Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[Kins]

Capping lowers the pressure inside (which leads to a lower boiling point for extraction) and slightly increases temp. Some people cap all the time, I usually use it for the last hit of the bowl to finish strong and get full extraction.

I understood it like it's like the carb hole for a pipe, when you want to take in some smoke you keep your finger on it and then let go once you a full pipe or bong full and you will clean the pipe or bong chamber. Older bongs like when I used to smoke in the late 80's and 90's had a carb hole. With the newer ones the bong slide works the same or you breath in while lighting the bowl and pull out the bowl(same as taking your finger off the carb hole. When you pull out the bowl you clear the chamber.

Sorry, maybe I never really understood it that well.

 

[Zangano Cruel]

I understood it like it's like the carb hole for a pipe, when you want to take in some smoke you keep your finger on it and then let go once you a full pipe or bong full and you will clean the pipe or bong chamber. Older bongs like when I used to smoke in the late 80's and 90's had a carb hole. With the newer ones the bong slide works the same or you breath in while lighting the bowl and pull out the bowl(same as taking your finger off the carb hole. When you pull out the bowl you clear the chamber.

Sorry, maybe I never really understood it that well.

Yes.
You’re not understanding it I believe.
Have you ever dabbed before???
If you don’t cap while dabbing, most likely you aren’t getting good results, or you aren’t doing it the way that provides the proved good results.
If you’re not capping it’s like dabbing old school high temperatures nail/dome combo style, too hot and almost smoking the oils, instead of vaping them.

Capping is not like clearing a glass pipe from vapors/smoke with a carb hole, nor lifting the slide from the glass joint.
Capping a combustion environment will definitely put off the fire/combustion.

Capping a vaping/dabbing environment will actually help/improve the experience if you’re careful and follow some easy steps.

As someone explained you before, a few posts before, it’s all about physics.
It’s like putting the lid on a pot of boiling water, or putting the lid on any kind of pan cooking.
By putting a lid on a closed environment heating process, you’ll be lowering the pressure of the enclosed heated system, thus, by physics, you’ll be....
(too long for me to explain, and I lack the studies that professionals went through to explain it this way)
Here’s a kind of a boring link explaining all...

Thermodynamics article (article) | Khan Academy

www.khanacademy.org

and here’s a stoner point of view...
It’s kind of biased towards their branded products, but mostly everyone does the same if you Google “what physically happens when you cap a dab”.
Almost same principles goes to capping a WeedEater, ShowerHead or VROD for flower only, just practice your technique and you’ll be ok.
Disclaimer, I’m not promoting nor associated with the links I just posted.

Why Do You Cap a Dab? - DankStop

Back in the day, before there were e-nails and before the increasing availability of quartz bangers, dab rigs would come

dankstop.com

Stay vaped.
Mantente de la mente!!!

 

[somethingcool]

Pressure affects boiling and vaporization temperature, for example if you go up to 10,000 feet altitude, water boils at 194 F instead of the normal 212 F at sea level.

Just like water on a stove, we are boiling and then vaporizing THC and other cannabinoids out of the plant material so we can inhale them, like breathing steam above a boiling water pot.

Putting a carb cap on the bowl while you inhale is like sucking all the air out of your kitchen suddenly, so it's like you're at 10,000 feet or higher. Now your water boils at a lower temp. Same with the weed, with the carb cap on you get the same extraction (boiling and vaporization) at a lower temp.

And I agree with @Zangano Cruel you should always carb cap with concentrates on the Vrod.

 

[WelshBrok]

So people are using the carb cap for hits with flower and the weed eater head?. I think I tried that once...Does it give better hits that way? I might have thought so but I read on here that most people only use the carb cap when "twaxing".

I have the weedeater top bit (so I can switch between the two) but I primarily use the rev1 VROD head (flower only as I have 710coils setup for concentrates) and the cap permanently lives on the head and I leave 2-3 terp pearls in there (would actually take them out for dabbing/twax )

Might be placebo but I feel the pearls cause more turbulence to the air being pulled through the vrod (maybe reducing laminar flow and the “streamtube effect”) and kind of help to pre-heat it. The cap being heat soaked helps that too. Then I sit around 555 on the auber, two hits and a third for cleanup. I also like that you can really hit it as fast as you can draw the air through and with cap and pearls it still white walls the glass.

 

[RiskyRaccoon]

I have the NV hempwick enail handle, and I am looking for something to wrap around the handle. This winter my right hand is extremely cracked b/c the enail handle is too hot. any recommendations? It would be cool to see 3rd party stuff too. Thanks

 

[invertedisdead]

The pressure change experienced by using a carb cap is never that much, because the air inlet itself prevents you from ever pulling any considerable vacuum. Now if the cap had no inlet hole, you could actually draw the air out, but it wouldn't be comfortable to use, as human lungs lack the PSI of a commercial vacuum pump.

