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FROLIC by Limelight Herb
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Kaptan
Well-Known Member
Hello Dejan, have you considered changing the AFC so that it has distinct clicks that allow the mouthpiece to stay in the intended position instead of being easily swiveled out of place?
Zero_Combustions
Active Member
I would also say the white dot is the better of the two.
Still absolutely loving this vape. Haven’t reached for my TB2 or Dani Fusion since owing the Frolic. Outstanding.
Still absolutely loving this vape. Haven’t reached for my TB2 or Dani Fusion since owing the Frolic. Outstanding.
Is the dot on the pointer an option?
White dot looks better, but the pointer is better for verifying in the dark. For the concerns of the AFC moving, I noticed that too. My recommendation is a thicker oring or less lubrication there so that it's much harder to turn and stays in place by friction.
I wonder if this might be related to your complaints, @Orvaxxx , and I wanted to add to and answer @Numerous_Nothing . While I was getting fantastic flavor and vapor at 422F, I noticed that I was missing the effects of full extraction. I can tell when a device isn't fully extracting or getting hot enough, because I tend to feel awful.
While temperature readings vary wildly between different models, 422F seemed on the higher end and I didn't want to combust. Finally I bit the bullet and cranked the frolic up to 455F, and it started giving the wonderful full extraction I was looking for. There is no hot spotting or black bits at this temp, and I bet I could go higher without issue.
Since I'm always taking an on demand rip from a fully cold frolic, it's possible I need a lot higher heat setting to bring things into the goldilocks zone before I'm done with my draw.
In short;
I wonder if this might be related to your complaints, @Orvaxxx , and I wanted to add to and answer @Numerous_Nothing . While I was getting fantastic flavor and vapor at 422F, I noticed that I was missing the effects of full extraction. I can tell when a device isn't fully extracting or getting hot enough, because I tend to feel awful.
While temperature readings vary wildly between different models, 422F seemed on the higher end and I didn't want to combust. Finally I bit the bullet and cranked the frolic up to 455F, and it started giving the wonderful full extraction I was looking for. There is no hot spotting or black bits at this temp, and I bet I could go higher without issue.
Since I'm always taking an on demand rip from a fully cold frolic, it's possible I need a lot higher heat setting to bring things into the goldilocks zone before I'm done with my draw.
In short;
Interesting, why is the initial heat up time difference of a few seconds important?
This initial heat up time is not related to the mass or power of the heater but rather to the oven mass which helps bring down the heat up times in demand mode in use actually. The power of the heater is not capped by the power of the battery. The temp difference might tire out the 50B faster in a battery pack but this is negligible in our configuration. But can't hurt to test, although this can only be tested over time...
Yes, been doing this for years, the laser changes the structure of the plastic, there is no removing this thing. The same was done with the PEEK CU only with a different frequency.While I think the laser polymerized dot is (), I think it looks better. On the other hand, the machined pointer might make it easier/possible to check the setting without looking. Might even be possible to *change* the setting without looking. Question is: how important is that? In my slight preference for the white dot, I am assuming that laser polymerizing would make sure that the dot stays visible forever.
Ssssshhhhh, you will upset the voices!
Small moving parts, magnets, etc. are out of the question here considering what these parts go through in usage and cleaning, but where there's a will, there's a way.
O-ring spare setThe white dot looks better.
And mine is shipped, very fast actions
I hope we get the official capsules soon. Or some kind of bowl reducer, and maybe a filling tool.
Mesh disk spare set
Direct oven to WP adapter
Frolic tip to 510 tip adapter
Dosing capsules
Oven reducer
Good point.
This was the idea with the tolerances but yes, depends on lubing and how perpendicular to the mod you are holding the tip, etc.White dot looks better, but the pointer is better for verifying in the dark. For the concerns of the AFC moving, I noticed that too. My recommendation is a thicker oring or less lubrication there so that it's much harder to turn and stays in place by friction.
I wonder if this might be related to your complaints, @Orvaxxx , and I wanted to add to and answer @Numerous_Nothing . While I was getting fantastic flavor and vapor at 422F, I noticed that I was missing the effects of full extraction. I can tell when a device isn't fully extracting or getting hot enough, because I tend to feel awful.
While temperature readings vary wildly between different models, 422F seemed on the higher end and I didn't want to combust. Finally I bit the bullet and cranked the frolic up to 455F, and it started giving the wonderful full extraction I was looking for. There is no hot spotting or black bits at this temp, and I bet I could go higher without issue.
