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Then we agree there needs to be better training nationwide, thats a start. But I disagree about the wild bill analogy. That sounds more like rhetoric to me. We hear about these cases far less than we ought to, but they still in no way make up the majority of police incidents. "These guys" as...

7 billion people cannot exist in a utopia where we all get along, exchange goods and services, and live in harmony. This is not possible. There are bad people, it's just that simple. We need police officers.

You beat me to it Rude Boy, we would revert back to the dark ages. @SSVUN~YAH I have compassion, I also believe in common sense. Edit* We have to learn to not be a rebel just for the sake of being a rebel. A rebel without a cause is a criminal.

@invertedisdead There are definitely times when Police Departments around the country use excessive force, and there are wrongful death shootings. However, the number of these tragic incidents are far less than the number of dangerous situations that Police Departments around the country...

What does the link or RWA have to do with this discussion? The link seems to provide this professor's long term opinion on politics and authority. It is self published, and self funded. It is in no way is fact however.

@Been Vapin Can you elaborate on what all the links mean? *Edit* Are they links to live feeds of protests?

I am originally from the Bahamas(As you may know a former British colony). They had a similar policy for a long time and it worked for them. That was until their officer were violently being confronted every day with illegal firearms flowing in from the US. At that point the Bahamian...

That is true @grokit but it is not realistic to ask a officer who has to respond to dangerous events to only have rubber bullets at his disposal. The easier thing is for citizens to comply with commands from the officer who is only doing the job we pay him to do. *EDIT* I also want to add...

I'm not positive but I think they consider rubber bullets a step up in escalation. That would probably come after tear gas and flash bangs but before live ammunition. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I've always thought rubber bullets or sandbags were more dangerous than tear gas...

I think using tear gas to disperse a crowd turning violent is a pretty appropriate response. Non-lethal. What would have been a good alternative? Allow more stores to be looted and burned?

That is very speculative. Also, why would you fire at Police? Wouldn't their response then be a retaliation to violent action?

There is no denying that minorities are harassed in larger number, I'm not sure anyone would argue that fact. Knowing that you are a target though, I never understood why some people go out of their way to make themselves a target to be harassed.

@Been Vapin As a young black male so have I, believe me. But the way you respond to an encounter with authorities can be the difference. At the very least complying may be a good idea.

I think there is a big difference between the two examples above. One seems a bit more rational than the next IMO.

To avoid blowing material back into the heater cover, load your material into a vapexhale ELB and drop the ELB into the top of the wand. The ELB will help heat the load evenly as well because it restricts the air path.

I think this thread is actually starting to head in the right direction. As a member of the black community I think we're stating to have the conversation that really needs to be had. The problem is every time someone starts that conversation they're called a racist. Edit* Or given backlash...

Thought you guys would like this video I go in to pick up my Wave Rider SSV tomorrow. Can't wait :rockon:

Thank you for pointing that out z9. I hadn't even noticed that on their website.

I use concentrates sandwiched between flower in both the Cloud and UD but like you said, it's not an ideal fit. Get's the job done, but I would like something easier to use. @Puffers If you don't mind me asking, is there a specific reason you never got the oil kit for the SSV?

I am thinking about putting my torch on the shelf and getting a desktop vape just for concentrates (Being able to use as a backup flower vape would also be a bonus). I have been researching the Cloud EVO, Herbalizer, VB 2, and the SSV, but I'm having a hard time narrowing down my choices. I...