Anyone able to still smoke and vape?

[simba]

How can you separate the effects of combustion from the effects of the weed?

I feel like the effects when vaped or eaten are the most reflective effects of the plant because it's not having other effects occurring at the same time?

Also I remember once having a few blasts of amnesia haze with a Dynavap once and passed out for a few hours. I've never had that instant or strong effect from that strain otherwise.

 

[hashmasta kut]

Not sure about your first question, can you elaborate? I think somehow the combustion of some strains gives a greater effect than the vapor alone. Not often though, just rarely. I have grown countless strains and both smoke a little and dab a lot. Usually the smoke alone does not satisfy.
I have been dabbing and smoking the flower for weeks now of two haze plants. Both of them are excellent smoked, and occasionally the dab hits hard, but overall the smoke is more consistent somehow. Sometimes the dab seems lack luster, but two or three puffs of herb smoke always ring the bell, and I can keep smoking it all day and not burn out, since they are stacking highs and also very uppy. Dabs are of flower rosin.

And haze really should not ever make one pass out, haze is an uppy trippy high that has never made me feel sleepy. Not sure what you had exactly.

 

[pop22]

what your missing from smoking is the poisons created by high temperature combustion, formaldehyde, etc....

 

[hoptimum]

what your missing from smoking is the poisons created by high temperature combustion, formaldehyde, etc....

The chemical process of pyrolysis creates some nasty side effects.

 

[hashmasta kut]

I started vaping almost exclusively in 2002, At least 90 percent of the buds I grow go towards vaporizing, my lady smokes, but very little. For about a decade at least I almost never smoked at all, in the last few years I have relaxed a bit and can do both. Most herb smoked does make one feel groggy and get burnout, haze is an exception. When we started vaping at work back then, a few of us, we went to being at the end of a two hour shift tired and slightly burned out and I need a toke! To at the end of a two hour shift we were all still pretty chipper, and telling jokes and not burned out, as the smoking really does have a crash afterword, but vapor does not. Much nicer to vape when working imo.

 

[simba]

Not sure about your first question, can you elaborate?

How are you determining that the extra effects you're getting are from the weed being combusted rather than the combustion process?

And haze really should not ever make one pass out, haze is an uppy trippy high that has never made me feel sleepy. Not sure what you had exactly.

I'm guessing you've not had amnesia haze, it's named appropriately.

Most herb smoked does make one feel groggy and get burnout, haze is an exception. When we started vaping at work back then, a few of us, we went to being at the end of a two hour shift tired and slightly burned out and I need a toke! To at the end of a two hour shift we were all still pretty chipper, and telling jokes and not burned out, as the smoking really does have a crash afterword, but vapor does not. Much nicer to vape when working imo.

One of the side effects of carbon monoxide poisoning is lethargy.

 

[hashmasta kut]

I still don't get what you are trying to get at in your first question. As I said, smoking the hazes I have seems more effective at getting one high than the vapor alone. Is it from combustion? I guess so, since it is being combusted.

Amnesia is not passing out or getting sleepy, it is forgetting things, for example one time I had my first vape hit of Willie Nelson, I closed my eyes and all of a sudden forgot what I just smoked, then I forgot where I was! Was awesome.

Go read any listing on Amnesia haze google gives you, they all say uplifting and energetic. I put - will amnesia haze make you sleepy and the answer is no.

Carbon monoxide, exactly.

 

[Rodney]

NO

 

[simba]

I still don't get what you are trying to get at in your first question. As I said, smoking the hazes I have seems more effective at getting one high than the vapor alone. Is it from combustion? I guess so, since it is being combusted.

Amnesia is not passing out or getting sleepy, it is forgetting things, for example one time I had my first vape hit of Willie Nelson, I closed my eyes and all of a sudden forgot what I just smoked, then I forgot where I was! Was awesome.

Go read any listing on Amnesia haze google gives you, they all say uplifting and energetic. I put - will amnesia haze make you sleepy and the answer is no.

Carbon monoxide, exactly.