Since I'm always taking an on demand rip from a fully cold frolic, it's possible I need a lot higher heat setting to bring things into the goldilocks zone before I'm done with my draw.
In short;
I will try to sort this out.
This, or waiting for a few more seconds before the first draw should address this.
2tiki
Well-Known Member
I think we are all disappointed in your review. LOL
I'll give a specific reason though. This is a you problem. You got your hopes up, and the vape having no idea how big your hopes were, didn't live up to your hopes. I don't even own one, so I have no skin in the game, but am very into logic. So I felt the need to point it out. Your first mention that you were disappointed with zero explanation almost makes it seem like you want people not to buy the vape. So strange.
I tend to get my hopes up as well, but I don't publicly admonish anything for not living up to my expectations. Only if a company makes false claims is it there fault.
I've never seen a vape so nitpicked at as this one. I'm sure it has a lot to do with a certain vape by another company very much upsetting people, so we all have our "scam radar" at high alert. Dejan has been more attentive to this community than I've ever seen. Writing vague, negative reviews of it seems very unfair after all the work he's done to take our opinions into mind and put some of those into action.
But even if he hadn't, vague or flippant reviews don't help anyone. It is important for us to know if there is anything bad about the vape, but not living up to one person's overblown (and unlisted) expectations and VAS, isn't a valid reason for concern.
Orvaxxx
Well-Known Member
I didn’t make a review and you’re right it’s a me thing.
But why would I have to be specific on what I don’t like, I am not a vape reviewer just a vape enthusiast.
Petetbay
Well-Known Member
I saw your post, thought "hey, I ordered 3 hours before Drsoapp" and went to check my mail. Bingo, mine is also on the way (EU warehouse). Can't wait ...
This is mainly curiosity for me as I don't have a full understanding of how the power is delivered and everything that goes into it.
For clarity, 8 seconds is not a problem at all for me but I saw at least one person mention that even though it's just a few seconds more than the TM2 it was noticeable to them. I doubt I will care, especially considering I dont own and have never used a TM2.
The main thing is if I am getting batteries I'll have those to use for a year or two and won't be getting replacements any time soon, so I want to try to get the best option possible.
It's actually a few seconds less than the TM2 IMO, but it's a few seconds and heat up times for either device depend on a number of factors. What Dejan is saying is that battery type matters less because this isn't a direct drive device. The frolic has a buck/boost circuit, probably, that handles power output. If it didn't, and the heat was entirely dependent on battery voltage, then voltage drop under load would have a huge effect on heat up times and your battery choice would be critical.
Sativapo
Well-Known Member
Maybe because it's a discussion forum and we try to discuss together. You cant just tell a friend " I don't really like my new car" and add nothing without making him curious. Especially if he ordered the same car.
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TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
I'd be interested if there are advantages to the 50PL
I'm not sure what you're saying here. The "longest" heat times I'm seeing from cold are 5sec. Subsequent hits are <2sec.
TheUniBowler
Member
I’ve been using my Frolic for a almost a week now and it has lived up to the standards set by Dejan and the rest of limelight
I have a few battery vapes, IE the solo 3 TM2 PH, and a few BakX
The tm2 and SnB products are what are most compared to so I’ll start with the TM2 as I have experience with it
Flavor is a little better on the TM2 due to the glass stems having no impact on taste at all, however I don’t find my frolic to have muffled taste and it is still very tasty at high temps. Plus the frolic has glass stem compatibility coming so I’m sure that will help
Heat up time is something for me that isn’t very important as both are very quick. What I will say about it is that the TM2 may hit the vibrate threshold before the frolic does but I do not believe it matters as the first hits on my frolic are less wispy than the first hit can be on a TM it feels like the threshold for heat just may be lower on the TM
While battery life itself doesn’t matter to much since the batteries are easily interchangeable the lifespan feels better on my frolic and I won’t have to carry around as many batteries
The vapor production is much higher on the frolic, it has me thinking there may be something wrong with my TM2s heater even because the clouds aren’t similar
Portability the TM2 is smaller so more pocketable however a big thing on portability is the whole kit not just the device. The mouth piece can stay attached and take no space, I can carry less batteries, so it feels like it has the edge for me on it being the daily carry vape
Overall the frolic hasn’t let me down yet, I will say my girlfriend and I have had different experiences but I think she is drawing wrong because convection vapes do have more variability in how you can hit them,
I have no real downsides to the frolic experience yet, I don’t need dosing capsules as they can impact the performance slightly, I love the ridged edges I feel like there is no way it drops out of my hands, both on demand and session mode heat quickly and I’ve never had the device feel to hot for my hand. Also feels very nice native and through glass, easily white walling my pieces.
