The Nomad From Morwood

Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
Still, we don't hear from the 24 other users much... :shrug:

I agree. I've been wishing for more user reviews and updates.
I'd assumed that, as this is such a niche, "culty", botique product at the moment, that the early adopters would all be talking about and sharing all the details of, their experience and difference in technique, etc., with each other and the rest of us.

I've seen a post here or there, but not much:shrug:
 

Dynavaper

Karma Farmer
I'd assumed that, as this is such a niche, "culty", botique product at the moment, that the early adopters would all be talking about and sharing all the details of, their experience and difference in technique, etc., with each other and the rest of us.

I've seen a post here or there, but not much

Let's provoke them:
I guess that the Nomad mostly looks great, but is not so enormously satisfying as everybody expected. It's probably just a beautiful piece of art with mediocre functional aspect.

(duck and cover, let the reviews come! ;))
 

duff

Well worn
Consider me poked!

Not sure why folks haven't been reporting on performance.

I continue to get tremendous results from both heaters, although I prefer the low-medium one for flavor and a more relaxing session.

I'm interested in trying the magnet button configuration as the original button does take some strength.

While the first hit with the lower heater does take some button time to get going, once everything is heated up hits come very quickly and are quite delicious.

I typically run 2 stems through a battery before switching. Not because I have to bur just because that's what I do for all of my 18650 vapes. I haven't tested to see exactly how many stems I can get on a charge.

I've extensively tried both packing methods. For ease I greatly prefer packing stems with a screen in the vape so that there is only the single screen in the stem. The two screen method works well but is a bit more fiddly.

Disassembly is a breeze and you get access to everything. Reassembly is pretty easy too except for the screw in the button housing that you access through the battery hole. Occasionally, it takes a few tries to get the threading correct on the screw.

The vape is aging beautifully and really is a joy to fondle.
 

Copacetic

Somewhere North of The Wall
I freely admit that looks are very important to me in this case, and that Dan's attention to detail in that regard was a big draw for me to get a Nomad.
But even in this case function comes first (besides which, the best aesthetics are almost always born of good functional design anyway, IMO).
So it's great to hear from actual owners re' real world use @duff and @KeroZen, thanks.
That's not to say that I have any doubts re' this vape.
My only anxiety comes from IMPATIENCE
But work of this calibre cannot be rushed.
It's fantastic to see all those pic's though, really brings the process to life.
 

MonkeyTime

Well-Known Member
I freely admit that looks are very important to me in this case, and that Dan's attention to detail in that regard was a big draw for me to get a Nomad.
But even in this case function comes first (besides which, the best aesthetics are almost always born of good functional design anyway, IMO).
So it's great to hear from actual owners re' real world use @duff and @KeroZen, thanks.
That's not to say that I have any doubts re' this vape.
My only anxiety comes from IMPATIENCE
But work of this calibre cannot be rushed.
It's fantastic to see all those pic's though, really brings the process to life.
The waiting was MUCH easier before the update wasn't it! I'm still looking at buttons trying to guess which might be mine :mental:
 

mopey_zoo_lion

Active Member
#24 here. Part of the reason I haven't been piping up too much here is because I don't have the wealth of experience most users on this forum seem to have. I only started partaking shortly before legalization in my state, and started with a MFLB, moved to a 1st gen Dynavap M, and then as soon as I found out about the, at the time, RM-1 (Still dig that, BTW), I knew what I was going to set my sights on. Vaporizers didn't seem at all similar to the cool, unique glass pieces my friends have, so the opportunity to get something I could actually use and that didn't look like just another gadget off the assembly line really grabbed me. It was quite a leap, but I definitely don't regret it. Sorry, that was a lot of unnecessary exposition.

I like this vape a lot. I've just figured somethings out about it that have really improved the experience recently, too, mostly in regards to load compression. Upon receipt the dual screen loading method was initially dismaying, and I switched to the single screen method as soon as possible, but found that inconvenient for swapping away from home, as you couldn't really pack a stem with just one screen to go. So I eventually switched back to the dual screen method. Initially I was only getting good results with filling the stem and compressing the load a fair amount between them. @KeroZen , it may interest you to know the main benefit I feel like I got out of this was restricted airflow, thus helping maintain the low draw speed that was initially helpful to have with the low heater module, which I use at this point pretty much exclusively. I recently started packing the stems significantly looser, and with a very slow inhale I've found I now get much better hits with better reliability, and what seems to be a more uniform AVB. However, it felt like I really only got a few effective pulls off a battery before things started to taper off. So I went back to the single screen, as this brought the load closer to the heater, but with a loose pack this time. Now I can get several big hits before I start to notice much degradation of power. I can't imagine that slight adjustment in distance can 100% account for this improvement, but it seems to help, while sacrificing portability.

