Tornado by Vestratto

[kokolokokolokon]

Curiously, my new Tornado doesn't react in the same way as my 1st one, which dates from the 1st batch in April 2024.
The new one is “lighter” in terms of extraction, with the same settings as the old one, whether with lighter or IH. It seems to me to be more capricious in obtaining optimum results. I've also noticed that the bowl seizes up, whereas my 1st never did.
Overall, I'm a bit disappointed.

@Oden Im trying one and those are my thoughts….capricious to get good results…. the flavor is meh…. The chamber opens a bit when im using it (and i dont know if it opens enough to affect the performance but i have been said not to close it while it is hot…), and it fits in the wand but with error 01 (my other vapes works good on my wand. I tried different batteries, positions, etc…).

This are just some initial thoughts, i have to try it a little more to see how it really works…

 

[jaanky]

https://imgur.com/a/pXIOq7x

My June pre-order arrived yesterday. I received an email on Sunday with three options for shipping as I'd initially chosen free standard: ship standard and pray it leaves Canada in time, hold off until the strike is over, or upgrade to DHL for $35. I opted for DHL, and what a luxury -- USPS could learn a thing or three. Yeah paying more sucks but if you always opt for free USPS or UPS Ground Advantage it's a real treat.

Still not sure how I managed to get so lucky. I missed the preorder window by a country mile but kept refreshing the page every morning just in case. Didn't hesitate when it was in stock one day, and it went out of stock immediately after ordering.

Wand works great at 525*F + DV adapter, but I can't seem to get my Wand to heat it from the back. OHEs are easy with .1ish and now I want to do what everyone says not to do and max that .3 chamber Haven't been chasing flavor but I'm sure there's some to be had. I undercooked a bowl or two and think a good balance could be achieved. Found that deep brown, full extraction consistency soon after.

Overall, very pleased with the product and customer experience (no delays or issues, proactive comms, multiple shipping options in the face of an uncontrollable event).

After some more time with the 'nado I've decided heating to first click, removing from heat, and waiting for the second click before hitting is my preference. The flavor is really quite good imo and the production is still unreal. It's easy and consistent to achieve, evenly roasted (just lighter than a 525 time out). The bowl has to sit loose or else jamming, and that seems a little janky at times, but it adds a little character

Intro'd it to some friends -- they liked it and complimented the flavor.

 

[stonedBBer]

Curiously, my new Tornado doesn't react in the same way as my 1st one, which dates from the 1st batch in April 2024.
The new one is “lighter” in terms of extraction, with the same settings as the old one, whether with lighter or IH. It seems to me to be more capricious in obtaining optimum results. I've also noticed that the bowl seizes up, whereas my 1st never did.
Overall, I'm a bit disappointed.

Otherwise, I received the missing spiral from my Fullrig (thanks to Vestratto who sent 2) which I put in the mp, and i added an intercooler I placed in the body.

Set is complete (Tornado&Anvil) :

Which intercooler is that?

 

[Oden]

@Oden J'en essaie un et voici mes réflexions... capricieux pour obtenir de bons résultats... le goût est bof... La chambre s'ouvre un peu quand je l'utilise (et je ne sais pas si elle s'ouvre suffisamment pour affecter les performances mais on m'a dit de ne pas la fermer quand elle est chaude...), et elle rentre dans la baguette mais avec l'erreur 01 (mes autres vapes fonctionnent bien sur ma baguette. J'ai essayé différentes batteries, positions, etc...).

Ce ne sont que quelques réflexions initiales, je dois essayer un peu plus pour voir comment cela fonctionne vraiment…

@Oden Im trying one and those are my thoughts….capricious to get good results…. the flavor is meh…. The chamber opens a bit when im using it (and i dont know if it opens enough to affect the performance but i have been said not to close it while it is hot…), and it fits in the wand but with error 01 (my other vapes works good on my wand. I tried different batteries, positions, etc…).

This are just some initial thoughts, i have to try it a little more to see how it really works…

I've never had a problem like this with my nado.
I close it completely before each heating, and I've never had a thermal lockout issue.
Unfortunately, I've heard that many wands can be temperamental with the nado.
I use mine with the forge, and occasionally with a great lighter I bought on Aliexpress.

I think you need to test it more.
You'll see that this thing really hits hard.

 

[kokolokokolokon]

@Oden I also close the camera completely, but it opens by itself when I heat it up

 

[Roffa]

Once more I'll declare that I think the Wand is under-powered for the Tornado. Either get a high capacity IH or use a high output torch. The Tornado shines when it gets lots of energy.

 

[MDude]

I use it with the Wand and it is great.

