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[DaVapeGuy]

Jcvap have adaptor cords now I got them to make
Two cords for either direction or coil/PID configuration you need to make fit
No more apple connection type issues between manufacturers pids and coils
Reasonably priced too

JCVAP Universal PID/coil adaptor cord - JCVAP®|Official Store

These adaptor cords will make it possible to use any PID controller with any coil despite the wiring configuration.Adapt to 110V-220V Voltage. Two options available : Type1:MaleT-,T+,G,P,P, G/Female P,P,T+,T-,G or Type2:Male P,P,T+,T-,G /Female T-,T+,G,P,P

jcvap.com

Doesn't work with qshop?

 

[felvapes]

Doesn't work with qshop?

Aren't qshop wired like the Chinese pids?
Or are they different again?
I thought there was only two wiring styles

 

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

Doesn't work with qshop?

It offers adapter for both directions, type 1 should work for Qaroma

 

[DaVapeGuy]

Aren't qshop wired like the Chinese pids?
Or are they different again?
I thought there was only two wiring styles

It offers adapter for both directions, type 1 should work for Qaroma

From the description:

Two options available :

Male – P, P, T+, T-, G/Female – P, P, G, T+, T-

or

Male – P, P, G, T+, T-/Female – P, P, T+, T-, G

Qshop:

QaromaShop 20mm Heater Coil

Qaromashop 20mm Heater Coil. Please double check if your coil pinout matches ours? Please select 110V or 220V? If you are not familiar with the different pinouts in the market, it is highly recommended that you purchase full kits instead. Do NOT use

www.qaromashop.com

Coil (Male 5 pin XLR connector) PIN 1 = TC-, PIN 2 = TC+, PIN 3 = GND, PIN 4 = AC-, PIN 5 = AC+

Is qshop just listing their coil in reverse? If so type 1 would work

 

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

From the description:

Two options available :

Male – P, P, T+, T-, G/Female – P, P, G, T+, T-

or

Male – P, P, G, T+, T-/Female – P, P, T+, T-, G

Qshop:

QaromaShop 20mm Heater Coil

Qaromashop 20mm Heater Coil. Please double check if your coil pinout matches ours? Please select 110V or 220V? If you are not familiar with the different pinouts in the market, it is highly recommended that you purchase full kits instead. Do NOT use

www.qaromashop.com

Coil (Male 5 pin XLR connector) PIN 1 = TC-, PIN 2 = TC+, PIN 3 = GND, PIN 4 = AC-, PIN 5 = AC+

Is qshop just listing their coil in reverse? If so type 1 would work

I actually went off the ground pin, which is the center pin in the Qaroma pid and the last pin in the Auber/DC/710coils

 

[felvapes]

I actually went off the ground pin, which is the center pin in the Qaroma pid and the last pin in the Auber/DC/710coils

Yea I have messaged him to check
It may be a typo on the website
I will make sure he knows the correct way
His PIDs are wor d Chinese style so I think the adaptors should be correct

 

[RedZep]

How does the airflow/resistance compare between TKO and B0?

I'm so intrigued by TKO now.

 

[shroomi]

Just joined the ball vape fam less than a couple of weeks ago and boy, what a change! Until november last year I had used just a Mighty and a Volcano. I was stuck with the wrong assumption that I already owned the best devices on the market.
Then took a ride on this forum and everything changed, bought a Tinymight 2, and then the most budget option for a ball vape: the Tiodw, and relative accessories on Ali.
Boy, how wrong I was. To me, vaporized weed tasted good the first hit, then the plastic German device turned everything to popcorn, as you well know. Slightly better with the volcano, but that thing is kinda boring and clumsy at times to use.
Talking about flavor here. I know titanium is not the best option flavor-wise, but for now I'm trying to keep expenses as low as I can (lie!), and I'm waiting for the V3 ceramic housing the Ali guy told me is on the way. But regardless, a world of difference between the almost all-glass pathway of a baller and the plastic of the volcano.
Of course Qaroma and Ceroma are in my radar, but shipping and taxes bring up costs just a bit too much for me now. I know I will eventually buy a quartz housing, but I know also that I have a tough relationship with glass in general, I think I broke 5 or 6 TM stems in 3 months.

For now the titanium Tiodw is perfect. I got the regular version, I use it mostly in the 666-700f range through a dry recycler. Efficiency is incredible, everything gets extracted in a few pulls; we're talking a 10 minute session with the volcano, the endless balloon filling waiting game and the crackling plastic that accompanies the whole experience. No more!
So for the price it's a fantastic option, costs can be brought down even further with the mini housing which is nice.

