to double as an air freshener.
What I dont like is the 30 minute warm up time, that it has to be plugged in to work (though I think there is a battery pack I could get?), and the one I would want out of the three would be a PD which would take 4-6 weeks (confirmed?) to get.
So Id rather not wait and was wondering especially about how equivalent the WDZ and the MZ actually are. The fact that one of them uses brass elements is really a non-factor to me. What I am looking more is whether anyone has had a problem with any of the logs which includes normal wear and tear and all that. Also how much work is needed to use it and keep it clean?
The whips:
The whips are cool and seem like theyd be easier to use than the logs. Again both the SSV and the DB have gotten great reviews and seem the same with the difference being aesthetics and price. If anything Im leaning towards DB only if I know Im not sacrificing anything other than aesthetics and price.
I like that they seem to give great hits and can be used in groups.
What I really dont like about these two (other than what was said about the logs that apply here as well (i.e., needs to be plugged in)) is that it looks like you can easily burn yourself on the exposed glass on top and really would not want to have to worry about it while putting the wand up to the elbow joint. I also dont like the fact that the herbs sit in the end of the wand which to me looks like it can easily fall out if youre not holding it upright the entire time. This is especially important when I read that a few of you accidently blew into the tube causing the herb to go into the heating element and sometimes started a mini-fire which concerns me quite a bit. Also I dont like the fact that you need to hold the wand to the heating glass and would like a more hands-free version without having to get a flimsy looking metal plate (unless it works super well and is reliable). Lastly, I dont care for the temperature controls which make it seem like its part guessing game as to how far to turn the knob since it has no marks on the thing to guide you.
As for the EQ I like the fact that it can double as a whip and a bag even though I heard their bags often spring leaks (what would be a good replacement bag to use?). I love the options it has but am unsure whether they are actually going to be used (like who the hell needs a remote?).
More importantly Im wondering whether the EQ also has a dont touch the hot surface problem that the DB and SSV seem to have.
Again I dont like that it has to be plugged in but it seems to be balanced by the fact its more hands free than the vapes already mentioned. Lastly EQ has been said to be great all around but not great at one specific thing, which Im wondering if the differences between the EQ and the other is enough where I should just stay away if I want a quality vape.
Lastly the No2:
It seems like the No2 is the pariah on this site as Ive come across more horror stories about the battery failing or the plastic electronic taste than makes me comfortable. But Im still very interested because Ive used one on many occasions since my friend has owned one for the last 7 months and has none of those problems except for a minor screen buildup he had to clean one time. He uses it multiple times a day btw.
I love the fact that its extremely portable, quick to heat up, can be passed and used by several people, doesnt get too hot to touch anywhere on the vape, and it gives pretty good hits. But still the only thing that concerns me is the bad reviews Ive read about people getting the lemons. I guess this will be up to how much risk I am willing to take in buying one.
Once last thing that applies to all the vapes (less so the logs) is that I'm looking to save by buying off ebay and know that some manufacturers, like the No2 for example, do not honor a warranty if bought under MAP. Does this apply to the EQ, DB, and SSV as well?
Thanks for reading and any help/replies.
The logs which are PD, WDZ, and MZ.
The whips which are DB, SSV and part time bag EQ.
And lastly the No2.
What am I looking for in a vape?
-Around $200
-I can use it everyday
-Easy and safe to use (not hot to touch, easy maintenance, etc.)
-Known to be reliable and built to last (dont want to waste an investment)
-Preference to portable vapes (I want it to be easily passable to another person)
-Highly efficient but as close as possible to providing the killer feeling one gets if they were taking bong hits
-Good to use in small groups (3-5 people max)
When it comes to bags v whips v direct it doesnt matter too much to me nor does the fact it produces cloudy hits or not. I just care if it gets the job done and does it well.
The logs:
First they seem awesome from what I read here, though all the great reviews seem to be concentrated on this forum making me a little suspicious (not to say that there aren't great reviews on others).
I like that they are probably the most efficient vapes, give great hits, and they look great allowing them to double as an air freshener.
What I dont like is the 30 minute warm up time, that it has to be plugged in to work (though I think there is a battery pack I could get?), and the one I would want out of the three would be a PD which would take 4-6 weeks (confirmed?) to get.
So Id rather not wait and was wondering especially about how equivalent the WDZ and the MZ actually are. The fact that one of them uses brass elements is really a non-factor to me. What I am looking more is whether anyone has had a problem with any of the logs which includes normal wear and tear and all that. Also how much work is needed to use it and keep it clean?
The whips:
The whips are cool and seem like theyd be easier to use than the logs. Again both the SSV and the DB have gotten great reviews and seem the same with the difference being aesthetics and price. If anything Im leaning towards DB only if I know Im not sacrificing anything other than aesthetics and price.
I like that they seem to give great hits and can be used in groups.
What I really dont like about these two (other than what was said about the logs that apply here as well (i.e., needs to be plugged in)) is that it looks like you can easily burn yourself on the exposed glass on top and really would not want to have to worry about it while putting the wand up to the elbow joint. I also dont like the fact that the herbs sit in the end of the wand which to me looks like it can easily fall out if youre not holding it upright the entire time. This is especially important when I read that a few of you accidently blew into the tube causing the herb to go into the heating element and sometimes started a mini-fire which concerns me quite a bit. Also I dont like the fact that you need to hold the wand to the heating glass and would like a more hands-free version without having to get a flimsy looking metal plate (unless it works super well and is reliable). Lastly, I dont care for the temperature controls which make it seem like its part guessing game as to how far to turn the knob since it has no marks on the thing to guide you.
As for the EQ I like the fact that it can double as a whip and a bag even though I heard their bags often spring leaks (what would be a good replacement bag to use?). I love the options it has but am unsure whether they are actually going to be used (like who the hell needs a remote?).
More importantly Im wondering whether the EQ also has a dont touch the hot surface problem that the DB and SSV seem to have.
Again I dont like that it has to be plugged in but it seems to be balanced by the fact its more hands free than the vapes already mentioned. Lastly EQ has been said to be great all around but not great at one specific thing, which Im wondering if the differences between the EQ and the other is enough where I should just stay away if I want a quality vape.
Lastly the No2:
It seems like the No2 is the pariah on this site as Ive come across more horror stories about the battery failing or the plastic electronic taste than makes me comfortable. But Im still very interested because Ive used one on many occasions since my friend has owned one for the last 7 months and has none of those problems except for a minor screen buildup he had to clean one time. He uses it multiple times a day btw.
I love the fact that its extremely portable, quick to heat up, can be passed and used by several people, doesnt get too hot to touch anywhere on the vape, and it gives pretty good hits. But still the only thing that concerns me is the bad reviews Ive read about people getting the lemons. I guess this will be up to how much risk I am willing to take in buying one.
Once last thing that applies to all the vapes (less so the logs) is that I'm looking to save by buying off ebay and know that some manufacturers, like the No2 for example, do not honor a warranty if bought under MAP. Does this apply to the EQ, DB, and SSV as well?
Thanks for reading and any help/replies.