Old_muel
Well-Known Member


Thanks I kinda got turned off the Sai after reading endless shit on reddit about recent materials safety concerns & general shadyness
Hardly anything about it anywhere but shit that sounds pretty damn amazing, can't find a photo anywhere of it on a mod. It does look like it'd be fairly small & inconspicuous, how is it stealth wise when on a mod? Thanks man
My only complaint would be for that cost the mouth piece is just a cheap little piece that detracts from all the great things about it. Just my opinion.
I have the Sai and the DV3 and the and the and the and the...... as far as I am concerned they all sit in the drawer and I use the Arcadia Longmada Motar. Quartz cup that wipes nice and clean. Top flow. However, the thing about this one that puts all the others in the drawer is that it never seems to get too hot to the touch. I am a chain smoker and I do hit after hit after hit. My Sai gets so hot that I can't even touch it. The DV3 is a tiny bit better but not much. The Motar has fins on the side like the VapCap that cool the unit so well, it almost never gets hot to the touch.
The stem is a love me or hate me. I think they have a straight stem version also but the one I have (actually, I have 2) have the 'giraffe' stem that comes out the side. I love that but it takes away from the 'put it in a pocket' feature that I can get with the Sai or the DV3.
I bought mine in the USA from the authorized distributor in Denver and had it in a couple days.Search Longmada Motar on eBay. Under 25 bux.
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I have the Sai and the DV3 and the and the and the and the...... as far as I am concerned they all sit in the drawer and I use the Arcadia Longmada Motar. Quartz cup that wipes nice and clean. Top flow. However, the thing about this one that puts all the others in the drawer is that it never seems to get too hot to the touch. I am a chain smoker and I do hit after hit after hit. My Sai gets so hot that I can't even touch it. The DV3 is a tiny bit better but not much. The Motar has fins on the side like the VapCap that cool the unit so well, it almost never gets hot to the touch.
The stem is a love me or hate me. I think they have a straight stem version also but the one I have (actually, I have 2) have the 'giraffe' stem that comes out the side. I love that but it takes away from the 'put it in a pocket' feature that I can get with the Sai or the DV3.
I bought mine in the USA from the authorized distributor in Denver and had it in a couple days.Search Longmada Motar on eBay. Under 25 bux.
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My Sai top flow does not have cooling fins. Maybe they have a newer model. The Sai works OK (although I don't like metal buckets) but it was too damn hot to even return to my pocket after using it. Granted, like I said before, I am a chain smoker. Still, the Motar never gets hot and I use it the same way.
I also use the Motar with my water bong. I simply stick the end of the mouthpiece into the hose on my Arizer Extreme elbow and it pops right into the bong.
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If that doesn't make sense, let me know and I'll snap a picture for you.
Also, there are other mouthpieces available. Plus, some mouthpieces from other vapes might work. I'll check some out.
Overall, this puppy wins the race.
Thanks heaps guys good stuff there, yeah gotta pass on the motar purely due to the unwieldy crack-pipe appearance, definately aiming for super-stealth chameleon style here as I'm in a non-friendly countryso either generic vape-pen or generic box-mod appearance it is. Hits on Hand got back to me & it'd be 180usd for the Firebox shipped
, unfortunately out of my budget now but on my radar for the future, actually being a concentrate virgin never having dabbed or even used a wax pen yet I'm now kinda wondering if the large capacity is really even needed & if a more simple mainstream pen style might do me for a first device, also having never dabbled in coil building & such, the molecule rda definitely seems a bit complex for a first device so that's out. Tough decision (although am known to over-think things, both a blessing & a curse of course). Sai is out too as I've been looking at the Triton os now aswell & would get that rather than the Sai. Linx hypnos zero I could get for a half-decent price though it seems a bit outdated? (& expensive atomizers). Source slim 4 is sold out locally now (
was lookin good too) so basically atm I'm down to Triton os or Linx zero (or a better pen one if you guys can recommend, dr dabber aurora & puffco plus both seem pretty over-hyped with sub-par performmance, durability & materials right?) Found a 15% coupon for puffitup, any way to get any more off, Thanks so much folks, FC rules!!!
Thanks heaps guys good stuff there, yeah gotta pass on the motar purely due to the unwieldy crack-pipe appearance, definately aiming for super-stealth chameleon style here as I'm in a non-friendly countryso either generic vape-pen or generic box-mod appearance it is. Hits on Hand got back to me & it'd be 180usd for the Firebox shipped
, unfortunately out of my budget now but on my radar for the future, actually being a concentrate virgin never having dabbed or even used a wax pen yet I'm now kinda wondering if the large capacity is really even needed & if a more simple mainstream pen style might do me for a first device, also having never dabbled in coil building & such, the molecule rda definitely seems a bit complex for a first device so that's out. Tough decision (although am known to over-think things, both a blessing & a curse of course). Sai is out too as I've been looking at the Triton os now aswell & would get that rather than the Sai. Linx hypnos zero I could get for a half-decent price though it seems a bit outdated? (& expensive atomizers). Source slim 4 is sold out locally now (
was lookin good too) so basically atm I'm down to Triton os or Linx zero (or a better pen one if you guys can recommend, dr dabber aurora & puffco plus both seem pretty over-hyped with sub-par performmance, durability & materials right?) Found a 15% coupon for puffitup, any way to get any more off, Thanks so much folks, FC rules!!!
Thanks Florduh the Sai really does seem pretty perfect, only concern being materials my paranoia just really got piqued reading all that shit on reddit, does it have a thread on here don't think I've really seen it mentioned much are there many FC'ers using it? Chime in if ya want y'all hey hey what's up. Not real worried bout Ti off-gassing it was more just the mentions of some foreign tastes & smells & ceramic possibly being inferior quality & flaking/chipping then being inhaled, & the owner apparrently going MIA after being pressured about materials, yeah all heresay but that's all it takes to muddy the waters & turn people off, especially if there's other more appearingly known-safe options but I guess when it comes down to it for any of em we just don't know, & living under capitalism where money is god of course the majority of em aren't gonna have our health as their top priority (see I can overthink shit a bit
). Are the ceramic donuts fully sealed off from the underneath I'd be using those ones I reckon? Hmm just dunno, any opinion on whether W9 deserve their seeming reputation of being the most health conscious? That's the only reason I've been leaning towards the triton, guess I'd rather have to work out some kinks but have known-safe materials if that is actually the case.
And wow thanks tennisguru that's an insane price! Shows how much the retailers are making. So you can also use it on a mod for a bit of TC action? it says ego threaded & my pico is 510 I think, I guess I'd need an adapter or does it already have one that comes off to make it 510?, and how do you tell when you get it if it's real or not? This one is extremely tempting but does seem a little risky, cheers man.
I think my choice is now down to the Yocan from fasstech AND the Sai - or the Triton. Thanks again guys.
The Humboldt Vape Tech Saionara with Top airflow and Ti bucket.
I've tried tons of Wax Pens and always had lackluster results.
The TAF Sai delivers tasty vapor every time. I haven't fucked with the settings since I got it.
And you just Q-Tip it after every Session.
Nice and Easy.
I'm convinced now and I'm seriously looking to get the Sai from HVT.
So Top Airflow and Ti Bucket
luckily the SS has has the Ti Bucket, since all the Ti stuff is sold out.
It's the many different types of coils that scares me away.
Can you please recommend what specific coils I should get? Thanks
Yeah I think I'm coming round too, They do have extra Ti bucket coils on their site pretty sure, wondering what the miracle a & b coils are all about, probly just stick to the Ti bucket myself anyway. So no thread for it on here yet?