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I v tried my preparation. A small dose to start. Around a table spoon mixed with yogurt.
It was mainly a mild body effect. Quite pleasant. Will increase the dose today.
 
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You could decarb the material wet, in oil. It will bubble as the decarb takes place it will just take a lot longer and requires more baby sitting as you watch the decarb process and wait for it to stop. Although I tend to always baby sit my extractions and :science: experiments anyway. Concentrates can make this process much easier and quicker though. Lots of good info with badkat as previously posted and gray wolf posts on IC forum or their site http://skunkpharmresearch.com/decarboxylation/

Good luck.
 
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Now I understand why my preparation has mainly sedative efx....the heavy vaporisation produced by the VG has left mainly CBD ....
Any way in the link below is not clear what kind of oil to use...they write about solvent...alcool...glicerine...so beside some useful info regarding THCA\CBDA ...THC\CBD and their relation with decarb process, it is not clear what kind of oil tu use...why glicerine ? Can I just use olive oil ? And wait till the bubbles will occur ? Not sure also about the temperature ...how to reach 250° ? Sorry for the stupid questions but kind of new on the subject...
 
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cat420 said:
Now I understand why my preparation has mainly sedative efx....the heavy vaporisation produced by the VG has left mainly CBD ....
Any way in the link below is not clear what kind of oil to use...they write about solvent...alcool...glicerine...so beside some useful info regarding THCA\CBDA ...THC\CBD and their relation with decarb process, it is not clear what kind of oil tu use...why glicerine ? Can I just use olive oil ? And wait till the bubbles will occur ? Not sure also about the temperature ...how to reach 250° ? Sorry for the stupid questions but kind of new on the subject...
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No worries.

You can use olive oil. Personally I prefer to use coconut oil or MCT oil. Most people metabolize cannabinoids best through medium chain triglycerides (MCT's) coconut oil or MCT oil which is primarily extracted from coconut oil anyway contain the highest percentages of MCT's. They don't specify a particular solvent because the basic effects of heat, decarb, and degradation of cannabinoids apply to any cannabis preparation. I personally use a double boiler setup because it gives much more control over temperature and if you can adjust your decarb in response to your temp fluctuations as necessary. I setup my boiler pot using a cheap canola/veggie oil to get temps up above waters boiling point of 212 and attain the proper decarb temp of 250. I monitor my actual extraction oils temp with a candy thermometer or a similarly accurate tool submerged in my extraction chamber/jar. After my decarb is complete at 250, time will depend on temps and material (age, moisture content, flower, hash, etc) I look for the large carbon bubbles to stop. Normally this occurs 20-35 after attaining 250 degrees. I lower the temps down to 220 to infuse the now activated cannbinoids to the edible solvent of your choice (oil/glycerine). I also add soy/sun flower lecithin to improve bioavailability and help homogenize the cannabinoids in the solvent for more consistent dosing. Depending on the effects I am looking for, will depend on how long I process. I would read through Bad Kats process on oil infusing she also recommends freezing in between your periods of heat at 220 to help break down the cannabinoids further into your edible substrate.
 
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I v test for the third time the dosing of my preparation.
So day 1 : arnd 1 table spoon full of frozen medicated butter (same for my wife) , the result was a relaxing effect mainly in the body ; day 2 : 2 table spoon full of frozen butter (this time only for me), the result was pretty similar to the previous day with a pleasant relaxed body feeling; day 3 : 3 table spoon for me and 2 table spoon for my wife , the result was something I did not expect : My wife after few hours could not move any more...not even lift her head up. She did enter in a kind of horror movie ...really I v never seen something like that : she was fighting monsters and having really heavy visions...she was shivering ...crying...her eyes became totally white by turning up...really she was looking like possessed by some kind of evil entity. I was a bit scared..being also quite high myself but I did not lose control ...try to calm her down...this was going on for almost 5 hours...after she started vomiting ..after vomiting a couple of time I gave her a long relaxing massage and she start feeling better. Now, after 12 hours, she is fine...and she feels like having pushed out from her body all impurities and negative feelings and she feels stronger than ever...at the end all turned on it's positive side but I'm telling you : it was a really heavy\scary fight....Amazing how powerful the extraction from abv can be. So at the end my simple recipe is working fine...I can't imagine doing the same with fresh material how powerful could be...and not easy to find out the right dose without a good scale I guess, Happy new years to all !
 
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hd_rider said:
When mixing ABV with butter, what is a good ratio to start with for a first-timer? I know there are many variables to consider, depending on strain, how cooked the ABV is, etc. I'm just looking for a starting point.
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Actually what I'v written in the first message is wrong , I'v used more or less 150 gr of butter for 15 gr of dark brown abv. I have reported here the efx related to each amount of butter ingested.
 
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she was fighting monsters and having really heavy visions...she was shivering ...crying...her eyes became totally white by turning up...really she was looking like possessed by some kind of evil entity.
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Damn. Last time something like this happened to my wife was back around 1980. She came home and without me talking to her first, drank a cup of concentrated shroom tea. It was like 5-6 doses. :doh:

She said it was Kinda like lNightmare on Elm Street :suspicious:
 
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But I like it!
Some times when making budder or concentrates i feel like a lightweight walter white. But even so we need to be careful what we do. A couple of weeks back i made a lb of coconut oil with ~20g abv. To to it up i put in 10 grams of fresh herb. The original plan was use 1/4 cup budder and top with butter for recipes. So the next batch of cookies i ignored the plan and put the entire lb in. I had 2 warm cookies with milk. Then another. Them sat down for a bit, and woke up 4 hours later. I wound up sleeping most of the day away, and then broke the cookies into pieces and diluted them in pudding :)
 
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cat420 said:
I v test for the third time the dosing of my preparation.
So day 1 : arnd 1 table spoon full of frozen medicated butter (same for my wife) , the result was a relaxing effect mainly in the body ; day 2 : 2 table spoon full of frozen butter (this time only for me), the result was pretty similar to the previous day with a pleasant relaxed body feeling; day 3 : 3 table spoon for me and 2 table spoon for my wife , the result was something I did not expect : My wife after few hours could not move any more...not even lift her head up. She did enter in a kind of horror movie ...really I v never seen something like that : she was fighting monsters and having really heavy visions...she was shivering ...crying...her eyes became totally white by turning up...really she was looking like possessed by some kind of evil entity. I was a bit scared..being also quite high myself but I did not lose control ...try to calm her down...this was going on for almost 5 hours...after she started vomiting ..after vomiting a couple of time I gave her a long relaxing massage and she start feeling better. Now, after 12 hours, she is fine...and she feels like having pushed out from her body all impurities and negative feelings and she feels stronger than ever...at the end all turned on it's positive side but I'm telling you : it was a really heavy\scary fight....Amazing how powerful the extraction from abv can be. So at the end my simple recipe is working fine...I can't imagine doing the same with fresh material how powerful could be...and not easy to find out the right dose without a good scale I guess, Happy new years to all !
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I've had a similar experience, last Spring, when I dove headfirst into as much cannabis as I could use, following the death of a friend.

A great deal of healing resulted from that singular, uncomfortable experience.. yes, I threw up too... and the wailing, the babbling, the worry that I may not actually come back out of it!... but, from here, I can see how amazingly healing cannabis is, and that I needed to have that something happen...

I'd suggest your dear wife not take 2 Tbls again! :) however, I'd be surprised if there wasn't some kind of systemic improvement on its way. :)
 
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