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damn, good to know :/

If I ordered a bender, it would come with the hammer rod, but I would have to order the hammer top seperately?

lol I use the protank2 for e-liquid, but I'd feel pretty cool lighting people's cigarettes at school. Either way, the rod seems like a huge plus to me.

they have the hammer top, but they are out of the ceramic rods, that I could light bowls or cigarettes with. It says they will have more later this year. I can't buy a hammer top without the ceramic rod, because when they finally release them, I'll kill myself.

How long until you release the ceramic rod with the hammer top again!? Pleasseee

Will anything else be available for pre-order before july 1st, when the preorders for the 8 stop? Maybe the triton, or iris, or vection, or duction? :o drool I was hoping to order as much as I can at once. I was also wonder what the deal is with the new e-juice m4 tanks? are they superior to...

They have cheaper, load as you go carts as well but to each their own. I love my persei for concentrates. It seems like it hits harder and tastes better than any torch setup. well, im going to try some wax in my herbier once I get my bowl cleaned lol I'm willing to bet it conserves, and tastes...

thank you guys.

yes. Was I not supposed to do that?

Wait, you have a persei, and you aren't impressed by it for dabs at all? I don't like it for herb too much, but paired with the hercules, when you can throw a half gram, to a gram of wax in it and just blow huge clouds for days, I love it. I use my herbie at home, and my persei on the go

I'm not completely certain; I don't think so. All I know is the pad is still a bit wet, and has a very stong odor; and the taste of my vapor is effected greatly. I think it's starting to give me a headache :o

I feel like I have ruined my herbie by putting too much defunk on the oil pad for aromatherapy, because my bowls taste unbearably orangey, and I can't get the bowl clean

I'm thinking that if the isis doesn't work with the shorty battery, I'll adapt an ss kit with a regular button to be a lighter with the ceramic heating rod, with an option to run the hercules, or the triton; and I'll have my classic case running my ejuice, with 2 new short batteries, and an...

Are you affiliated with W9 tech? How do you know about the new isis? I'm praying they make it run with a single battery. Would the bender or the ceramic heating rod that should come with the hammer work with any of the other tops, like the classic, or the isis?

That's a That's a shame. What's the purpose of using an isis with a core? Isn't that kind of redundant? I wanted to use an isis with an ss kit to adjust the flavor of my ejuice.

Is the new Isis coming out soon? Will it work on vv lower than 3.7 v? Will I need to use it with the double stacked batteries? Is the Triton coming out soon? When will new ceramic rods for the hammer top be available? ... does the persei bubbler work with the bender? Would it work with a...

At home- Herbalizer; Portable- Persei, hercules, and the core in my car

Have owned-knock off magic flight; knock off volcano; pax ploom

Have owned-knock off magic flight

You're the best! I was wondering which tank is better for my e-liquid? The up tech protank2, or this new mt4 tank? I'm also wonder what the benfits of this new mechanical top, or the 8? Once the iris and new hammer top are available, I'm going to buy an ss kit, a black rod for the hercules...