Manual Vape Thread

[maremaresing]

Those look really amazing! I actually think your move to 8mm and ditching the dyna tip as the connection is a great choice. You must have had a frustrating time with keeping it snug on the dyna tip, especially since different model years have different interaction surfaces. They way you have now, while risking the typical heat lock with threaded connections, makes for a more secure travel option.

I think it looks nicer as well, as the dyna baller thing doesn't appeal at all. What metal are you using there?

 

[floydbaragwanath]

I’m new to the vaping world, I started off with an Arizer solo II and quickly discovered Dynavap. Got myself a woodwynd but then I discovered Mad Heaters Tempest and have never looked back! I love the ritual experience of using analog vapes with a torch and the Reload of course. So satisfying. Recently made a case to hold them all together aswell while on the go. My soul can now rest in peace.

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I love manual vapes! I wanted to start a thread where we could aggregate manual vapes, advice, and info, no matter the heating method or construction material. Wood, metal, ceramic, glass, stone, or whatever your manual vape is made of, please share it here!


I'll start with my O'Connell Infinity Bowl and Flux Capacitor heat diffuser. One of my first vapes was the legendary OWW Noisy Cricket, a vape so delightful it helped me completely fuck combustion while instilling a love for this style. Broke my heart a little to see him move away from his wooden vapes, but he left us with the Flux Capacitor and while it's no NC, it is a great vape in its own right, especially with the half-bowl adapter. Made of Titanium with some glass and wood, It's pretty easy to handle and produces excellent flavor. It also doubles as an injector/diffuser bowl:

The old Flux Capacitor! Haha love it!

 

[coolbreeze]

The old Flux Capacitor! Haha love it!

 

[Random Switch]

I'm torn between getting a Dani fusion 2.0 with the Artemis stem on sale for £120 or the Dyna Woodwynd with armoured cap and inspire wand for £170. Any thoughts?
I currently have the M7 and love it, but want something that feels a bit more fancy.
I may end up getting both as the Dyna deal seems a great way to pick up a wand for cheap, but I'm not exactly flush for cash ATM and the Dani is only a £20 saving off it's normal price

 

[budski]

get the wand +ww (good deal compliments the M7) and save for the Dani

 

[DgN'R]

Those look really amazing! I actually think your move to 8mm and ditching the dyna tip as the connection is a great choice. You must have had a frustrating time with keeping it snug on the dyna tip, especially since different model years have different interaction surfaces. They way you have now, while risking the typical heat lock with threaded connections, makes for a more secure travel option.

I think it looks nicer as well, as the dyna baller thing doesn't appeal at all. What metal are you using there?

I'll explain all this in detail in an appropriate topic soon, because for the moment I'm waiting for the final prototype (a few minor adjustments). Currently, all I can say is don't be fooled by appearances. You've probably heard the expression “You can't judge a book by its cover”

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[budski]

nice patina

 

[Perfect_Speed4069]

Weird feeling: I had both funds and opportunity to get a tempest 2, but didn't. Similar to how I did when the Vapman Click landed. Most peculiar.

 

[Mr Turnip]

I'm the same but I've got good feeling about the induction cap for the Dani 2.0. so I'm holding out for that.

 

[Perfect_Speed4069]

I'm torn between getting a Dani fusion 2.0 with the Artemis stem on sale for £120 or the Dyna Woodwynd with armoured cap and inspire wand for £170. Any thoughts?
I currently have the M7 and love it, but want something that feels a bit more fancy.
I may end up getting both as the Dyna deal seems a great way to pick up a wand for cheap, but I'm not exactly flush for cash ATM and the Dani is only a £20 saving off it's normal price

I have both setups. Fusion 2 is amazing and possibly my favourite of this kind of vape (I'm comparing with a variety of Dynavaps, Convectors, a variety of Danis, a Tempest and some Vaphits), although I gave up on IHs a while ago. Much prefer the Fusion 2 to the Woodwynd with armoured cap. I tend to use the WW tip on a glass WPA with the perforated cap for wide open tasty tokes on a J Hook. That said, they're both excellent choices so you can't really go wrong

 

[Pangolin 6]

I have someone who has converted to smoking traditional (european street-) hash through a small pipe. This is an improvement over burning paper and tobacco but I'd love to provide them with an option that would work for their style/desires. Hash is a must (they do not wish to consume flower). The type traditionally bought on the proverbial street. This means traditional maroc (mostly I imagine), afghan, leb, occasionally nepal etc.

