The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie

jaanky

jaanky

Member
The $25 or $50 per parcel is effectively 10% or 20% and something I think most of us would stomach.

If things get really weird (like 145% weird), any chance the T2 could undergo some "substantial transformation" in the UK before shipping? Hand-etched serial numbers? Signature from the founder? That would make it a 10% tariff again. I'm sure an intelligent engineer/business owner could find a way to make the paperwork kosher ;)

Edit: proper terminology and this source and this source
 
phenomflowers

phenomflowers

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was the free shipping based on drop ship from china?
we already payed a high exchange rate for a UK purchase(not china) but i would be ok paying shipping from UK if that can happen.
I have the Vong-i WPA stem and only ordered the V2 due to early delivery of the V2 head.
 
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add1noob

add1noob

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Brenyo said:
Then you would have to pay 20% UK VAT instead which is even more :(
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I miss when Americans would throw revolutions over taxes. What are we even supposed to do? Last time they dropped a bunch of tea into the ocean or something and that helped? Should we all just go to Boston and dump a bunch of weed in the ocean? What would the founding fathers do?
 
jaanky

jaanky

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add1noob said:
I miss when Americans would throw revolutions over taxes. What are we even supposed to do? Last time they dropped a bunch of tea into the ocean or something and that helped? Should we all just go to Boston and dump a bunch of weed in the ocean? What would the founding fathers do?
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I think when basic day-to-day items aren't being stocked at big box stores like Target and Walmart we'll see public sentiment rapidly pressure the admin into retreating from tariffs or else there will be real-deal riots. This isn't WWII where everyone is pulling together and willingly rationing resources for a collective cause. This is just plain stupidity.

Americans, feel free to contact your reps and let them know there are limited run Tempest 2s with full Ti heat shields on the line.
 
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heater

Active Member
add1noob said:
@Brenyo if these tariff refunds are going to happen let me know I’m going to change my address to my family’s in London. It’s been a while since I’ve seen them anyways.

If I’m legally allowed I’ll offer this to as many people as I can and just bring them to the US and ship them out.
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first ballot VAS hall-of-famer right here 💪
 
add1noob

add1noob

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jaanky said:
I think when basic day-to-day items aren't being stocked at big box stores like Target and Walmart we'll see public sentiment rapidly pressure the admin into retreating from tariffs or else there will be real-deal riots. This isn't WWII where everyone is pulling together and willingly rationing resources for a collective cause. This is just plain stupidity.

Americans, feel free to contact your reps and let them know there are limited run Tempest 2s with full Ti heat shields on the line.
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Is there a politics thread on this website? I wrote up a bunch of stuff, but I feel like it’s a bit much for a Tempest thread. But in short you would be surprised how much it takes to get the public to do something.
 
cybrguy

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
add1noob said:
I miss when Americans would throw revolutions over taxes. What are we even supposed to do? Last time they dropped a bunch of tea into the ocean or something and that helped? Should we all just go to Boston and dump a bunch of weed in the ocean? What would the founding fathers do?
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Hold my beer... Actually, make that Hold our beer...
 
sternit

sternit

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add1noob said:
If I’m legally allowed I’ll offer this to as many people as I can and just bring them to the US and ship them out.
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i am no lawyer, but i am sure thats legally possible. BUT you would also have to legally pay all the tariffs once you get back to the US with a backpack full of tempests and if i understand that fact sheet right, that someone else linked earlier, you would have to pay even more:

"Imported goods sent through means other than the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the de minimis exemption will be subject to all applicable duties, which shall be paid in accordance with applicable entry and payment procedures."
 
FuckPyrolysis

FuckPyrolysis

Member
jaanky said:
Americans, feel free to contact your reps and let them know there are limited run Tempest 2s with full Ti heat shields on the line.
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Well, this is the funniest fucking thing I'm going to read today.
"Dear Congressperson Dipshit,
I was lucky enough to score a pre-sale limited edition Tempest 2 (as in the one that I'm sure you know has the Ti heat shield!). Save the jealousy for another day - I need your diplomatic privilege to ensure its safe passage into the country. I didn't vote for you and I won't vote for you, like ever. Regardless, you have a month to prepare for its safe arrival.
Sincerely,
Your non-supportive constituent, FuckPyrolysis"
Kinda like that?
 
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mcscruffy

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The reality for me is that I have to stomach the idea this is possibly a $500-600 device all in. No idea how long this tariff nonsense will continue and if it manages to keep in place semi long term it's going to be a similar cost to the main release with the aluminum heat shield.

