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Found that Energizer 15 minute charger at Office Depot. Their website shows availability in local stores which is very nice and probably saved me a trip; I bought the last one at mine. According to the docs, it charges 2450 mAh in 18 minutes and 1700 in mAh in 13, w/the 2200 and 2000 both at 15...

max, I think everyone is concerned w/the date/time when pds will actually go on sale, not all the other logistics (though interesting too). Once VapeNow receives the shipment, they decide when they update the website - getting a heads up on that would be insightful, even it is an hour's notice...

Awhile back I bought a Vapor Genie knock off in Venice Beach that works off the concept of a pumice stone or volcanic rock. They have become really popular here in LA. However, once I got home and had 1 drag, I did some R&D and stopped using it. It's obvious they just drop all the parts in vats...

I don't care if you run your rig using a flame thrower - I just prefer vapes that are easy to deal with. Whatever gets you there, right? I do get the feeling that I need to come over to some of your houses and get some schooling on what medicating is really all about. :D I'm good w/other topics...

Progress, 1st, I won't accuse you for shilling, or having any interest in the company that produces the IO, right? Me, neither, I don't and won't work for any vape company. So we are just laying out the facts. I say "nasty gases" and "butane sucks" 1st, because of availability. I can find power...

max, that is the most awesome news I've heard on this topic in awhile! That is far more fair. Thanks for getting the confirmation! stickstones, I would appreciate it, if, next time, if possible, bitching pages could be moved to a new thread, maybe in a different discussion area - I thought...

That may be so, but it needs to be factored into the cost of the upkeep on the unit. No butane=no meds just like for the electronic vapes, no power=no meds. I would much rather try to find and deal w/AAs all day long than nasty gases. Of course kc's "GonG 'Vapor Globe'" uses diesel - so I guess...

Ahhh. Then I did do it right and I think you may have something there. It pulls the material closer to the screen by sucking air on the pinhole. Then, when you draw through the large air outtake on the side - the chamber is vapor filled. I'll have to practice this and report back. ;) The IO is...

Ok - somehow I thought we were talking about the air intake from the bottom. I tried pulling vapor from the bottom w/my head tilted and the box above me (felt like an idiot) - I did get real vapor but it just felt like a tiny amount through a pinhole. Going native through the front does make...

I would LOVE to try this! My 1 concern w/your rig is there is no dead man's switch. I'd likely blaze the whole place one night on a a few drops of oil that made me go blotto. :D

Shit, dude, I'll try it in a few minutes! :cool:

congrads kc - welcome to the club! :D Hey No Smoke, I think MF is trying to give you a free, 1-time only upgrade so take it and STFU! ;) Seriously, tho, I do hope you email them and arrange for that - at least that was my take on it. I also agree w/MF that you need to know what you are getting...

2tiki, the Launch Tube (LT) is not a prototype, it is a shipping product. It sounds like NoSmoke is just bitter. The LT works fine for me but I find that the LB, which takes larger amounts, to be more functional.

http://www.blisssville.com/index.php?cPath=58 Tell em' duh from FC sent ya!

Thanks for the excellent Launch Box, Magic-flight! Like I said before, I feel fortune to have gone this route. My LT is now going to stay at my office as a backup unit in case I'm stuck there after hours and have forgotten my LB. :D

Welcome, 2tiki! I can't speak for MF, but I imagine the production LB will ship close to what the beta group received. I have never heard of a vape getting upgraded before. Some FC'ers (no doubt some of them LT customers like me) were fortunate enough to be chosen as beta testers, but I don't...

Cool, I was headed to Radio Shack anyway. It also just occurred to me to try Fry's Electronics - they probably have 5 knock-off brands too. :P

For me, portability is key. Then stealth. Dragging my E around sucks. I see those energizers, they :cool:. Now where in LA can I get them? I figure, if it isn't w/in 15 miles of here, it probably doesn't exist.

Hey, once PDs do start selling again, can we please start a new thread? I'm sure Max and a lot of other ppl would be happy to not flood this one w/more me toos. It is bad enough everyone is signing off w/"I'm hitting refresh all day.". BTW: So am I. :lol: The 1st person to place their order...

Yea, where do you get those? I swung by Home Depot last night but didn't see any quick chargers - just 8 hour ones. I still think there is a place for a permanent AA from the wall tho.