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This thing went crazy. Glad someone got the weird humor. I never meant to imply we're beta testers. Factually it doesn't sound like we were meant to be. I did mean though that the current situation feels like that's how it's been.

Just read it. I have a feeling it's going to get worse before it gets better.

I wasn't trying to condemn Trevor, hopper, or anyone on that team. Testing is an absolute must for new products. High or low tech. We do not know what has or hasn't been tested. As all I can find are proof of concept lab tests. I commend these guys for going for it. They may have over hyped...

Can you speak more to their past experience? I'm just curious.. Maybe they truly have little manufacturing experience. Yet any engineer who has worked in product design should have dfma, design for manufacturability and assembly, down.

These guys remind me of myself when I first started out as an engineer. In terms of how I communicated to the customer. I'm great at solving problems and a good communicator normally. Except when dealing with quality concerns or warranty issues I dreaded speaking with them. Mostly because I...

Any chance for an esv stem? It looks like a standard e cig style with the o ring seal. Heck I would also buy one for an e cig if you would be interested in that??