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I'll check them out, I like my small butane torch and would love to use one that could heat up just as good as propane...

No butane. Not hot enough, or I guess I just don't wanna spend hundreds on a quality one. So I use a $10 torch head on a canister of camping propane. It's the only way to get a nice brushed flame for a proper heat up.

I Believe the Sputnik is the ONLY one and the other was an older model right from enricos hands. The UFO is my daily driver and has changed my Vaping experience. I feel it's a better choice running the torch if you only need a couple sessions a day. No use in waiting 10-15min instead of 2.

Haha I did this ONCE! Never again.... Another reason I love my UFO, just torch it clean! Ya the UFO kit is an "experts" unit. It's for someone who isn't worried about torches and heat and likes a litte adventure. It's never perfect, but it's damn close. I think a lot more people would be...

You CAN use a butane torch, but your not gunna have fun torching that thing for 5 min. The propane gives the option of a huge brushed flame, essential for getting the same results as the Apollo heater.

Just to let you know, I use the keychain kit only. Amazing device. Does flowers and oils. Better for 1-2people rather then groups. Just need a plumbers torch and it works amazing. PM me if you have questions, cuz I'm sure I've said enough in this thread already. Haha

4.5 oz !!!

Yep I love this too. I can do this with my enano, but that high is way too sleepy, the sub extracts without giving me that super sleepy high. ( unless I choke down a half gram in a session, even a quarter gram will do it) My sessions are a little lighter tho, I tend to only do 2-3 hits that are...

Really bad ones........I hope they do a better job with the new models......glad I just have my UFO, keeps me happy and I recently had a 6 person session off it. So much torching it was almost too much. That's when the electric version would come in handy...

Except with the sub the bottle neck is the same...and the sub doesn't fit into an 18-14 adapter too well, not tall enough. Just an observation after having the sub for a while. Edit: I just re read this and I think we are saying the same thing hahahahahah, we at both saying 18 is better and to...

The best thing is to keep it at 14mm and get a 14-18 adapter if you want to use with a 18mm piece. Really they shouldn't even sell the 18mm IMO

Try dialing down to just under 50%, you can hammer on the button for 30 seconds and no combustion will occur.

Iolite, used to hook it up through a makeshift bong, I actually owned 2 of these through out the years. Used my iolite for the drive up to the mountain in the morning.

Still rockin the m102 over here:myday:

UFO sessions all night tonight, with tastey tastey suds and ps3 goin all night, me and my buddy are on our way to a good Friday. I've been trying to only use my sub for my end of the day sessions so it can be a nice treat, but today will be an exception:tup::D

Looks to be really improved.....and also maybe able to screw apart???? Looking really good anyways, I wanna see he price tho....

Ya I gotta say, nothing beats my mflb, pa 2.0 at 45% through a mini tube. Zero combustion risk and milky ass hits. Nothing better when I'm hanging at home relaxing.

I actually just got a PA 2.0 for my mflb that I NEVER use. Now it's all I use during the day, gives me the best "day" high I find.

Will defiantly be lookin into these when my mini VVPS craps out! Thanks for joinin FC, VK!

Thanks for my package nice and quick PV! You guys blow amazing adapters! Got a 14-18 f-f and it looks amazing on my pieces. Thanks again for the chips!