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Hmmmmm.....this or the crafty?

This looks similar to the sidecar that Vapexhale has.

Am I still the only one who thinks this is very overpriced?

This is some great advice. Thanks, I have been looking for one for a while and can't seem to commit. I think I am having a hard time with pricing. Glass prices are just insane as of late.

I am very tempted as well. Anyone?

That is badass but wow, that is probably over $1500 worth of shit. I wish I could afford the Sub. It seems like you need so many damn add ons, it's not worth it.

I have done this at a friends house and we used clippings. We were also heavily dosed on mushrooms. Good times.

Im confused. I don't see you quoting what he wrote and explaining the same rules to him. I react and I get called out? Is this real life?

I noticed it got to one point and kinda stopped. But that made me wonder if it was leaking on the bamboo.

You answered my next question! The nail seems almost impossible to clean. I am assuming taking a torch to it is a horrible idea.

I think you don't understand what I said. By "crappy product", I meant the vapor. I know it works better than most vapes but to think the vapor that it puts out tastes as good as glass only vapor is ridiculous. And yes, I have used it many times. It works amazing but the bag and plastic tube is...

^^ is the above how everyone cleans it? I haven't noticed my bamboo getting dirty but it is inevitable. I have to buy another nail for friends to use, it takes a while for that bad boy to cool down.

Just got my nail last week. Holy cow! This thing is amazing and RIPS huge. Sucks you can't turn it upside down but gives me more incentive to buy a new hydratube.

I have, am I suppose to be surprised with something that may have awesome guts but puts out a crappy product? I guess I care more about the quality of the vapor than how that vapor is produced. Just because you can dial it in to different temps, doesn't mean its groundbreaking. The year is...

I guess after how amazing the cloud has been you would think they would want to go after something similar. Plastic will always=cheap and bad taste because it is true. I really don't get where they think this thing is worth $800. So this is a new volcano that mated with a vapor bros? I don't...

This is what I mean, if I am paying almost $800 I don't want to have to this kind of thing. I thought we moved passed the whip/bag era. Who likes that taste?

I have been really thinking of getting this thing but man, the no glass on glass thing is a huge dealbreaker.

I have been wanting to pull the trigger but something keeps holding me back. Maybe the aesthetics? I don't know.

Just ordered my nail and getting some new concentrates this weekend from Denver!

I sandwhich wax all the time, I just make sure to crumble it very well. I have no idea how people are getting black ABV, I have rocked it at 4pm plenty times and it stays brown even then.