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I agree rude boy I never want to have to use customer service but with ever vape I have owned except the DV I had to use it. I love my tin box and use it daily to keep my vape stuff in.

Chad personally I wouldn't get the xp till the bugs are worked out. I am sticking with my 04 and love but I like the PN better for various reasons. The pax is a herb eater and smells a lot if either of those are issues then don't consider it. I am sure you know the sticking mouth piece issue...

curiousone brought up something that I had forgotten about....waiting till you charge . Using the PA I see how long the solo takes to cool down...hours. How long should we safely wait till we charge after a full session? Toros you could have just put it in the PV thread which is what most of...

Oooooooooooh my friend kush I think you should know by now I can't count or time stuff. This was a really really really hard effort to do this. I had a pencil in the bed and had to make the tic mark as I turned the vape on. I only timed the warm up about three times cause I really do lose track...

It burns off left over resins vito and works way better then iso then you iso afterwards. At least that is my reason.

Mine was the original and they didn't put serial numbers on them yet. If yours doesn't have one it is either really old or they stopped putting them on again.

I like low temp so I use it at about 12 or 1...a lot of people use it at 3 but you have to draw way faster. I like a slow draw and I barely get the whistle sound that you do want. when I got it I did it at 11 with a slow draw and really short hits or it would be to huge. I can now go to 12 or...

Ah ok so now you are ready to learn. Play with the knob temp vs your draw speed and length of draw. You will get it now. You don't need to turn it up high. You have to find the balance of the three things.

They never specified but they did mention that the xp gets hotter. I have done it a lot with no issues. I am not sure I will or won't do it again considering what pharmacor said.

Sam, vaping is very different and with effects as well. There is a thread I believe in the vapor lounge. I suppose some of the stuff that is no good for us worked on the spasms way better and faster almost instant. vaping is not instant to say the least and you do have to warm up your vape as...

Yea but you wouldn't have known that unless you did read the thread and happen to hit on it. Look at my post to see what I added.

See now that is your problem. It should be at 6:35 when off. Brain dead lately...pull the knob off and reposition it. One more time...even at 9 if you had turned it all the way up you still should have gotten good hits but one thing at a time.

From what I recall cause mine is not out now...it turns orange from bottom up cause that is where the heater is. The higher the heat the more orange it will get going upwards. Where is your knob when it is off? So yes white at the tip is fine.

Well then I suppose we need more info to see what you might be doing wrong cause it sounds like everything is working. A video maybe might help or if pics can show the heating element when it is glowing and the pics of how it is connecting. Maybe it isn't connecting as good as you think.

You are suppose to keep going for the sake of:science:

Show us pics of the heating element and the wand so we can see if they are a match and what and if you are doing something wrong. You can always get another cover or wand if they are different. Maybe one is for standard and other for spherical :shrug:

I do if I remember how close I am. Sometimes it is hard cause I need two hands to drive...hand controls. So unless I hit a light for long enough and remember it is hard. Even at a light I only have one hand cause other is on the break. It takes magic tricks sometimes to drive with your hands.

I PM'd him but will do a full charge and see over the next few days what happens but when it comes to batteries and circuit boards as far as I was always able to tell you were one of the guys that knew what you were talking about. Maybe I should ask pipes or haywood. If you speak to them cause...

That is what I wanted to know thanks Joe. Considering they rubber stamped it...PM being sent now.

That was my guess as well chill but I got 70 mins three in a row before the wrong charger. I was wondering if it maybe really takes 6 hours to fully charge. You know I will try it over the next few days for science:science: of course and to show sticks how anal I really am.