Unloading is a little bit fussy, but I believe that'll be the case with most stem vapes like this, so I can't really fault it. With the single screen ideally I ought to be able to just shake it out with out too much effort, but I almost always have to push the screen down with a bamboo skewer to eject the load. I'm looking into figuring out some kind of spittoon situation. Regardless, on the go it requires me to have some other thing on hand to deal with it, as opposed to the MFLB I can just dump out, and the VapCap has the digger bit on the cap. I want to emphasize again, this is a small gripe.

Weirdly enough if I had one complaint about flavor, it's that it's pretty darn solid all the way through. plenty of times I've been pulling on this thing without realizing it's been cached. So... No complaints about flavor at all. It's awesome.

Kind of a weird category, I guess, but walking? Anyway, using while walking with the way I've currently got things configured is a little tricky, and frequently hit or miss. Keeping my breathing slow enough to get a good hit with the low heater module is tricky while in motion. I suspect this will be an area to explore with the higher heat module.

Finally, there's the wear. I'll try to take some photos to upload soon. I know a lot of people were talking about wanting to baby theirs and keep them pristine, but as soon as I saw this thing I knew it was going to live in my pocket and build up some history. The brass bottom plate and track have built up some nice patina. I particularly enjoy the shine they have in high-friction areas with the sleeve. The back plate curiously enough started to really take on some nice patina from the way I was holding it, then it kind of disappeared. My acrylic lens is shockingly still unblemished. The paper sleeve is mostly only exhibiting wear on the corners. The brown base is showing through the patterned top layer. I view this as acceptable and expected.

Thanks, and I hope this helps folks.
 

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
@mopey_zoo_lion: awesome mate! Thank you for the share!

I second the "pulling on this thing without realizing it's been cashed", I think I already made that comment too. The ABV / popcorn taste can be so light on this one (due to the very gentle roasting?) it's easy to miss that the time is up! Again also probably related to the fact the ABV ends up lighter than in other vapes... oh well, I already tried to express this thought a few pages back and I still don't know!

Yeah I got to admit it might sound weird to focus on the ability to use a vape while walking... but it's a valid use case, at least for me. I often have a few time windows when I can vape on the street, usually during the commute between my home and the subway station. Or between a client's place and my office... etc.

To unload your stem did you try just simply blowing into it like a trumpet? When outside and when you don't care about the ABV it works fine. Indoors it's a bit trickier to not spill ABV everywhere around the jar hehe.
 

seriousTone

Well-Known Member
#24 here. Part of the reason I haven't been piping up too much here is because I don't have the wealth of experience most users on this forum seem to have. I only started partaking shortly before legalization in my state, and started with a MFLB, moved to a 1st gen Dynavap M, and then as soon as I found out about the, at the time, RM-1 (Still dig that, BTW), I knew what I was going to set my sights on. Vaporizers didn't seem at all similar to the cool, unique glass pieces my friends have, so the opportunity to get something I could actually use and that didn't look like just another gadget off the assembly line really grabbed me. It was quite a leap, but I definitely don't regret it. Sorry, that was a lot of unnecessary exposition.

I like this vape a lot. I've just figured somethings out about it that have really improved the experience recently, too, mostly in regards to load compression. Upon receipt the dual screen loading method was initially dismaying, and I switched to the single screen method as soon as possible, but found that inconvenient for swapping away from home, as you couldn't really pack a stem with just one screen to go. So I eventually switched back to the dual screen method. Initially I was only getting good results with filling the stem and compressing the load a fair amount between them. @KeroZen , it may interest you to know the main benefit I feel like I got out of this was restricted airflow, thus helping maintain the low draw speed that was initially helpful to have with the low heater module, which I use at this point pretty much exclusively. I recently started packing the stems significantly looser, and with a very slow inhale I've found I now get much better hits with better reliability, and what seems to be a more uniform AVB. However, it felt like I really only got a few effective pulls off a battery before things started to taper off. So I went back to the single screen, as this brought the load closer to the heater, but with a loose pack this time. Now I can get several big hits before I start to notice much degradation of power. I can't imagine that slight adjustment in distance can 100% account for this improvement, but it seems to help, while sacrificing portability.

