Underdog Vaporizer

@ zik - you can "hammer" them a little bit which will enlarge them ever so slightly and make them stay in place better. It doesn't have to be with a hammer per se, I've had good luck putting one on any hard smooth (relatively hard to break) surface (like a tile kitchen counter) and smack it a few times with the flat of a spoon (or something similarly smooth). It doesn't take much to do the trick you'll find.

@ HERBavore - sorry not yet dude. I was feeling burned out after the holiday refresh so I decided to be a slacker and take a day or two off.. I know, I know I'm a bad dog lol. I'm planning on working on them today though so stay tuned and we'll see what I come up with.

@ AA - glad your Pup arrived back home safe and sound dude.. enjoy.

from this side of the internet, some would call that a well-deserved break...

Uh... Dave's a little behind schedule with the WonGs... Something about a shelving malfunction and 50K of wood on the floor. He grabbed his keys and ran out to get some kind of something or other.

Wow, $50,000 of wood? Hope it's all still useable for the dogs.

Just a guess as to what he ran out and got:



Hope he can fix it easily. Hopefully there was no damage. Did all the wood survive?

Hey Dogs don't mind Underdogette she's just alarmist.. lol.

Long story short I was continuing to process down all that wood that was on the trailer a week or two back and had the shelving loaded, er, maybe a bit past recommended capacity. That was fine but apparently my deciding to scoot the rack over a few feet without unloading it first (playing Tetris with equipment again) wasn't as ok. As a result I ended up with about 90% of the shop wood in piles on the floor. No great problem there except we have another rainstorm on the way and our shop floor tends to flood when we get heavy rain and I was having this living-nightmare of all this exotic wood floating around the shop.. eeeek.

So, had to run back to town for like the 5th time in one day and buy all sorts of stuff to fix the problem and get the wood off the floor before the rain came.

Moral of the story is if you have 3,000lbs of wood on a rack rated for 1,000lbs and find you want to move said rack unload it first. If you don't it will unload itself.

Ok, there's your update I'm now mostly back in the saddle, gotta answer a few more emails and pack up a couple orders and then off to the shop to work on those WonGs. The wood can get organized later, at least it's all off the floor for now.

@ HERB - yeah I think right about $50K last time we did inventory.. crazy huh? Luckily all seemed to survive unscathed.

@ SM - lol duct tape and bailing wire should be a guys go-to emergency fix-it tool.. it is occasionally mine. That and zip ties, you've never seen someone cover things in as many zip ties as I do.

waiting on my xmas bonus.
i'm grabbing a twig to add to the 'dog pound'
woot!

yes zipties held the frontlight of my previous bike in place, duct tape the front light of my present bike(one time while driving the metal 'leg' of the lamp suddenly broke), and my wallet is made from duct tape.

guess there''s only 1 solution, make so much new dogs and WonGs that there''s only 1000 lbs left

Haha sounds like my old bike djonk..

Taking a quick break here and then headed back to the shop, don't worry Dogs I'm still on the job.

I've actually made some progress today and finished the first 4-5 WonGs and will knock out a few more when I get back in there before I have to start sorting wood again.

Once Underdogette has some time later this afternoon or early evening to make the glass liners for them I'll take some pics so you guys can lay your eyes on the Dog WonGs.

Sorry for the back to back posts Mods I'm past the edit window so feel free to merge them or whatever if you like.

Alright dudes (and dudettes) it's been another stupid-long day but here are those first WonGs as promised. I'll be sending a couple of these out for testing and review (ahem, Stu) and working on dialing in the shop procedures for them but expect to be making them and stocking them on the website in about a week. Once I send out a tester or two I'll probably sell these ProtoWonGs off to any of you who want to be early adopters, then like I said normal production in a week or so.

Alright, a picture and then I'm done for the day.

WonGs!

Who knows how many degrees genererates the Ohmite resistance being connected to 12V, but outside the log vape ?

Woot, I don't know what that is, but dibs on the colored one on the left

I think I like the smooth look of nr 3 from the left best btw.