230 °C until the first or second click.

 

[Oden]

@Oden I also close the camera completely, but it opens by itself when I heat it up

It's really strange
Does this happen even with a torch?

 

[Duba]

Which intercooler is that?

simrell

 

[kokolokokolokon]

It's really strange
Does this happen even with a torch?

Considering mine doesn’t work on my wand…yes

 

[Oden]

Considering mine doesn’t work on my wand…yes

That's really bad luck
I'll contact Vestratto if I were you.
This defect must really reduce performance...
I've never done a session with the chamber slightly open to confirm this.

 

[Flotsam]

OK so i am still relatively new to DHV, only been doing it for a year or so.

Got myself a Dynavap M7 last november. Oh and some good experience w both Vaphit & Vaponic now as well.

From the Tornado aficionado perspective why would I want to try a Tornado?

How is the experience different from the M7?

Thanks

 

[TigoleBitties]

OK so i am still relatively new to DHV, only been doing it for a year or so.

Got myself a Dynavap M7 last november. Oh and some good experience w both Vaphit & Vaponic now as well.

From the Tornado aficionado perspective why would I want to try a Tornado?

How is the experience different from the M7?

Thanks

I would say the main differences are

• Bowl size is at least 0.2g so much larger than the vapes you currently own, although you still get good results with smaller loads if you wish
• I use the Wand with it and love it although you can torch it or use more powerful induction heaters. It will take around 17 flashes to heat from cold and 8 flashes for reheats with the Wand. I'm guessing you may own one for your M7.
• It has a clicker like a dynavap so you can also just wait to hear a click although I find this will lead to a dark roast, massive volume of vapor and a OHE (one hit extraction) of even full bowls. It's a tolerance killer. These OHE's may not be the most flavorful but they are potent. I personally like to heat until just before the click to preserve taste although you may need to reheat to clear the bowl.
• The cool thing about the Tornado is the secondary atomizer that makes the vapor feel "smooth" and easy on the throat.

 

[coolbreeze]

OK so i am still relatively new to DHV, only been doing it for a year or so.

Got myself a Dynavap M7 last november. Oh and some good experience w both Vaphit & Vaponic now as well.

From the Tornado aficionado perspective why would I want to try a Tornado?

How is the experience different from the M7?

Thanks

You'll find more detail back there, but two things: the bowl is large and the atomizer seems to be effective beyond the size of the load. The vapor as a result is very thick and smooth and the high is powerful. It will outdo the M7 but, tbf, that's a tool for another job.

 

[MDude]

It is great with microdoses.

I prefer microdosing with Tornado.

 

[HoodiesAndHondas]

I would say the main differences are

• Bowl size is at least 0.2g so much larger than the vapes you currently own, although you still get good results with smaller loads if you wish
• I use the Wand with it and love it although you can torch it or use more powerful induction heaters. It will take around 17 flashes to heat from cold and 8 flashes for reheats with the Wand. I'm guessing you may own one for your M7.
• It has a clicker like a dynavap so you can also just wait to hear a click although I find this will lead to a dark roast, massive volume of vapor and a OHE (one hit extraction) of even full bowls. It's a tolerance killer. These OHE's may not be the most flavorful but they are potent. I personally like to heat until just before the click to preserve taste although you may need to reheat to clear the bowl.
• The cool thing about the Tornado is the secondary atomizer that makes the vapor feel "smooth" and easy on the throat.

It really is something, how it can spit out so much vapor, yet still be so smooth.

 

[MDude]

Considering mine doesn’t work on my wand…yes

Have you tried putting two screens in the Wand from the bottom...? put them on the rim of the glass opening.

Mine also showed error but now that I have screens in it rarely happens.

I just drop the Tornado in. It sits a little to the side but it heats it perfectly.

 

[kokolokokolokon]

@MDude i found how to use it: inserting the half of the device. There is a thin line between a good results and pyrolisis, but at least it works

 

[SlickHenry]

So my half rig arrived with the XL mouthpiece. Feels very off not including one cooling spiral having put so much money down for the device and the stem. I notice they are selling the spirals on the site separately for 8 bucks. Have read that if you order the full rig it is included. Feel a bit cheated if I am honest. Certainly am not ordering them separately and paying 25 bucks postage.

Edit- sorry should have read earlier post as others reporting the same. Is it the Titanium Spiral Filters I need?

 

[nicknobody]

So my half rig arrived with the XL mouthpiece. Feels very off not including one cooling spiral having put so much money down for the device and the stem. I notice they are selling the spirals on the site separately for 8 bucks. Have read that if you order the full rig it is included. Feel a bit cheated if I am honest. Certainly am not ordering them separately and paying 25 bucks postage.

