Pukka
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Is it being shipped by ALBATROSS AMERICA? They showed up in my Informed Delivery feed and I can't id what it is ...
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Fiberglass found in Angus Enhanced
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Pukka
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Sorry, being a typical 'merican, just assumed you lived in the US.
seedy53
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America woman i am-- it had just been picked up. that's all shown on tracker
kokolokokolokon
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@Andreaerdna yeah, it is true it is mod job, not mine. But it doesn’t mean i couldn’t tell him he is not being respectful
And it is true I shouldn’t say it doesn’t have fiberglass until i can share first hand images, even if i find it logic they removed it 100%. At the same time i dont see the need to speculate in the negative way either.
By “baseless reassuring statement” you mean the info about the material or the glass fiber being removed?
And it is true I shouldn’t say it doesn’t have fiberglass until i can share first hand images, even if i find it logic they removed it 100%. At the same time i dont see the need to speculate in the negative way either.
By “baseless reassuring statement” you mean the info about the material or the glass fiber being removed?
Andreaerdna
If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
Fool me one logic: melting mouthpiece, fiberglass, china export logo
(I like my Apollo with halogen heating,
I was on the edge with YLL angus before seeing china export logo and the problems with angus first mouthpiece)
The fiberglass being removed on the basis of what YLL said only
I do not share your coolness with regard of sucking very little of fiber glass dust when vaping. but that is a legit position, absolutely not one I would recommend though, and if we were close I would try to change your mind about
Edit: it exists many different fiberglass and even more glass wool, and therefore data valid for home insulation glass wool is not valid for glass wool used in heat protection applications.. I do know very little but enough to not want this shit near me while taking a very long breath
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kokolokokolokon
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Melting mouthpiece problem is resolved time ago.
If i´m not wrong, the China Export logo was on the first batches of the angus v1, but Yll shared the certificate after that. With the enhanced, the guy who started this always used a pre release render to show how the enhanced uses the China Export logo, but the real device shows a Conformité Européenne logo.
Another interesting point about it would be to know what the CE logo means since there are people worried about it:
The CE logo is only mandatory on certain products for which there are EU specifications, and depending on the product, they have to comply with some directives or others (it is not something generic that provides total security. The safety is provided by the directives involved in obtaining the CE). There may be specifications for eliquid vaporizers, but herb vaporizers are usually classified as aromatherapy devices (to avoid being classified as electronic cigarettes). These types of devices usually follow 3 directives, but not necessarily all 3 at the same time: 93/42/EEC, 1223/2009/EC and the 2024/288. The first one is the health directive. As far as I know, to comply with it you have to detail to what ailments or diseases it is directed, besides that in Europe the most you can aspire to talking about something similar to a directive on a cannabis vaporizer is the medical certificate, which only have some S&B products and the Minivap. why do I say this? Because the directives that surely comply on the vaporizers we use is the third directive (on Ambient Air Quality) and on electronic devices with other directives (such as ROHS (2011/65/EU)). There are no specific directives or testing with medical tests, even if they have the CE logo because, if I am not mistaken, it has not yet been full established which directives should apply to DHVs.
Summary: It is good and a must that they have the CE certificate to have a minimum of product safety. But the fact that they get it does not make them 100% safe in case of DHV. It is not a matter of origin, but that it is not yet properly regulated (again, if I am not mistaken).
I understand your point about not inhale fiberglass, but my purpose in sharing information was to make known the results of studies and the consequences. Not to minimize, but not to aggravate in a blunt way, because, while it would be wrong to say that it is harmless, it is also wrong to attribute consequences of other materials, or to use outdated studies, to alarm (not about you).
My recommendation to any user has been to use it with water, or wait for the replacement. At the same time, I recommended them not to get carried away by what they can read on sites like reddit.
seedy53
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Here is the difference on CE logos
www.hqts.com
Differences Between CE (Conformité Européenne) and CE (China Export) - HQTS
When importing products from China, it's crucial to be well-versed in the essential markings and symbols that guarantee safety and compliance. Among
www.hqts.com
Minsc_NBoo
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I have just seen a thread on reddit (r/vaporents) saying POTV do not have the AE listed anymore
I can see the accessories are available, but not the vape itself. There is still a teardown video on the site though, so.....
I can see the accessories are available, but not the vape itself. There is still a teardown video on the site though, so.....
kokolokokolokon
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@Minsc_NBoo so people have forced a store with reputation to join a boycott by launching deplorable accusations.
Vaporents has become very, very toxic with this issue.
