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I would but I value time to much! :lol:

Email from them about the liv Thank you for contacting Atmos! In regards to your concerns, none of our units have an airflow that would pass through any electrical components or wires. The Liv model is primarily for a waxy essence, but can also be used for a dry herb. Please tell us what type...

Well i'll be sure to tell you how it is if you aren't one if they do(Was number 44 or something...).

Cotton taste terrible for me....ughh so bad.

We can only hope for the best, I can wait, but oh do I want it now haha... Idk 2014 still seems likely to me....maybe I am wrong though.

"Evoke’s induction heating vs all portable vaporizers" is what put me off I guess. Are they really still that bad though?

Probably should be reworded, I don't know much about e-cigs but do they all really do what that says, I mean would that not make them all toxic? Like everyone on the market....?

Was reading through your indigogo page, whats up with this? Evoke’s induction heating vs all portable vaporizers I mean by all means say good thing about your Vaporizer, hype it up, etc.... Are you telling me and us that all the portables that we use daily put out burning Fiberglass and...

Personally as long as all the materials sourced are safe and up to standards I don't mind beta testing, reason being that this has a lifetime warranty according to them(If they follow through)...so if anything messes up I am guessing that covered, would be cool if they did an upgrade thing to...

To be fair it came off a little bit trollish(Not saying he was), at least I can see why he thought that, personally I think the updates seem steady enough, I mean some projects leave people totally in the dark, this one seems to be going ok, smooth but slow at this point, just an opinion after...

Sounds like it going smooth now, thats good.

Why not both? Get a decent priced pen for liquids since from what I recall they are not that expensive and a MFLB like you wanted for herb?

It's alright I didn't mean to be, tried to come off as confused more so, well yeah I know the Raw and the other pens they make are bad but companies have went from bad to good in the past. I also thought they just stole the Flowermates design, like a rebranding. People are gonna be mad at them...

See to me it looked like a re branding of the Flowermate with a couple tweaks, not sure why I got attitude for thinking that(Or at least it seemed that way to me), thanks for explaining it to me llamaman.

What....? How does that make sense? Based on this thread that makes no sense, we can't really compare it to the pens... Also I said I was messaging them, not buying one.

I kinda like the Atmos ones looks better with the metal mouth piece and usb charger, wonder if the internals are any different...? Gonna shoot them a message.

I can see that I guess....might as well get a Vapor Genie at that point though....but that involves lighters and I am guessing some are not a fan.

This is my new favorite thread, so enlightening. Not before me....

So we can turn it into a rocket ship and fly away from earth, maybe to earth 2.0, where everything is wonderful! But I really hope it does, I thought that some vapes already had 2-3 hour battery life?

Yeah....not sure I would put any product made by Apple near my face, even if its a .001 percent chance it will explode. I would trust these 20 year old guys before anyone involved with Apple.