Edit- sorry should have read earlier post as others reporting the same. Is it the Titanium Spiral Filters I need?

One in the stem is completely necessary

Two is too restrictive. Don’t add a second in the xl mp.

 

[letter never sent]

So my half rig arrived with the XL mouthpiece. Feels very off not including one cooling spiral having put so much money down for the device and the stem. I notice they are selling the spirals on the site separately for 8 bucks. Have read that if you order the full rig it is included. Feel a bit cheated if I am honest. Certainly am not ordering them separately and paying 25 bucks postage.

Edit- sorry should have read earlier post as others reporting the same. Is it the Titanium Spiral Filters I need?

Yeah, I noticed that too after ordering, the half rig doesn’t come with a spiral. Annoying. Does anyone have a good US source for similar cooling spirals that work with the Tornado stem? Does the Simrell stuff work?

 

[Petetbay]

Yeah, I noticed that too after ordering, the half rig doesn’t come with a spiral. Annoying. Does anyone have a good US source for similar cooling spirals that work with the Tornado stem? Does the Simrell stuff work?

I see they have spiral option now for the half rig stem/xl mp adding $8. The full Tornado/Forge bundle comes with spiral and wagon wheel thing for the forge while the $349 Forge doesn’t include the wagon wheel. The full Tornado w/half rig stem makes no mention of the spiral being included.

I’ll say it again that Vestratto is the worst vape retailer I’ve dealt with.
- very poor or nonexistent customer service.
- does not make a 8mm stem adapter for the Tornado even though the USA adapter works just needs to cut down to eliminate the airflow part.
- Nickel and dime you for extras like the spiral and wagon wheel on hi-priced items.
- I live in Canada and have to pay only in USD which clips me another 2% for conversion.
- No warranty on anything, you are relying on his good will to repair/replace faulty products.

Vestratto could take some lessons from MadHeaters on how to treat your customers as he is one the best retailers I’ve dealt with.

 

[HoodiesAndHondas]

I see they have spiral option now for the half rig stem/xl mp adding $8. The full Tornado/Forge bundle comes with spiral and wagon wheel thing for the forge while the $349 Forge doesn’t include the wagon wheel. The full Tornado w/half rig stem makes no mention of the spiral being included.

I’ll say it again that Vestratto is the worst vape retailer I’ve dealt with.
- very poor or nonexistent customer service.
- does not make a 8mm stem adapter for the Tornado even though the USA adapter works just needs to cut down to eliminate the airflow part.
- Nickel and dime you for extras like the spiral and wagon wheel on hi-priced items.
- I live in Canada and have to pay only in USD which clips me another 2% for conversion.
- No warranty on anything, you are relying on his good will to repair/replace faulty products.

Vestratto could take some lessons from MadHeaters on how to treat your customers as he is one the best retailers I’ve dealt with.

100% agreed. And the bag appeal on the Tornado is lackluster. Not even a single extra o-ring is wild to me. I enjoy the device itself, but damn.

 

[Namekian]

I see they have spiral option now for the half rig stem/xl mp adding $8. The full Tornado/Forge bundle comes with spiral and wagon wheel thing for the forge while the $349 Forge doesn’t include the wagon wheel. The full Tornado w/half rig stem makes no mention of the spiral being included.

I’ll say it again that Vestratto is the worst vape retailer I’ve dealt with.
- very poor or nonexistent customer service.
- does not make a 8mm stem adapter for the Tornado even though the USA adapter works just needs to cut down to eliminate the airflow part.
- Nickel and dime you for extras like the spiral and wagon wheel on hi-priced items.
- I live in Canada and have to pay only in USD which clips me another 2% for conversion.
- No warranty on anything, you are relying on his good will to repair/replace faulty products.

Vestratto could take some lessons from MadHeaters on how to treat your customers as he is one the best retailers I’ve dealt with.

Just to add to the "Vestratto is bad to their customers" convo, they have had several restocks of the thermocore anvil but the thermocore oven by itself has been "sold out" for almost a year. So if you are an early adopter with an original oven or a duracore (I have both) you can't update to a thermocore without buying the whole anvil again...super annoying.

 

[Texus]

I use it with the Wand and it is great.

230 °C until the first or second click.

Remember, that is not an actual temp being measured on the Wand. That "temp" is from lab measurements of how hot the bowl for dabbing gets after the Wand IH has been on for a certain amount of time.

So you can just use the clicks for reference. Unless you find the perfect "temp" for the Wand to turn off at for your preferred level of vaporization.