If you think about a classic carburetor, these caps themselves are more of an air/fuel regulator, this decreases dilution of air to vapor, and increases the residence time the air spends heating when traveling through the heat pipes. If using a VROD, you already have around half of the heated surface area of a WE, which is why capping is more commonly associated with VROD users.

Modern carb cap designs put emphasis on spinning the air - this is mainly because Quartz bangers continue to get larger in diameter, while the material itself has low conductivity, so it doesn't heat evenly. Spinning the air is a way to compensate for uneven heating of the vapor surface. If you break down the thermodynamics of any modern banger design, there are some glaring flaws in the physics, especially airflow, which I believe ultimately leads to inefficiency and waste.

 

[Kins]

Dang. Thanks everyone for your explanations. That's pretty awesome of you.

 

[710yota]

I have the NV hempwick enail handle, and I am looking for something to wrap around the handle. This winter my right hand is extremely cracked b/c the enail handle is too hot. any recommendations? It would be cool to see 3rd party stuff too. Thanks

Back on page 739 you can see that @snackmaster (very dope name by the same, that was my trail name on the PCT but that's another topic) used 1.5mm leather cord to wrap the handle in place of the hemp wick if your just looking for a alternative. I am confused about your handle getting hot though, mine stays cool enough to handle even if I've left my Flower Pot on 700f all day and I've seen people run the handle bare with no wrap at all.

 

[Bad Dog]

Maybe he put it on himself and has it too far up? To close to the coil end?

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

do folks prefer the deeper glass bowls? The deeper ones seem to be .25" deeper. Originally the thought was to keep the depth of the screen .5" in an effort the allow the community to have consistent experiences. The shovelhead bowl is set to .5" I hope everyone is doing well.

 

[Bad Dog]

do folks prefer the deeper glass bowls? The deeper ones seem to be .25" deeper. Originally the thought was to keep the depth of the screen .5" in an effort the allow the community to have consistent experiences. The shovelhead bowl is set to .5" I hope everyone is doing well.

Personally what I like best about the glass bowl is how wonderful it is for small bowls between .05g-.1g something you can consume in its entirety in one hit for me that's closer to .05g. As a micro doser I would even like the see a smaller shallow glass bowl so small loads are closer to the heater but something like that wouldn't have as broad of a appeal and is perhaps a bit more niche. For me if I want a bigger bowl I use my shovelhead bowl, I'd rather have more space to stir then overload My glass bowl. While I do think the glass taste a bit better I'm not a super flavor snob and the titanium is better than acceptable, it's fine so for me the smaller size of the glass is why it always passed the reach test. If both bowls were the same size you might sell more glass then titanium because of its cheaper price, but long run you'll have more complaints about broken bowls to deal with from people who weren't as cautious as the should have been.

 

[RiskyRaccoon]

Maybe he put it on himself and has it too far up? To close to the coil end?

it was installed by NewVape, it's possible they goofed up but idk. It gets very warm but not too hot to touch.

Back on page 739 you can see that @snackmaster (very dope name by the same, that was my trail name on the PCT but that's another topic) used 1.5mm leather cord to wrap the handle in place of the hemp wick if your just looking for a alternative. I am confused about your handle getting hot though, mine stays cool enough to handle even if I've left my Flower Pot on 700f all day and I've seen people run the handle bare with no wrap at all.

that looks cool, although idk if it will help all that much w/ the heat situation. I'll look into some thicker leather straps I can wrap around it though, thanks!

 

[Bad Dog]

it was installed by NewVape, it's possible they goofed up but idk. It gets very warm but not too hot to touch.

If it was installed by New Vape it's fine a mistake like that for them would be like the dalai lama forgetting how to meditate Strange yours gets warm though? I used to leave mine on all day and it was barely warmer than room temperature. What's your pid setting?

 

[RiskyRaccoon]

If it was installed by New Vape it's fine a mistake like that for them would be like the dalai lama forgetting how to meditate Strange yours gets warm though? I used to leave mine on all day and it was barely warmer than room temperature. What's your pid setting?

675 at the end of my sesh. it does get warm enough that it feels uncomfortable to hold so hopefully it isn't some other issue w/ the nail, I got it just a couple months ago. thinking of wrapping the handle in cotton webbing

 

[Bad Dog]

675 at the end of my sesh. it does get warm enough that it feels uncomfortable to hold so hopefully it isn't some other issue w/ the nail, I got it just a couple months ago. thinking of wrapping the handle in cotton webbing

That is only slightly hotter than my usual temp of 666. It's not giving you any other problems like the vapor being to hot or strong? I'm sure I don't have to tell you can turn it down and adjust your draw but that temperature should not be causing the handle to be uncomfortable. Just for a laugh how long is the rod from the heater head to the handle? Mine looks like a inch and a half

 