Pretty different than how I imagined in mind, but in the best way possible. These look like the seal would be almost as good, if not on par with a GonG connection. But, that's not the best part, look at the beauty! As much as I would love to sit here to praise Dave'd hard work, craftsmanship, and dedication to his customers, I gotta go guys. Thanks Dave.

those are some nice lookin WonGs!

but seriously, great job Dave! these look like they would provide a great seal on a glass piece. i'm anxious to hear what Stu our official WonG tester says. i'm heavily considering grabbing one of these as a christmas treat for myself. quick question though, are these 14mm or 18mm? and if they are 18mm so would you be able to make a 14mm custom?

i only have two pieces, ones 14mm and the other is 18mm but i got a reducer for that one so all my pieces are basically 14mm.

Funny, because those are exactly how I imagined them in my mind!

Lookin' great, Dave. I can't wait to test it out.

It's been a while since I looked at the data but I'm going to say ballpark 480°F @ 12v.

@ OTA - you don't want the stripey one, it's acrylic and it stinks (like acrylic) I just made it to see if I could. The smooth one you like is walnut, but is heavily coated in walnut oil so you probably wouldn't like that one either. I'll have to make you a special one, either non-oiled (I hate not oiling wood though) or maybe oiled with odorless mineral oil.

@ HERB - how did you expect they might look? These make a much better seal than the GonG fittings I've been fighting with and are much more enjoyable for me to make, and like you point out they're pretty! I'll start using some really nice woods once I get everything dialed in, these were just made from fairly vanilla woods.

@ HES - thanks dude, right now they're all 18mm.. I haven't tried making a 14mm yet though it should be doable. That's part of what I need to work out in the procedures, or decide on just making 18's and only do the occasional 14 as a special request.

@ Stu - awesome, glad to see I was able to create what you had envisioned more or less. I'm going to send one (or two) out to you today or tomorrow.. any preference(s)?

Very excited to see these WonGs finally. Please do consider making a 14 mm , I will definitely be purchasing one if you do .

I will definitely be attempting a 14mm during the next few days and see how it works out.. if it does work out alright I'll either stock a few of them on the website or make them to order.

@ Stu - alright dude, WonGs sent. I'm guessing you get them tomorrow or Friday.

I thought you had been playing with paint again, but yeah, you keep it then

Just do me one in the same finish as my mate Blue Mahoe twig please, if you still remember what it was. I think it was just beeswax perhaps?

Well, in my mind, I thought thay would look like Stu's original WonG, except only 2 or 3 inches long. The current design, on the other hand, seems like it woul pair ALOT better and prlvide a better seal. The production design is a much better WonG than what I thought was going to be made is what I mean.

Loving the look of the Wongs Dave By any chance will you be making any longer wood stems with glass lining on the inside? Say about 5"-6" long? How soon before the Wongs are available on the site?

Stoked for the WonG's, they came together just like I thought

While I haven't seen a WonG in person yet, I can tell you that the wood/glass/silicon make a really nice combination. It's like a really simple puzzle. The glass is held in place (snug) by the silicone bowl with the wood wedged between. The screen is also held firmly in place by the rim of the glass. It's very serindipitous in its design. I should have one by the weekend, and I'm really looking forward to trying it out.

Hey, all. I'm very new to the vaping scene and have been lurking for a while now reading the extensive reviews of various mega-threads. Thanks to most everyone's input, I just today decided to make an Underdog my second vape purchase after my DBV. Just want to say thanks to all who post - you may sometimes forget it, but there are lots and lots of people who take your knowledge and input into account when making these purchases, and you're truly helping many of them improve their lives - although that may be relatively speaking, in some cases! But thanks again because it actually is a really big help to get honest feedback instead of those mostly phony "reviews" that you find elsewhere. Plus, I never would have even heard about the Underdog Vapes without FC!

And I hope the Chinese Sumac Underdog gets a good home. I wanted it, but I can only afford the Ash right now. The Ash is still lovely and will be perfectly inconspicuous in my apartment, but.... it's not the Sumac.

One possibly dumb question about the Underdog: has anyone used it in cooler temperatures? By that, I mean does anyone keep it outside, say, on a porch where it might get rather cool? Just wondering if it remains as effective because I like to vape outside - as long as it's above 40, anyway. I'm just worried about possibly cracking it.

Anyway, hope to be an active member here from now on. I love this site!

If I didn't already have a holiday party this weekend, I'd say stu should have a party and invite us all to come see his new Wong