coconut-pete
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I've read through some of the other threads on this issue, and I kind of disagree with the idea that the only thing that matters is having a clean air path. That's great for knowing that you are not directly sucking up toxins with each hit, but it completely ignores the fact that you're sitting in front of the vaporizer between hits and breathing the ambient air that it is (potentially) outgassing into. Is the heating element itself outgassing anything? What materials are inside the vaporizer and is it designed so that adhesives, wires, circuit boards, screws, etc can get heated during use? If so, then they would be outgassing into the ambient air, making a clean air path during a hit a sort of falsehood, losing the forest for the trees. I mean if someone gave you a glass straw and had you breathe through it, thats a pure glass air path, but would you feel safe breathing through its clean air path while having a bunch of plastic being burned a foot away from you?
The 3 vaporizers in the title are the ones I've narrowed it down to, figured I would ask a few questions about each and see if anyone could answer
For the Volcano, there's a lot of talk about medical certification, but that doesn't really mean much when you look into what certification actually requires. It basically requires that the device works in providing vaporized medicine and that it functions properly(ie: won't set your house on fire). I saw that S&B tested to show no aluminum particulate is present in their vapor, but as far as I can tell there have been no tests done showing whether or not any other toxins(such as hexavalent chromium, benzene, etc.) or plastic compounds end up in the vapor. Does anyone know of any testing that has been done in this regard? Saying the plastic is "food safe" or "medical grade" doesn't really mean much when there are countless plastic compounds that don't currently have well established effects on the human body. It's like calling a bottle safe because it says BPA free while ignoring that its full of BPS and every other compound it contains.
For the Evo, is there any information on the internal components and what materials are used inside? Has it been tested to see what temperature the internal components reach during use? I think it's great that it has an all glass air path(minus the stainless steel pods), but going back to my original point this isn't really comforting if the thing itself is outgassing toxic particulate into the room.
For the VB1, their website says all the right things, but I can't find any testing that they reference other than this 10yr old document which doesn't even show the laboratory name. (https://cdn.vaporbrothers.com/image..._Draw_Testing_Result_for_TO-15_and_Metals.pdf). They make a lot of claims about third party air quality testing and material certifications, but I don't see any of that. For example, Natural Mineral Heater is made from a dense glassy ceramic called porcelainite and was 3rd party lab verified to assure a toxic-free vaporizing experience...what exactly was tested and where is that lab test result?
Thanks for any help actually getting more substantive answers to these questions
The 3 vaporizers in the title are the ones I've narrowed it down to, figured I would ask a few questions about each and see if anyone could answer
For the Volcano, there's a lot of talk about medical certification, but that doesn't really mean much when you look into what certification actually requires. It basically requires that the device works in providing vaporized medicine and that it functions properly(ie: won't set your house on fire). I saw that S&B tested to show no aluminum particulate is present in their vapor, but as far as I can tell there have been no tests done showing whether or not any other toxins(such as hexavalent chromium, benzene, etc.) or plastic compounds end up in the vapor. Does anyone know of any testing that has been done in this regard? Saying the plastic is "food safe" or "medical grade" doesn't really mean much when there are countless plastic compounds that don't currently have well established effects on the human body. It's like calling a bottle safe because it says BPA free while ignoring that its full of BPS and every other compound it contains.
For the Evo, is there any information on the internal components and what materials are used inside? Has it been tested to see what temperature the internal components reach during use? I think it's great that it has an all glass air path(minus the stainless steel pods), but going back to my original point this isn't really comforting if the thing itself is outgassing toxic particulate into the room.
For the VB1, their website says all the right things, but I can't find any testing that they reference other than this 10yr old document which doesn't even show the laboratory name. (https://cdn.vaporbrothers.com/image..._Draw_Testing_Result_for_TO-15_and_Metals.pdf). They make a lot of claims about third party air quality testing and material certifications, but I don't see any of that. For example, Natural Mineral Heater is made from a dense glassy ceramic called porcelainite and was 3rd party lab verified to assure a toxic-free vaporizing experience...what exactly was tested and where is that lab test result?
Thanks for any help actually getting more substantive answers to these questions