Vaporents has become very, very toxic with this issue.
chillAtGVC
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You are not suggesting that it was not toxic before, right?
We seem to the living in The Age of Hate and Rage.
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
I guess it's funny, because they think these defenses are toxic lol many have been claiming FC is complicit in hiding this bad news to protect the company... It's important anyone knows everything from every side if they really care, but I would agree that retailers hiding the potential issues helps no one really, just their own bottom lines...
Minsc_NBoo
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I think a lot of the outrage is justified. I think YLL have handled this poorly
With any potential health issues relating to a vape it's better to err on the side of caution. I don't think people should use the devices until rigorous testing has been done
I wouldn't say that the majority of vaporents are overblowing the issue. One user has done a lot of work compiling a lot of information and with photos of teardowns to back up the criticisms
Flotsam
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/vaporents has become Obsessed with the threads here on Fuck Combustion or so it seems! or even what a MOD might do?
Why did that person delete their post??? LOL can't make this stuff up. it is conspiracy ..................
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Andreaerdna
If God is the answer, then the question is wrong
Why do you use boycott word? Do you know directly from POTV? Otherwise it looks like a choice based on precaution, and what are
is it deplorable to reveal and not to want a very hot glass wool near your mouth when inhaling?
deplorable is the way YLL answered, and the way some still trying to diminish the hazard in order to defend YLL sales
deplorable is comparing glass wool used in home insulation (cold) with another glass wool (still not cleared which one by YLL) heated @more than 200*C near your mouth while you inhale, it is almost like comparing growing a tobacco plant and smoking a cigarette
staying on topics: the fact that glass wool ended up partially in dust without mechanical action indicate that temperature exceeded binder tolerance (there is glass dust and an organic binder in glass wool, the binder is different for each application and it is the one off gassing)
R1ng0
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I still have not had an answer to this do I contact YLL directly I've had no offers or updates offered does anyone know. @YLL can you please contact Me re getting a newer model of the Angus Enhanced Thanks
NorthernHigh420
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lol was a pretty good song lmao
hey y’all new to the site and I joined specifically to get into this conversation. I purchased an Angus Enhanced the first of February from TotheCloudvapestore. I just opened it up (t6 hex if anyone was wondering) and mine is not the loose fiberglass. I’m gonna insert a link at the end of this with photos of mine. As you will see, mine is wrapped in tape. Idk how to feel about that. There’s no visible fiberglass; but no bullshit when I opened it, I did so barehanded without gloves and I swear I’m scratching wrist because it’s burning like I came in contact with fiberglass.
On the other hand, from what I can see, they aren’t lying in saying that the fiberglass isn’t in the direct air path. The way the device works (as far as I can tell), the vent from the bottom goes through a closed cylinder that doesn’t have an easy way for air to pull through from the fiberglass on the outside of the chamber or cylinder below. I would think by how quickly I felt that shit on my wrist a few minutes ago, that I would have felt it on my lips or in my mouth if air was pulling through there.
I’m really on the fence about this. You can see mine has been used pretty extensively and really needs to be cleaned out. There’s weird build up where the chamber meets the cylinder below… maybe fiberglass could get through there?
I heard about all this maybe 2 weeks after I bought it. Since then I hadn’t used it but a couple times and went back to using my Arizer Argo. That is until the 420 sale last month when I picked up an Arizer Solo3 v2. I’ve been using that exclusively. It’s not a ball vape though and the flavor profile is undeniably different. I like them both and am really bummed thinking my best option is probably not using it anymore.
Inside of my Angus Enhanced
On the other hand, from what I can see, they aren’t lying in saying that the fiberglass isn’t in the direct air path. The way the device works (as far as I can tell), the vent from the bottom goes through a closed cylinder that doesn’t have an easy way for air to pull through from the fiberglass on the outside of the chamber or cylinder below. I would think by how quickly I felt that shit on my wrist a few minutes ago, that I would have felt it on my lips or in my mouth if air was pulling through there.
I’m really on the fence about this. You can see mine has been used pretty extensively and really needs to be cleaned out. There’s weird build up where the chamber meets the cylinder below… maybe fiberglass could get through there?
I heard about all this maybe 2 weeks after I bought it. Since then I hadn’t used it but a couple times and went back to using my Arizer Argo. That is until the 420 sale last month when I picked up an Arizer Solo3 v2. I’ve been using that exclusively. It’s not a ball vape though and the flavor profile is undeniably different. I like them both and am really bummed thinking my best option is probably not using it anymore.
Inside of my Angus Enhanced