Needless to say I’m excited for the future of this device and of limelight’s herb experience all around. I was a little hesitant after hearing that they actually don’t consume much herb like a lot of other makers in this field do, however that is no longer a worry for me.
As long as the device doesn’t explode as I’m hitting it I don’t see it getting replaced for my daytime vaping any time soon.
I actually forgot one downside as I was re reading this before posting. I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong and it ultimately is a small gripe if anything, but with my 18mm WPA I find that when pulling the frolic back out, it often detaches the mouthpiece and leaves it in the glass. I don’t even know if downside is the right word. Just the only somewhat annoying thing that I’ve had so far in my use and it only takes a half second to fix anyways.
To anyone without the frolic and on the edge I’d take the chance, I believe the 2 week return window is still open and I feel that’s worth it enough to try and make your own opinions on the device
Sorry for the long message aswell, I just wanted to give my thoughts so far and I’m happy to answer any questions and go in more detail if needed.
I have a few battery vapes, IE the solo 3 TM2 PH, and a few BakX
The tm2 and SnB products are what are most compared to so I’ll start with the TM2 as I have experience with it
Flavor is a little better on the TM2 due to the glass stems having no impact on taste at all, however I don’t find my frolic to have muffled taste and it is still very tasty at high temps. Plus the frolic has glass stem compatibility coming so I’m sure that will help
Heat up time is something for me that isn’t very important as both are very quick. What I will say about it is that the TM2 may hit the vibrate threshold before the frolic does but I do not believe it matters as the first hits on my frolic are less wispy than the first hit can be on a TM it feels like the threshold for heat just may be lower on the TM
While battery life itself doesn’t matter to much since the batteries are easily interchangeable the lifespan feels better on my frolic and I won’t have to carry around as many batteries
The vapor production is much higher on the frolic, it has me thinking there may be something wrong with my TM2s heater even because the clouds aren’t similar
Portability the TM2 is smaller so more pocketable however a big thing on portability is the whole kit not just the device. The mouth piece can stay attached and take no space, I can carry less batteries, so it feels like it has the edge for me on it being the daily carry vape
Overall the frolic hasn’t let me down yet, I will say my girlfriend and I have had different experiences but I think she is drawing wrong because convection vapes do have more variability in how you can hit them,
I have no real downsides to the frolic experience yet, I don’t need dosing capsules as they can impact the performance slightly, I love the ridged edges I feel like there is no way it drops out of my hands, both on demand and session mode heat quickly and I’ve never had the device feel to hot for my hand. Also feels very nice native and through glass, easily white walling my pieces.
Needless to say I’m excited for the future of this device and of limelight’s herb experience all around. I was a little hesitant after hearing that they actually don’t consume much herb like a lot of other makers in this field do, however that is no longer a worry for me.
As long as the device doesn’t explode as I’m hitting it I don’t see it getting replaced for my daytime vaping any time soon.
I actually forgot one downside as I was re reading this before posting. I don’t know if I’m doing something wrong and it ultimately is a small gripe if anything, but with my 18mm WPA I find that when pulling the frolic back out, it often detaches the mouthpiece and leaves it in the glass. I don’t even know if downside is the right word. Just the only somewhat annoying thing that I’ve had so far in my use and it only takes a half second to fix anyways.
To anyone without the frolic and on the edge I’d take the chance, I believe the 2 week return window is still open and I feel that’s worth it enough to try and make your own opinions on the device
Sorry for the long message aswell, I just wanted to give my thoughts so far and I’m happy to answer any questions and go in more detail if needed.
A guy on Reddit claims that the Frolic product page has this weird warning:
@Dejan LimelightHerb Is it real? It doesn't inspire much confidence and sounds a bit ridiculous
@Dejan LimelightHerb Is it real? It doesn't inspire much confidence and sounds a bit ridiculous
jbm
Well-Known Member
Dot for me.
SolidAirrr
Well-Known Member
Haven't checked again, but haven't seen that before. I did see it on vgoodiez' site though. Didn't check whether they have it with every battery powered vape. Pretty sure such a warning wouldn't be limited to the Frolic *and seems like standard liability thing though
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