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100% due to my clumsiness... Goodbye THTFKASG!

Fooling around with my new Cloud the last day and a half I must say I'm impressed. The VXL crew made great strides with the unit as a result of the beta test that reflect in the polish of the finished product. Subjectively, this morning at least, I feel like this vape gets me noticeably higher...

Well said and I agree with you about both companies.

^ Learned a lot about VV reading your posts... Thanks!

The SG is *new. The SGW is from beta test. It's upside-down for stability in the photo. I ordered SG in Feb and *took delivery of HT and unit today.

Words escape me (for the moment)...

I appreciate your enthusiastic review of Vivape and note you preordered a VXC. I use a Q and DBV, both whip vapes. The DBV has a longer wand and I need to replace its 2 foot silicone tube every 9 days according to my hygienic standards. The Q's smaller elbow soils the silicone every 6 days and...

I'm only on page 4 but this thread reads like a mystery novel. IMO if it uses a silicone tube it isn't GonG -- period, end of story!

VXL crew got ya covered. :doh:

Bummer!

@ OBG > Thanks for the research @ Mongorian > Sweet! Matrix bub looks like perfect match

^ If you ever get a DI piece you can pair it to the Cloud with a female to female adapter. ;)

Preston from SGW attributes the popularity of male joints not just to oil but because domes are more aesthetically pleasing than slides because they conceal the joint. I have to agree with him on that point.

+1 > Had opportunity to snag Mobi diamond perc and passed. Meh!

I ordered in February but won't take delivery until next week due to a little stretch in the pen. ;) Considering the DBV and Q costs me $2 a week in silicone tubing, the $104 in annual savings makes the VX a real bargain! After beta testing this baby, can't wait to test the gold master! :bigleaf:

You wiped off the, uh... Never mind :smug:

@ johndeere > Don't wanna get too off topic but will mention to hpi when I see him. Keep in mind BM is a glass site and though the rules may seem arbitrary they're in place to protect the site from real and perceived threats.

You're entitled to your opinion. Personally, I think the rules and mods are what makes BM a special site. I see several VHWs were listed this past month. Perhaps you could use that argument with the mods. ;)

Do you know hpi personally? I do and am unaware of any vape bias. Please elaborate?