Then today I was thinking about the Vaporgenie. The form is perfect, and the process, it's the same basically! If it performed well with hash, and by well I mean well enough to convince, it would be a real contender for a solution.

So my first question is for Vaporgenie owners: Does it perform well with the type of hash described? (Does it perform well enough to convert a combuster?)

But my second question is more general: Do any of you manual vapers know of a device with a form that is very pipe-like that will do a good job with trad hash?

I suppose what I am looking for is pipe-like, flame powered, does trad hash well, process very similar to combusting with pipe. Maybe this exists?

 

[SlickHenry]

I have someone who has converted to smoking traditional (european street-) hash through a small pipe. This is an improvement over burning paper and tobacco but I'd love to provide them with an option that would work for their style/desires. Hash is a must (they do not wish to consume flower). The type traditionally bought on the proverbial street. This means traditional maroc (mostly I imagine), afghan, leb, occasionally nepal etc.

Then today I was thinking about the Vaporgenie. The form is perfect, and the process, it's the same basically! If it performed well with hash, and by well I mean well enough to convince, it would be a real contender for a solution.

So my first question is for Vaporgenie owners: Does it perform well with the type of hash described? (Does it perform well enough to convert a combuster?)

But my second question is more general: Do any of you manual vapers know of a device with a form that is very pipe-like that will do a good job with trad hash?

I suppose what I am looking for is pipe-like, flame powered, does trad hash well, process very similar to combusting with pipe. Maybe this exists?

Sorry I don't have the Vapor Genie so can't comment on its performance. In my opinion the Vapman is the best for hash. If you are wanting pipe-like flame powered experience then I'd say Lotus or Sticky Brick.

Personally I think conduction focussed vapes perform better with hash though.

 

[fangorn]

But my second question is more general: Do any of you manual vapers know of a device with a form that is very pipe-like that will do a good job with trad hash?

Like a pipe? The Lotus !!!

 

[olysh pops]

But my second question is more general: Do any of you manual vapers know of a device with a form that is very pipe-like that will do a good job with trad hash?

With trad hash i use trww devices like quartz cap or terpcicle for big hits.

 

[maremaresing]

I find my hash to be very stubborn to vaporize in almost anything I try. It's the dry sift variety, if that makes a difference. The problem I see with convection devices is hot air just running around the hash without heating it properly, and with conduction devices it clogging the airflow. I've tried dynavap, BFG Dani and Fusion, dosing caps in high power devices, Volski Vector, Pax, Vaphit, Vapexhale evo, and Lotus.

I haven't tried it with all my vaporgenies because the only one with a low and flat bowl capacity that I think would work really well is the handcarved wood VG. I'm not a fan of gunking up a wood vapor path or risking combustion. I should try it, because the VG reaches extraction temperatures easily that hash likes. I bet it would get a really nice roast.

Like a pipe? The Lotus !!!

It's this!!!!

You know what I've gotten solid results from with hash? The Lotus! It's convection, so IDK why it works so nicely. The built in stir tool make moving the hash around to keep it fresh very easy. When I tried it recently I was very surprised.

Of course, I use very small amounts of hash at a time, so I am using my own 8mm Petal Pipe. The narrow deep channel helps maximize heat applied to the hash. If I was using larger amounts at a time, the standard Lotus bowl would be just as great, I'm sure.

In my opinion the Vapman is the best for hash.

I'm getting my first Vapman (Cherry Click) this weekend and am so so so so excited to try it with this stubborn hash. I've always heard Vapman and Hash go together like peanut butter and jelly, and my fingers are crossed that it's true. Any tips?

 

[SlickHenry]

I'm getting my first Vapman (Cherry Click) this weekend and am so so so so excited to try it with this stubborn hash. I've always heard Vapman and Hash go together like peanut butter and jelly, and my fingers are crossed that it's true. Any tips?

So I have not used my Click for hash as I prefer the smaller bowl of my OG Swiss Vapman but it should be just as effective. Make sure you get the concentrate screen, which keeps the bowl a bit cleaner and reduces the chance or the nozzles getting blocked.

Hash needs hotter temperatures than flower to vaporize and it clicks at quite a low temperature already. For flower I heat till approximately 3 seconds after the click so i'd say you are looking at 4-5 seconds after the click for hash. Just experiment regularly drawing till you get where you want to be.

The taste with hints of the wood is unrivalled . Enjoy!