[fak]

do folks prefer the deeper glass bowls? The deeper ones seem to be .25" deeper. Originally the thought was to keep the depth of the screen .5" in an effort the allow the community to have consistent experiences. The shovelhead bowl is set to .5" I hope everyone is doing well.

the deeper the better XD sometimes I really pack that bowl (to my detriment), would be lovely to have a similar size in glass but I see what you mean with the similar experience. If you could somehow replicate the shovelhead in glass it would be perfect and I would have no complaints

Edit (for context): I haven't used anything other then the Ti bowl and I am just thinking out loud

 

[west-elec]

do folks prefer the deeper glass bowls? The deeper ones seem to be .25" deeper. Originally the thought was to keep the depth of the screen .5" in an effort the allow the community to have consistent experiences. The shovelhead bowl is set to .5" I hope everyone is doing well.

For me I say no. I agree with @Bad Dog the glass bowl is a 1 hitter. They aren't well suited to stirring, so any extra depth gets messy. Are you saying they will be 0.25 deeper than the shovelhead? If so, that is too deep.

 

[delta hotel]

All this talk of the bowl depths and I actually came to ask where the user that had that basket screen in upside down, then the regular screen on top of that to move the material closer to the heat, got the basket screen.

 

[Bad Dog]

All this talk of the bowl depths and I actually came to ask where the user that had that basket screen in upside down, then the regular screen on top of that to move the material closer to the heat, got the basket screen.

Sounds like your looking for @The Stray Fox ? Hopefully he'll see my tag and let you know

 

[The Stray Fox]

All this talk of the bowl depths and I actually came to ask where the user that had that basket screen in upside down, then the regular screen on top of that to move the material closer to the heat, got the basket screen.

Thanks @Bad Dog. You should try this technique. It’s very easy to microdose at low temps and get fast extraction. Its the closet I’ve found to a one hit personal bong rip.

‘Twas me @delta hotel. I use a standard 18mm basket screen. You can get them here. Let us know how it works out. I’ve been using my VRod like this for over a year now. I’ve still got my fingers crossed NV will make a bowl with different depths.

https://www.ddavemods.com/store/p17/18mm_Basket_Screen_Refill_Pack.html

Awesome I’m guessing you used digital calipers?

Sorry my friend, I just saw this. I did not but I do have some if you want a recheck.

 

[RiskyRaccoon]

That is only slightly hotter than my usual temp of 666. It's not giving you any other problems like the vapor being to hot or strong? I'm sure I don't have to tell you can turn it down and adjust your draw but that temperature should not be causing the handle to be uncomfortable. Just for a laugh how long is the rod from the heater head to the handle? Mine looks like a inch and a half

mine is a tad bit further out so it should be in better shape as far as heat goes:

https://imgur.com/BTegjQX

 

[Kins]

do folks prefer the deeper glass bowls? The deeper ones seem to be .25" deeper. Originally the thought was to keep the depth of the screen .5" in an effort the allow the community to have consistent experiences. The shovelhead bowl is set to .5" I hope everyone is doing well.

I think I'm the only guy that wants bigger bowls. I like being able to load up the bowl and just leisurely hit throughout the night. Even if I have to mix. I enjoy that whole experience.

 

[RustyOldNail]

The NV Shovelhead bowl is .5” deep, and .75” wide. I just did a quick test load of BCG fine grind, using the NV pax loading tool, SEVEN scoops x .1, full to top of titanium bowl. I’m more then fine with the size, as I would never fill mine more then half way. The original glass bowl with handle holds less, and I use that sometimes.

Kins, sounds like you need a HOOKAH....

 

[delta hotel]

Thanks @Bad Dog. You should try this technique. It’s very easy to microdose at low temps and get fast extraction. Its the closet I’ve found to a one hit personal bong rip.

‘Twas me @delta hotel. I use a standard 18mm basket screen. You can get them here. Let us know how it works out. I’ve been using my VRod like this for over a year now. I’ve still got my fingers crossed NV will make a bowl with different depths.

https://www.ddavemods.com/store/p17/18mm_Basket_Screen_Refill_Pack.html

Ordered a set of these screens, thank you!

 

[cvs8floz]

do folks prefer the deeper glass bowls? The deeper ones seem to be .25" deeper. Originally the thought was to keep the depth of the screen .5" in an effort the allow the community to have consistent experiences. The shovelhead bowl is set to .5" I hope everyone is doing well.

I have several versions of the glass bowl, 2 directly from China and the ones NV used to resell. They are all slightly different, some fit tighter, some are taller. I prefer the taller ones that fit tightly, you can load as much or as little as you want, you can load up to 4 scoops or as little as to just cover the bottom. I also prefer when the head sits on the bowl straight instead of tilting, a lot of this depends on where the handle is located, you want the bottom of the bowl to rest on the handle if possible and you want a nice tight fit.