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I agree with vtac. I prefer a white logo that doesn't stand out.

I'm surprised that you've found the PD to be more efficient, even with low grade. I had assumed that because the PD wasn't made with low quality in mind, the VHW would be more efficient with its variable temperature. Considering SHED7 is low on money, it's probably best for him to go with the...

Stonemonkey55, do you believe that the PD is more efficient than the VHW? Even with Schwag?

Thank you, that clears up the issue with the creation of vapor. I'm still not sure about what I would need to buy. If I want to use the VS as a water pipe, do I need to buy a waterpipe and a diffuser, or just a diffuser?

I'm sure it does, I just wanted to check to make sure that it works when filled with water. If it didn't, I was going to go with the VaporGenie, for the sturdiness of wood. Also, stickstones, you're right, I am new to vaporizers, the only one I've owned was an ubie. The Vaporstar looks...

The pipe in that video isn't filled with water. Maybe the vaporstar works with bongs, as long as they aren't filled with water? The manufacturer doesn't say that anywhere though, so I'm sure I'm just missing something.

With a normal bong, the user only breaths in something that has risen passed the water. The vaporstar looks like it requires the air suckage to reach under the water to draw the heat into the herb. Once the vapor has been created the Vapor rises through the water like a normal bong. I'm not...

I'm talking about before the vapor has been created. The Vaporstar requires the use of lung power to create the vapor by drawing hot air through the herb. A normal bong doesn't require lung power to create the smoke, it just lights the plant on fire. I'm sure the vaporstar works with water...

How does the Vapestar work when used with a bong? The vapestar requires the lung power of the user to pull hot air through the herb. Wouldn't the presence of water prevent the lung power from reaching the herb?