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Pen Puffco Pivot

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
Same here. When the oven takes long to heat up, or I get a high temp error off one dab, I know its time for a deep clean.

Do you notice that the ambient temperature of your environment affects the shut off?

I’ve seen mine shut off a few times after just one heatup at the beach, but I sort of figured it was due to the 90F+ temperatures outside triggering an early failsafe.
 

ezpz

Well-Known Member
Do you notice that the ambient temperature of your environment affects the shut off?
I haven’t noticed that, but I keep my pivot in a hard 3d printed case in a fanny pack, so well protected from the elements.
I’ve seen mine shut off a few times after just one heatup at the beach, but I sort of figured it was due to the 90F+ temperatures outside triggering an early failsafe.
Could be that the battery warmed up a little because of the weather. I had a high temp error one time when I tried to use my pivot right after charging for a bit. The battery was a little warm and I got the error midway through the session.
 

florduh

Well-Known Member
Yeah I'm back on the Pivot train as well. The Proxy is shelved for now. When you get dialed in, the Proxy's vapor is like 5% more comfortable, but the Pivot is significantly more convenient :shrug:

I'm still using it stock. But a while back I saw WoodyVapors posted a (I assume) custom top that looks cool:

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Taking glass tops out and about would make me nervous. Wood and concentrate vapor doesn't sound ideal to me. But I wonder if a ceramic topper with a carb hole for a little "convection cooling" would work:hmm:
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
Taking glass tops out and about would make me nervous. Wood and concentrate vapor doesn't sound ideal to me. But I wonder if a ceramic topper with a carb hole for a little "convection cooling" would work:hmm:

I got one to make a top for it, but honestly I like the stock flip-top lid when out of the house - one less thing to have to set down somewhere.

Could be cool for at home though.

I was planning on doing a ceramic mouthpiece, but anything like that would probably get too hot.
Even the silicone gets pretty warm with a back-to-back.
 

Texus

Well-Known Member
Yeah I'm back on the Pivot train as well. The Proxy is shelved for now. When you get dialed in, the Proxy's vapor is like 5% more comfortable, but the Pivot is significantly more convenient :shrug:

I'm still using it stock. But a while back I saw WoodyVapors posted a (I assume) custom top that looks cool:

FCapw7f.png


Taking glass tops out and about would make me nervous. Wood and concentrate vapor doesn't sound ideal to me. But I wonder if a ceramic topper with a carb hole for a little "convection cooling" would work:hmm:
As lovely as wood is for cooling, I'd hope that the wood top is lined. Even with a lined wood stem, that will limit your cleaning options. I'm more of a drop it in iso kind of guy. Especially with concentrates.
 

florduh

Well-Known Member
I got one to make a top for it, but honestly I like the stock flip-top lid when out of the house - one less thing to have to set down somewhere.

Could be cool for at home though.

I was planning on doing a ceramic mouthpiece, but anything like that would probably get too hot.
Even the silicone gets pretty warm with a back-to-back.

Good point. The other thing that makes me wary of third party tops is, Puffco did a ton of testing on the air flow and vapor flow. that's hard for individual glass makers to do. On the Peak, it might not matter. But on a short vapor path like the Pivot, that type of thing becomes more important.

As lovely as wood is for cooling, I'd hope that the wood top is lined. Even with a lined wood stem, that will limit your cleaning options. I'm more of a drop it in iso kind of guy. Especially with concentrates.

I don't think that vendor makes glass lined options, but I might be wrong. I also don't mind a "woody" taste if it's herb. I don't think it mixes well with the cleaner taste of 'trates:shrug:
 

Razhumikin

Well-Known Member
Good point. The other thing that makes me wary of third party tops is, Puffco did a ton of testing on the air flow and vapor flow. that's hard for individual glass makers to do. On the Peak, it might not matter. But on a short vapor path like the Pivot, that type of thing becomes more important.



I don't think that vendor makes glass lined options, but I might be wrong. I also don't mind a "woody" taste if it's herb. I don't think it mixes well with the cleaner taste of 'trates:shrug:
Not glass lined, but its likely steel lined, the wooden top for the peak I have from WoodyVapors is steel lined. Will def add a woody taste regardless of lining or type of wood, i dont find it much more bothersome on concentrate than on flower but that wood flavor was never something i was chasing anyways. Hard to beat the wood for just throwing in a bag without worrying about breaking glass.
 

hashmasta kut

vapor is the best!
I've made a bunch of glass wet and dry tops and tips for the pivot. They insert into the silicone lip and sit above the ceramic chamber, effectively eliminating silicone from the vapor path :)

I don't have some of these, but some are left.

 

jbm

Well-Known Member
I've made a bunch of glass wet and dry tops and tips for the pivot. They insert into the silicone lip and sit above the ceramic chamber, effectively eliminating silicone from the vapor path :)

I don't have some of these, but some are left.

Do yours require cutting the mouthpiece?
 

rvarick

Well-Known Member
This case works really well with the Pivot (fits basically like a glove), as shown in the image below. And shout out to the person on Amazon who specifically mentioned it fitting the Pivot in their review (and also even provided a picture), as this helped narrow my search to this one!

I'm really enjoying the Pivot too. Coming from relying on either the Cricket, RiO or Divine Tribe V5 for my dabs, the Pivot has been winning the reach test again and again. I usually run mine natively at the secret low temp mode (5 Click after starting in the blue setting), with a 3mm ruby.

 
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florduh

Well-Known Member
This case works really well with the Pivot (fits basically like a glove), as shown in the image below. And shout out to the person on Amazon who specifically mentioned it fitting the Pivot in their review (and also even provided a picture), as this helped narrow my search to this one!

I'm really enjoying the Pivot too. Coming from relying on either the Cricket, RiO or Divine Tribe V5 for my dabs, the Pivot has been winning the reach test again and again. I usually run mine natively at the secret low temp mode (5 Click after starting in the blue setting), with a 3mm ruby.


How hot does that glass top get :hmm:

I agree with you though. The Pivot is so easy and is (to me) 99% as good of a hit as more cumbersome devices. I got a second one on sale at a smoke shop, mostly to have a backup battery.

As a cart/pod apologist...I haven't bought one since Christmas.
 

rvarick

Well-Known Member
How hot does that glass top get :hmm:

I agree with you though. The Pivot is so easy and is (to me) 99% as good of a hit as more cumbersome devices. I got a second one on sale at a smoke shop, mostly to have a backup battery.

As a cart/pod apologist...I haven't bought one since Christmas.
This top (Meademade Buzzer Top) stays comfortable - at least at the low temp I run it with. It's pretty thick glass, and also seems like it forces the vapor to hit the top before it travels out the mouthpiece, which may help.

I've been liking the ergonomics of it, that it catches a 3mm pearl from otherwise falling out, and the price was great too. I do wish it wasn't slightly wider than the pivot overall though, if I was going to find one minor nit.
 
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