Edit: I’ve also got good results in the Dynavp. I just put a tiny bit of hemp fibre scrunched up on top of the screen. Break up some hash on the top (if it is softer hash and you are worried about it melting you can put a little hemp fibre on top too), cap on and heat several seconds after the clicks. The hemp fibre keeps it all clean and stops the screen clogging. It also doesn‘t block the airflow. This should work well with other TEDs like the Dani, anvil, vaphits, etc.

 

[Cheebsy]

I say the chameleon hash pipes are the closest to pipe format and also very effective with traditional hash. They do need a big torch (big buddy sized) though for decent results and the learning curve is steep. Flavour is great once you get the technique

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https://chameleonglass.com/product/glenns-briar-glass-pipe/ Anyone tried one of these? RVS in the UK has started stocking them and they sound great but so do a lot of shite devices. Any reports welcome. Thanks in advance.

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[Caketron]

I find my hash to be very stubborn to vaporize in almost anything I try. It's the dry sift variety, if that makes a difference.

I find the same. Do you make your own? Curious about your process if so.

The problem I see with convection devices is hot air just running around the hash without heating it properly, and with conduction devices it clogging the airflow.

I do have moderate success with with both the AVLP and quartz cap from TRWW

 

[Pangolin 6]

Thanks for the replies. I'm not sure I've gotten my vapman hash skills to "convincing" levels yet. However I do have a lotus on the way (whooop!) so I'll definitely be seeing if I can do some convincing with that!

I think the thing about the vaporgenie is it is almost like no change at all, ok some technique but it looks exactly like a hash pipe. The technique is very similar and most of all the similar simplicity of a pipe, a lighter and some material. Vaping is so gear heavy, I think it's easy to forget that sometimes. Also I think some gear is just intimidating or weird looking or looks complicated and this is off-putting to the novice. We forget sometimes, those who are used to investigating these things, that things look bizarre to those unfamiliar. I mean, honestly some of the glass I see on here for example, to me, is crazy complicated, huge, expensive, fragile, consuming of time and space - obvs two years from now I will have a massive collection of crazy glass pieces which are folded through a forth dimension and have coloured spikes everywhere (even someplaces that are nowhere!) Not to mention the one with the water glass and various wooden blocks with tubes sticking out or just a pocket full of batteries etc etc.

Anyway, I think I will ask my question in the vaporgenie thread too and see what is said in there.

Keep on puffin!

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

I think the only issue with converting someone with a device like the vapor genie is that if the new user is underwhelmed by the effects and/or throat hit of vapor, he might just keep pushing and combust. Perhaps even without noticing it.
This kind of device does have a learning curve so if your friend is not set on vaporizing he might just use the device wrongly and combust in his VG.

 

[Pangolin 6]

I think the only issue with converting someone with a device like the vapor genie is that if the new user is underwhelmed by the effects and/or throat hit of vapor, he might just keep pushing and combust. Perhaps even without noticing it.
This kind of device does have a learning curve so if your friend is not set on vaporizing he might just use the device wrongly and combust in his VG.

It's a good point. They want to vape, I know they do...but not sure I could convert them with battery power. Slowly, slowly that's the way I suppose.

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

They want to vape, I know they do...

If that's what they want then they'll learn !

 

[Pangolin 6]

If that's what they want then they'll learn !

Oh yeah but they don't know yet....

 

[maremaresing]

Lee from tabletop bong has a nice video about how he uses traditional hash with the Fusion 2.0. It's convincing, for sure.

On that point, something like the Fusion is so bulletproof in design and technique, along with delivering sure clouds and full spectrum effects, that I'd feel comfortable putting it in the hands of a vape newbie. It's hard to combust in without going way way past the click, too.

I've used hash in mine with okay results. Not sure if it's the hash or the device or me, but the dry sift is different than the gummy traditional hash.

This kind of device does have a learning curve so if your friend is not set on vaporizing he might just use the device wrongly and combust in his VG.

This is true. I've said many times that the VG was my first introduction to vaping, while in a smoke circle. Personally, my first draw was perfect, as I nailed the technique and got the typical VG massive rip. I had to look at the owner to check because it was so smooth, but looked like a smoke cloud, and he was thrilled all "that's it! you got it!". Then I went to space.

So a newbie can get it, but might not expect that they got it until 10 minutes later. I usually tell people to exhale with light at their back, past a darker surface/area/shadow, so that they can fully gauge the visuals.