Unloading is a little bit fussy, but I believe that'll be the case with most stem vapes like this, so I can't really fault it. With the single screen ideally I ought to be able to just shake it out with out too much effort, but I almost always have to push the screen down with a bamboo skewer to eject the load. I'm looking into figuring out some kind of spittoon situation. Regardless, on the go it requires me to have some other thing on hand to deal with it, as opposed to the MFLB I can just dump out, and the VapCap has the digger bit on the cap. I want to emphasize again, this is a small gripe.

Weirdly enough if I had one complaint about flavor, it's that it's pretty darn solid all the way through. plenty of times I've been pulling on this thing without realizing it's been cached. So... No complaints about flavor at all. It's awesome.

Kind of a weird category, I guess, but walking? Anyway, using while walking with the way I've currently got things configured is a little tricky, and frequently hit or miss. Keeping my breathing slow enough to get a good hit with the low heater module is tricky while in motion. I suspect this will be an area to explore with the higher heat module.

Finally, there's the wear. I'll try to take some photos to upload soon. I know a lot of people were talking about wanting to baby theirs and keep them pristine, but as soon as I saw this thing I knew it was going to live in my pocket and build up some history. The brass bottom plate and track have built up some nice patina. I particularly enjoy the shine they have in high-friction areas with the sleeve. The back plate curiously enough started to really take on some nice patina from the way I was holding it, then it kind of disappeared. My acrylic lens is shockingly still unblemished. The paper sleeve is mostly only exhibiting wear on the corners. The brown base is showing through the patterned top layer. I view this as acceptable and expected.

Thanks, and I hope this helps folks.

Maybe look into one of these tools from @Ratchett...They'd probably help with loading and unloading stems.

https://delta3dstudios.com/scoop-n-poke-vape-tool-full-length/
https://delta3dstudios.com/scoop-n-stir-vape-tool/
https://delta3dstudios.com/4-way-vaporizer-tool/

I know they're a little pricey but they're so worth it. I originally got the scoop n stir tool for my nano years ago but use it all the time for other vapes.

I'd like to upgrade to that 4 way tool myself one day.
 

Dan Morrison

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
@mopey_zoo_lion , Thanks for your thoughts, much appreciated and helpful!

For load packing, I think loose pack is the way to go. But you don't want any airspace.. you don't want to be able to shake the load around. At least that's my experience.

I wonder, do you have a charger that shows battery voltage? What voltage do you drain your batteries down to before you need to recharge? I go down to about 3.5 v.

And walk-vaping is not something I ever do, so it's been great to hear thoughts on it...I never would have thought about it otherwise! It totally makes sense that some draw restriction would be helpful here to help regulate airspeed. hmm. Seems like a variable draw resistance upgrade is gaining momentum.

The loading system keeps coming up, and that's why I've been focused on trying to find a solution. I think that a capsule loading system could be a nice upgrade.

Here is a rough drawing of what I'm thinking about.

It's basically small glass (or stainless) tubes, with a screen fitted into the tip, and another screen fitted into the wooden (or glass, or stainless) main stem. The two join with a couple O-Rings.

A little twist top carry case could accompany the capsules, with gasket material on the inside so that when the case is twisted closed, the capsules are all sealed air tight.

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With this method, there would be no touching of any screens, and no unloading issues. And loading is as simple as just pushing the stem onto one of the capsules in the case.

Thoughts on material choices??

For the capsule:

Stainless has the advantage of being thin-walled, and so can accommodate a slightly larger diameter chamber. Perhaps the stainless steel screens can also be silver soldered or spot welded to the rim, creating a perfect flush screen that won't ever fall out or fray at the edges.

Stainless also is most durable. And thin-walled capsules will most likely cool off quicker.

Glass has the advantage of looking cool.

For the main stem:

IMO, glass looks the best coming out of the top of the Nomad, so It'll be my aesthetic choice.

