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I definitely agree it's a big "if" and that's where I anticipated the conversation to center around rather than disputing whether CO2 does or doesn't make people high...since "CO2 gets people high" wasn't my point. I can see that I handled that part of the conversation clumsily since you're...

I can wrap my mind around that perspective. If you check my post history you'll notice I only check in once in a while every few years. It may very well be true that I'm not aware of what is available on the market currently. I'll try to be less verbose :) The argument is not: conduction...

Yet another example of your continual straw-manning this conversation. It's obvious to anyone approaching this conversation in good-faith that I am not arguing smoke gets people high due to any psychoactive components in the smoke. Just like it's obvious I am not arguing people get high from...

1. Combustion can lead to smoke inhalation. T/F? 2. CO2 inhalation/oxygen deprivation can lead to symptoms similar to being "high" even when the "smoke" has no psychoactive qualities. T/F? 3. Therefore, smoking enough of anything can lead to feeling "high." T/F? You quoted the longform of...

Yes, it's nonsensical the way that was written. That's what straw-man arguments do. What I claimed was that the state of being "high" is a socially learned responses to certain physiological stimuli. Then I listed various examples of people experiencing distressful physiological stimuli, some...

The problem is that you're doing it in a bad faith way. In addition to that, you have made several personal comments about me--I simply chose to ignore them. That doesn't make them any less offensive, though. Aside from the fact there are ways to approximate smoking even that isn't my argument...

You continually straw-man my position. This is the first sentence of my first post where I made the claim you continually mistake: "1. Conduction often leads to harmful side effects of combustion, such as, smoke inhalation." Similarly, I never claimed that "using conduction vaporizers...

Yes, that's what I thought, too. When I asked Seibo if I could have a bamboo shipped to me to replace the one that broke he said it required specialized assembly given how tightly they engineered the air path. It's not just the length of the bamboo that matters (although I agree that's...

Before I cite additional sources that you'll refuse to read (yet argue about nonetheless), I want to be clear on what you think you're disputing: 1. Being "high" is a social learning response wherein participants link harmful physiological factors with pleasurable social/psychological factors...

That is not a fair or accurate representation of what occurred in this discussion. I stated my credentials, cited a scientific journal article, and summarized that article for the discussants. If discussants want to dispute the claims made in that article then it behooves them to read it. I...

I've been a member of this community for over a decade and this is the first time someone has behaved as you have. Your response to me isn't clever, it isn't cute, and is, in fact, rude so this will be my last response to you. You're wrong and argumentative. You initially claimed the bamboo...

That's not what I wrote--at least, it's certainly not what I intended to be understood from my post so I'll clarify. Smoke inhalation causes a head change and those head changes are often associated with being "high." We can parse that by the dry language of researchers into causal...

Your response doesn't make any sense to me. You're effectively arguing that it's engineered in a specific way and that therefore it could certainly be engineered in a different way--ie, a completely different product. That's a non-sequitur since I'm willing to be there isn't a single person in...

There are two main reasons for this: 1. Conduction often leads to harmful side effects of combustion, such as, smoke inhalation. Smoke inhalation will make one feel "high" purely as a function of CO2 rather than any psychoactive qualities of the smoke itself. That is, if you inhale enough smoke...

When my bamboo broke the after handling/fees total was going to be around $150. I was offered a new unit for $200 instead so I chose that option. I emailed Seibo to ask him whether they could send me a spare bamboo and I'd just put it in myself. He explained they were carefully designed...

Funny enough, you and I responded to one another in a thread back in 2019 and you encouraged me to get a FP as backup to my (then) broken Evo. I ended up buying a new one and just use the old one with the broken bamboo as a full temp cleaning device (xnails and basket burn-off, etc.). Here we...

There doesn't need to be anything esoteric in it to be hindered by the current global chip shortage--even the most basic/common "chips" are in dire shortage right now. I'm not sure whether it points to more or less trouble, but I will say there were significant differences between then and now...

So far it looks like Evo owners are wondering what the main differences are if there are any. Looks awesome for someone without a current Evo, though. Or if I was still in my party years, sharing pieces with groups of people, I would order it without hesitation.

I understand what you're saying. The point I was trying to explain was that if they are anticipating a mid-February delivery then they already have the parts or the parts are already en route. They still need to be assembled here in the US. Unless they are doing final assembly in China, in...

I still have my 2.0 and 3.0 sitting on the shelf of my closet. I haven't used anything other than my Evo for at least five years now. I was just thinking about this blue vapor reality the other day. Is it no longer true that you're doing it right when it's blue and wrong when it's white? Those...