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I wouldn't be surprised if the company folded and a new Liger under a new name came out and shipped from another state. Something isn't right with his camp.

Well said. We should NOT stand for how they treat people. This forum tends to protect the vendors not the customers. It's time this company was held accountable. Staff should have a sticky at the top of this thread warning people of all the issues so they know. BUYER BEWARE with this company...

The SH has me constantly forgetting I have dabs. :lol: One full bowl at 850 has stronger effects than a dab imo.

Maybe someday. For now I think the best we can do is educate LHS in your area. It's a common theme in this thread/forum of head shop owners NOT being aware of this device let alone having tried it. I really think this vape is incredible. I see it being the standard for desktop vapes in the next...

I've always been fascinated by his lack of knowledge when it comes to current tech. I just took it as a hash master who is simply too busy to keep up with the scene. But now that he keeps putting his name on devices I'm starting to "WTF" in my head a lot. That Mr Hot Box site has no info really...

It makes a big difference. You should notice a difference after an overnight soak.

Full bowl. Just did a 3/4 full bowl and that was nice. Better flavor.

Whew...the 800s are mighty heavy... 825 was slightly better than 800. Not really enough to justify switching to it. 850 on the other hand was amazing. Heavy hitter, not for the weak. But so worth it. :D

@NewVape420 what about quartz bowls? After a recent issue with another vape it has crossed my mind that a quartz version of the existing Ti bowl (post OG pre adjustable) would be great. More durable than boro. What do you think?

How do you know it's at 600 if you turned the PID off once it got to 700?

I keep a container with 50/50 ISO/Dark Crystal Cleaner on hand for my soaks. The Dark Crystal stuff is worth getting IMO. It makes a big difference. Just rinse the insert with water and dry it off. Good to go. :D

800 is a blast! I'm going to play around with 825 tonight. Trying to replicate the effects the Elev8r gives at high temps.

Just did two double deckers in a row and am very impressed. Really good flavor from both the flower and oil. Very nice balance actually. It took a little longer to build up vapor but I'm assuming that's due to the stone/oil heating. Once it gets going the vapor is really nice and milky...

Those might work. Dish towel will burn. I just worry it will be prone to break if I try to remove it while hot. Maybe @7thFloorVapes can chime in.

@7thFloorVapes reached out Friday to make sure CS had taken care of my issue. They also made me aware they ARE working on quartz heaters. That makes me very very happy. :tup: I want to thank @7thFloorVapes and their CS reps for reaching out and getting me fixed up. I really DO see lots of...

I have a feeling it's a connection issue. I will play around with it tonight and report back.

A half bowl will work, but I prefer a full bowl of fine grind. Start with a medium draw and ramp it up the abv will be dark but not black. Start with a slower draw and ramp it up the abv will be black, but the effects will ring your ears. Very reminiscent of combustion effects. Head rush can...

I got my unit in over the weekend and got around to using it yesterday. First impression is the taste was amazing and this is a really cool device Matt has created. Just looking at it you can tell you are holding the latest in tech. Just such a far out design. Def not suited for public...

Spent most of the weekend at 800 doing fine grind. With the right draw speed I was able to still get some tasty rips. The effects are quite heavy. Like free basing weed lol :rolleyes:. A full bowl can ring your ears :haw: I still prefer 700 and 585 most days but 800 get used daily now. :science:

The thread is full of cracked heaters. Not even mine. It's a bad entry point when the kit isn't very high quality. You get what you pay for as they say.