 

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

Just joined the ball vape fam less than a couple of weeks ago and boy, what a change! Until november last year I had used just a Mighty and a Volcano. I was stuck with the wrong assumption that I already owned the best devices on the market.
Then took a ride on this forum and everything changed, bought a Tinymight 2, and then the most budget option for a ball vape: the Tiodw, and relative accessories on Ali.
Boy, how wrong I was. To me, vaporized weed tasted good the first hit, then the plastic German device turned everything to popcorn, as you well know. Slightly better with the volcano, but that thing is kinda boring and clumsy at times to use.
Talking about flavor here. I know titanium is not the best option flavor-wise, but for now I'm trying to keep expenses as low as I can (lie!), and I'm waiting for the V3 ceramic housing the Ali guy told me is on the way. But regardless, a world of difference between the almost all-glass pathway of a baller and the plastic of the volcano.
Of course Qaroma and Ceroma are in my radar, but shipping and taxes bring up costs just a bit too much for me now. I know I will eventually buy a quartz housing, but I know also that I have a tough relationship with glass in general, I think I broke 5 or 6 TM stems in 3 months.

For now the titanium Tiodw is perfect. I got the regular version, I use it mostly in the 666-700f range through a dry recycler. Efficiency is incredible, everything gets extracted in a few pulls; we're talking a 10 minute session with the volcano, the endless balloon filling waiting game and the crackling plastic that accompanies the whole experience. No more!
So for the price it's a fantastic option, costs can be brought down even further with the mini housing which is nice.

There's also the Zeal by iDB and the ZX by invertedisdead, both affordable options in Zirconia. Both iDB and invertedisdead also have a stainless steel version that are affordable. I personally am interested in the zirconia over ceramic and the steel over ti.

 

[Oden]

Just joined the ball vape fam less than a couple of weeks ago and boy, what a change! Until november last year I had used just a Mighty and a Volcano. I was stuck with the wrong assumption that I already owned the best devices on the market.
Then took a ride on this forum and everything changed, bought a Tinymight 2, and then the most budget option for a ball vape: the Tiodw, and relative accessories on Ali.
Boy, how wrong I was. To me, vaporized weed tasted good the first hit, then the plastic German device turned everything to popcorn, as you well know. Slightly better with the volcano, but that thing is kinda boring and clumsy at times to use.
Talking about flavor here. I know titanium is not the best option flavor-wise, but for now I'm trying to keep expenses as low as I can (lie!), and I'm waiting for the V3 ceramic housing the Ali guy told me is on the way. But regardless, a world of difference between the almost all-glass pathway of a baller and the plastic of the volcano.
Of course Qaroma and Ceroma are in my radar, but shipping and taxes bring up costs just a bit too much for me now. I know I will eventually buy a quartz housing, but I know also that I have a tough relationship with glass in general, I think I broke 5 or 6 TM stems in 3 months.

For now the titanium Tiodw is perfect. I got the regular version, I use it mostly in the 666-700f range through a dry recycler. Efficiency is incredible, everything gets extracted in a few pulls; we're talking a 10 minute session with the volcano, the endless balloon filling waiting game and the crackling plastic that accompanies the whole experience. No more!
So for the price it's a fantastic option, costs can be brought down even further with the mini housing which is nice.

This seller on Aliexpress will soon offer zirconia ceramic head.

Comment le débit d'air/résistance se compare-t-il entre TKO et B0 ?

The TKO is a little more open than the b0 but with the max airflow cap

 

[bestvaping]

There's also the Zeal by iDB and the ZX by invertedisdead, both affordable options in Zirconia. Both iDB and invertedisdead also have a stainless steel version that are affordable. I personally am interested in the zirconia over ceramic and the steel over ti.

Can you share a link to these vaporizers? Is it on Ali?

 

[Abele Rizieri Ferrari]

Can you share a link to these vaporizers? Is it on Ali?

From Phase3 invertedisdead:

ZX: https://www.gophase3.com/ZX-Zirconia-Ceramic-Heater-3MM-RUBY-Limited-Pre-Order-p533370835

SX: https://www.gophase3.com/SX-316L-Stainless-Steel-Filter-3MM-RUBY-Limited-Pre-Order-p522976594

FC thread with more info:

Phase3 Vaporizers

You might be waiting a while :lol: Yep my patience has limits 🤣🤣, but who knows he might surprise us like with this unexpected ZX pre-order 😁. I would take the Z8 for sure, because I don't see the point for me in a logical way, to take a ZX when they are identical in terms of performance and...

fuckcombustion.com

From Cloud Connoisseur iDB:

Zeal: https://cloud-connoisseur.company.site/Zeal-p524102847

Stainless one doesn't have a link yet.

FC thread with more info: https://fuckcombustion.com/threads/cloud-connoisseur-glass.51860/page-28

 

[Vaporware]

I have a Z8, and while I don’t have other “ballers” to compare it to I wouldn’t hesitate to get in on the ZX pre-order if I needed another desktop!