I hope it works out in a more reasonable way but @Brenyo I want the device enough I hope you give stateside purchasers the option to move forward before you process refunds 🤞
 
cuckF0mbustion

cuckF0mbustion

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mcscruffy said:
The reality for me is that I have to stomach the idea this is possibly a $500-600 device all in. No idea how long this tariff nonsense will continue and if it manages to keep in place semi long term it's going to be a similar cost to the main release with the aluminum heat shield.

I hope it works out in a more reasonable way but @Brenyo I want the device enough I hope you give stateside purchasers the option to move forward before you process refunds 🤞
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I honestly am probably willing to pay that much for it too. In general I'm an extremely frugal person and I probably invest too much anyway. Every once in a while I should enjoy a bit of my money otherwise what's even the point of saving it up? Considering that I'm a tit whisker away from quitting combustion all together, I don't even feel bad about paying that much because it's probably improve my health a little
 
add1noob

add1noob

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sternit said:
i am no lawyer, but i am sure thats legally possible. BUT you would also have to legally pay all the tariffs once you get back to the US with a backpack full of tempests and if i understand that fact sheet right, that someone else linked earlier, you would have to pay even more:
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What if they’re all for personal use? I’ll take a hit with each one then ship it It’s genius.
 
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Sniffler

New Member
mcscruffy said:
The reality for me is that I have to stomach the idea this is possibly a $500-600 device all in. No idea how long this tariff nonsense will continue and if it manages to keep in place semi long term it's going to be a similar cost to the main release with the aluminum heat shield.

I hope it works out in a more reasonable way but @Brenyo I want the device enough I hope you give stateside purchasers the option to move forward before you process refunds 🤞
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Yeah I also hope they give us the option to move forward, I wouldn’t want to miss out on this even if there’s an additional cost
 
Sniffler,
General Disaster

General Disaster

Stationary momentum!
It may not just be the tariff's themselves that cause problems with shipping to the US. For example, in the UK UPS announced it was not going to be sending any more US deliveries above the de minimis limit due to the confusion with just trying to work out the paper work and payments with everything changing so fast.
e.g. UPS have just announced they will now be shipping again, but it required a sit-down with the Whitehouse to work a deal. How this will be in a months time, who the hell can say? Hopefully though the shippers involved will have sorted something out by then as US businesses as well as consumers will be suffering badly for it and that seems to be something gets a response with u-turns etc.
 
jaanky

jaanky

Member
The NYT reported the following today in an article about Shein, Temu, and de minimis that was last updated a half hour ago:

A $10 T-Shirt Could Become a $24.50 T-Shirt as a Key Tariff Loophole Closes​

Starting Friday, goods from China worth up to $800 will be subject to tariffs and more paperwork under new Trump administration rules.

The import charges can differ depending on how the goods are shipped. If they come on an express carrier like DHL or FedEx, the goods will be subject to tariffs as high as 145 percent, or $14.50 on a $10 T-shirt.

Shipments coming in through the Postal Service will face a tariff equivalent to 120 percent of the value of the goods, starting Friday, or a fee of $100 per package. The fee increases to $200 in June.
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Edit: Executive Order dated April 9 confirms this, unless there's been a more recent update
 
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jaanky,
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I_like_logs

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This tariff stuff is really sad.

The good part of me hopes it is resolved before the preorders are shipped and everyone gets what they want with minimal fuss.

The evil part of me is hoping the tariffs continue, so that some of the preorders become available again!

Given that we are what we eat, or think, or vape, or something; instead of letting the evil thoughts win, I’d like to officially register my desire for one titanium heat shield.

So if you’re reading this in 2026 and your titanium heat shield is sitting unused… let me know, I have money and love for you.
 
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Zero187

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Man.. I am SO pumped for this vape, but don't know if I can justify more than $100 extra for any tariff BS. Really hope it stays $25 per parcel!!

The worst part is not knowing for another month+.. If it's not coming, then I'd purchase a Simrell or Tornado instead, as soon as they're available. Whereas if the Tempest 2 does come thru, then I don't want any other devices.. But would REALLY hate to miss out on the next restock of Simrell/Tornado, only to be screwed by tariffs and not get Tempest either. Beyond frustrating.

At least I can proudly say I was NOT one of the Americans who voted for this mess!
 
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Mickk

Mickk

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