I don't understand your reply, you said you don't understand my question but then you answer it? You can't know that there are extra weed effects being unlocked by combustion, I'm not sure how you could ever work that out?

Vaporising the weed does seem to be a truer representation of weed's effects because you don't have the effects of combustion as well to deal with.

Different weeds affect people differently too. I consume strains of weed first thing in the morning that would wipe people out for the day. My point was that I had never had a hit that strong from that strain of weed when combusted.

 

[hashmasta kut]

I have smoked weed for 50 years, and vaped it for 23. I know the difference in effect.

Not sure what you aren't getting here, As I said there are some strains that have a stronger/better effect when smoked.

I prefer vapor almost always. I have vaped every day from late 2002. But there are some strains that are superior in smoke form.

Sorry if you don't like that.

Tom Hill himself said his strain seems better smoked than vaporized for some reason.

And for the part you never addressed, Amnesia Haze is not known for any sleepy sedative effect, just to reiterate, since you skipped that part.

 

[Rodney]

When you combust weed you get all these toxins and hydrocarbons and this makes you cough and feel more intoxicated than when you vape weed.

It feels like you are getting a stronger/better affect from combusting because you are becoming much more intoxicated from all the toxins chemicals and hydrocarbons that get created when you combust.

I mean I get so so high from combusting and feel so so stoned because of all the chemicals it creates but I stick to vaping as i prefer to be high from the THC and cannabinoids over being high and intoxicated from chemicals created when combusting.

I have only been vaping for a couple of years myself and during this time have combusted by accident a load of times and fell so so high out my mind much much more high than vaping weed but again this is because of all the chemicals produced when combusting.

It is very simple if you want high from a load of chems keep combusting and you will be high out your mind on chemicals and THC

OR alternatively just vape it and skip the chemical high unless you prefer the chemical high? and if so cool cool but please do not expect people on a forum dedicated to NOT combusting to understand what you are talking about

 

[hashmasta kut]

I don't cough.

I don't get higher from combusting most herbs. Most have a better effect vaporized. Only a select few seem to have extra desired effects when smoked.

Your experience of getting high out of your mind on smoke is your own experience, I have never heard of or experienced this myself.

The haze I am referencing isn't way better in smoke form, it just seems more reliable to have a good effect when smoked. Many times the vapor hit may seem a bit lackluster in comparison, but some vapor hits can be excellent.

 

[Pangolin 6]

I don't cough.

I don't get higher from combusting most herbs. Most have a better effect vaporized. Only a select few seem to have extra desired effects when smoked.

Your experience of getting high out of your mind on smoke is your own experience, I have never heard of or experienced this myself.
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The haze I am referencing isn't way better in smoke form, it just seems more reliable to have a good effect when smoked. Many times the vapor hit may seem a bit lackluster in comparison, but some ecvapor hits can be excellent.

A bit off-topic but I recently had some silver haze that was disappointingly meh in the AVLP but really came alive in the vapman.

 

[Xenkishøtz]

A bit off-topic but I recently had some silver haze that was disappointingly meh in the AVLP but really came alive in the vapman.

+1 for different strains and devices working differently. There is no one size fits all vaping method which unfortunately turns a lot of people off. It shouldn't as it's really a minor annoyance in comparison to inhaling constant chemicals in smoke.

 

[simba]

I have smoked weed for 50 years, and vaped it for 23. I know the difference in effect.

Not sure what you aren't getting here, As I said there are some strains that have a stronger/better effect when smoked.

I prefer vapor almost always. I have vaped every day from late 2002. But there are some strains that are superior in smoke form.

Sorry if you don't like that.

Tom Hill himself said his strain seems better smoked than vaporized for some reason.

And for the part you never addressed, Amnesia Haze is not known for any sleepy sedative effect, just to reiterate, since you skipped that part.

It's not what I like, I'm saying that you can't separate effects from smoke and vapour in the way that you're saying as if it's fact.

And I did address it, different strains hit people different. What else do you want me to say?