 

[felvapes]

The zeal interests me atm
The diffuser design sounds good too

 

[Oden]

The zeal interests me atm
The diffuser design sounds good too

I doubt the Zeal will be as effective as the diffuser style of the TKO.
It will be like b1 and b2..
But I'm going to take a zeal because in the future I would like to remove as much metal as possible from my vape.
The perfect head would be a full Zirc TKO head

 

[felvapes]

I doubt the Zeal will be as effective as the diffuser style of the TKO.
It will be like b1 and b2..
But I'm going to take a zeal because in the future I would like to remove as much metal as possible from my vape.
The perfect head would be a full Zirc TKO head

Will depend how well it seats and seals too I guess
My diy female is pretty even extraction, but being a gog on gog joint it's a perfect seal too
Thats one thing with my diy glass ones is that they use a metal screen to keep the balls in place, also one thing that was holding me back on the zx zirc one too knowing the zeal is coming and has no screen afaik

 

[Oden]

Will depend how well it seats and seals too I guess
My diy female is pretty even extraction, but being a gog on gog joint it's a perfect seal too
Thats one thing with my diy glass ones is that they use a metal screen to keep the balls in place, also one thing that was holding me back on the zx zirc one too knowing the zeal is coming and has no screen afaik

This is a misconception. The zeal has an SS screen on the bottom, but apparently idb is working on a zirconia screen so people can choose the mesh they want, or machined holes for airflow. Adding the screen machined in one piece would have increased the price considerably.

Zaroma is officially currently the only metal-free zirconia head.
But the price is salty lol

 

[felvapes]

This is a misconception. The zeal has an SS screen on the bottom, but apparently idb is working on a zirconia screen so people can choose the mesh they want, or machined holes for airflow. Adding the screen machined in one piece would have increased the price considerably.

Zaroma is officially currently the only metal-free zirconia head.
But the price is salty lol

Ah cool cheers for the clarification
I wasn't sure

 

[felvapes]

From the description:

Two options available :

Male – P, P, T+, T-, G/Female – P, P, G, T+, T-

or

Male – P, P, G, T+, T-/Female – P, P, T+, T-, G

Qshop:

QaromaShop 20mm Heater Coil

Qaromashop 20mm Heater Coil. Please double check if your coil pinout matches ours? Please select 110V or 220V? If you are not familiar with the different pinouts in the market, it is highly recommended that you purchase full kits instead. Do NOT use

www.qaromashop.com

Coil (Male 5 pin XLR connector) PIN 1 = TC-, PIN 2 = TC+, PIN 3 = GND, PIN 4 = AC-, PIN 5 = AC+

Is qshop just listing their coil in reverse? If so type 1 would work

I have now confirmed that the adaptor cords are wired correctly and it was a typo
They are P, P, T+, T-, G to T-, T+, G, P, P and vice versa

So Auber/USA to China/Qshop and back again

 

[whatitdew]

I have a full B1 setup, but I reach for the CC Halo 9/10
Its just faster heat up and cooldown. I don’t like to leave the B1 on when not in use.
can’t see needing more power than what it provides

I want to try the TKO

And also maybe get another CC device as I like this Halo. Not even sure how you order these things now, I think he is doing drops now instead of preorder?

 

[Shit Snacks]

I have a full B1 setup, but I reach for the CC Halo 9/10
Its just faster heat up and cooldown. I don’t like to leave the B1 on when not in use.
can’t see needing more power than what it provides

I want to try the TKO

And also maybe get another CC device as I like this Halo. Not even sure how you order these things now, I think he is doing drops now instead of preorder?

Yeah now he has the website up and running, so he is going to finish all pre-orders and then move to batch drops of his own design, maybe no more customs? We'll see...

 

[Oden]

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Je veux essayer le TKO

You will love the TKO once you get it.
He is amazing and so versatile.
It's a beast.
I often hear people say it's the most expensive bead vape but that's not true lol.
Bowls can be very inexpensive as the TKO head works great with simple glass adapters with an 18mm female connection.
These are my favorite bowls right now. With a 3/4 size SS screen you will be able to bring the grass extremely close to the diffuser for optimal efficiency.
The only flaw with these adapters is that you can't use them hands-free.

I hope o'connell will give in to zircon ceramics and make us a ceramic TKO head

 

[rageweary]

Hope I'm not breaking any rules. Is there a dedicated TKO thread? I tried searching for it but had no luck

 

[Grass Yes]

Hope I'm not breaking any rules. Is there a dedicated TKO thread? I tried searching for it but had no luck

It does not have a dedicated thread. It's been discussed here and on the O'Connell Vapes thread:

O'Connell Woodworks Vaporizers

What screen size is recommended for the OHV, the 3/4" or 5/8" - thanks. I use 3/4"

fuckcombustion.com

 

[rageweary]

I don't have the B0.
But my TKO is an amazing vape.
It made me forget all my Qshop XL heads!
You can't go wrong with it.
Everyone who has owned a B-series vaporizer, whom I asked about a comparison with the TKO, was unanimous in saying that the TKO is a superior vape.
More consistent hits, better flavors, no heat loss between hits...
I also find my TKO smoother than my old Qs.
Personally I am completely satisfied.

Damn that has me so intrigued