Downside to glass is that it can't be machined, so there would need to be a wood or stainless coupling adapter to go between the main stem and the capsule... That's two more O-Rings and one extra part.

Wood looks sweet as well, but with the disadvantage of not being easily cleaned.

Stainless is most durable obviously.

hmm..
 

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
I wouldn't use said capsules. They rob heat, making the vape less efficient. They are a pain to load as you need a funnel or something, you can't just suck the load in. They are a pain to clean, you can't just torch them, they have too many spots where material can get caught. Small parts are easy to lose and require dexterity. And I could go on...

I have capsules for my FlowerMates, never had much success with them for all the reasons above. Had to bump the temperature up to get the same amount of cloudage and it was way slower to produce vapor.

Had a capsule system in the Firewood 2.1 and didn't like it at all either.

But from reading this forum, I know in advance you'll face two camps: the capsule enthusiasts, who love to prepare their "magazine" like they would for a gun, and be settled for the day. They'll likely ask you to produce a capsule holder at some point if you go that route... They are also the ones enjoying vapes like the Haze Square or the Firewood 5 that have multiple bowls.

And the others like me, who really hate the whole thing. Not wanting to pre-load things as it's a source of extra smell (it's already hard enough to conceal a single stash, I live under prohibition I can't afford to have many smelly capsules in my pocket) The material isn't as fresh if you pre-grind it anyway. And well, for all the reasons in the first paragraph above. Sorry for being again the voice of discord...
 
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Vaporware

Well-Known Member
There is a third group; people like me who don’t have capsules for anything but like the idea of easily swappable cartridges of some kind since reloading otherwise requires stopping and taking a bit of time and extra care to unload and load the stem.

To me, this feels like a VapCap type setup where you could just stick on another preloaded tip (if you had multiple tips and caps) on hand.

Also, this design puts the load at least as close to the heater as the two-screen stem method, maybe closer, so I think performance should be fine.

You do make some good points though, especially about loading/unloading. The reason the VapCap is easy to load and unload is the cap comes off. If you had to do it all from the other end, it would be a lot more difficult. The Nomad stem is wider, so it might work out better, but it is a concern for sure.

Personally I won’t be devastated if capsules don’t happen, but if Dan can get them working well, I’d be happy to try them (as well as variable airflow). :)
 

Dan Morrison

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
@KeroZen , We share the same thoughts on stem loading. Two screen stem method is so easy for me I can't think of anything better. But, as a maker I also feel compelled to explore alternatives for those of us here who want something different than the stock form.

Losing the ability to suck the load in, and blow the load out, is a huge dissadvantage for me... so maybe there is a different way to make this so that feature remains...

How are those stainless steel stems treatin' ya? Any performance difference compared to glass?
 

lieutenantlemons

Well-Known Member
I'm assuming that this capsule system will be an added option and not the default? While I can see this being less efficient, I still think it would be a good option for those sessions where you're out and about and not necessarily as concerned with efficiency as much as convenience... but at the same time I feel this adds an unnecessary level of complexity to an otherwise pretty simple vape.
 

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
@Dan Morrison: As long as it stays optional, I have nothing against it. But I wouldn't want that to be the only way to use the Nomad. Will you keep backward compatibility with the current stems?

SS stems are interesting. There are clear differences but at the same time they are subtle. Not worrying about breaking glass would be the #1 advantage though. Many times I only have the Nomad with me, with no other backup vape, and it happened that my backpack fell on the ground from a chair for instance, with the Nomad inside. And I really feared I would find the glass stem broken, preventing me from medicating.

Vapor wise they are slightly cooler. They seem to make the sessions a bit shorter though, as if extraction was faster. They are considerably hotter when you remove them from the vape at the end of the session, you need to wait a bit before removing the screen or you can lightly burn your fingers. It's clear they manage to remove more heat from the vapor than the glass ones, but in return they get warmer and you can feel it on the lips too.
 

Vaporware

Well-Known Member
The design Dan posted seems to either extend the bottom of the stem or replace that section while maintaining the same diameter, so I don’t think the standard stems would be affected.

That reminds me, with the medium-high heater, are the stock stems cool enough for everyone?

If not, has anyone found a good solution? Maybe a mini-water piece that fits or a screw-thread type insert for the stem to add extra vapor path length? Just a longer stem or something else?
 
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