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http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-YoCan-Magneto-w-AUTHENTIC-YOCAN-STICKER-/322429686800?var=&hash=item4b124e9410:m:meExvvgCnpwB2yg6HEbis-w

I'd love to see a glass mouthpiece, a water pipe adapter that replaces the filling unit, capsule loading system and concentrate capsules. Also a firmware update to bring the heat up time below 20 seconds. On the topic of another unit id love to see the screen moved to the side, and the bowl on...

@Pipes you truly rock!

@Xelatsok how would that work? I don't think there are two different heaters on the alternate? What could change to vary the conduction/convection levels?

So for the battery powered unit which has a little over 10 amps available do you think the 14mm would still be an option? it's super cool that you've been able to find a 6 amp build, but the battery powered option with a super fat click and ability to be charge in use, still seems like the...

@uhranium the vivant alternate can also be found on dhgate for $60. It doesn't come with batteries... But assuming you have 18650s then you'd be all set.

Thank you @Shit Snacks that is just what I was looking for!

Damn. That's high praise @nondarb. I'll definitely check this out

@mourningbell there are some unit on alibaba.

Yes same thing happened to me. The battery is dead.

Thanks @Lookatmeglow. Doesn't seem to be any super cheap units... But the eBay one is definitely a good proce

110$ with puffitup code

Awesome, please Alert me if you find anything! :)

@Lookatmeglow i wasn't able to find many options on eBay or in the states in general... Have you had better luck?

@nondarb how long does this unit take to heat up? How does it do with smaller loads, like 0.05g? Do you use the whip it came with or does it stink too much?

Seems very keurig like indeed! If keurig brought nice coffee to every household than maybe this unit can bring proper vaporization to every household. I am hopeful for refillable pods. Keurig did not initially release refillable coffee pods, but it did not take long before a third party had...

Thank you @VegNVape that clears a lot up for me!

I understand the difference in the two power supplies, but want to learn more specifically about the difference in the two heater configurations, and how this affects the vapor.

@VegNVape so their are small tweaks in the heater. I understand completely the difference in the regulated Zion vs unregulated milaana heater (technique and voltage outputs, etc.). If you were to have both heaters on a regulated power source running at the same voltage how would you describe the...

So a 12amp 12 volt power supply would be equal to the battery option, power wise? And where do these fit in compared to the one directly wired to the car battery?