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Supreme Vaporizer 4

Discussion in 'Plug-in Vaporizers' started by biohacker, Feb 8, 2018.

  1. scion34

    scion34 Well-Known Member

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    I run my SV3 at 400F usually, that’s only 200F or so cooler than what I run my FP at, we’re not that much cooler in the grand scheme of things. These coils will fail, and how it looks, you won’t be able to easily replace them yourselves.
     
  2. Dubmonkey

    Dubmonkey Well-Known Member

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    If coil breaks I make up you will then have a sv3 . Just heat sv4 with a torch.
     
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  3. biohacker

    biohacker Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree, perhaps for another manufacturer. However I don't think that perhaps new customers are that important at this point? These custom made Lambos may be quite limited in their production, are extremely difficult to manufacture, and are priced at their price point for a reason. There isn't any fancy marketing, advertising, etc. He did plan at one point early on to include a "kit" with a glass piece, etc. but obviously plans have changed. The Dually goes for $200 right? $95 more for a digital version with gfci? I'm good with it being worth it based on performance alone, and these are the people I hope become customers of the SV4.

    Could not agree more! Watch out for those pics and videos! :rockon:

    So send it back to Ed and he'll hook you up? :shrug:

    Just my :2c: but based on your posts it sounds like the SV4 may not be right for you, at this time. I'd also suggest avoiding the Grasshopper!
     
  4. scion34

    scion34 Well-Known Member

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    @biohacker The SV4 may not be right for me because I'm pointing out what I feel is a design issue, on a vape that as of right now none of us has likely used? I'm sorry that I'm not %100 over the moon on the bandwagon like everyone else on this thread, however isn't that the point of this forum, to voice our criticisms and concerns, along with praise when its deserved? This is no longer the same tank of a device like the SV3 is, and thats why I'm voicing myself. I love my SV3, but you have more here than just a battery to occasionally replace with this newest version, and I would just like to see that coil user replaceable.
     
  5. biohacker

    biohacker Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree, it just seems to me that you are panicking somewhat IMO. There is no design issue. Ed has our backs.

    And this is another reason why the SV4 may not be for you. I don't think you will ever see that coil be user replaceable.
     
  6. Dubmonkey

    Dubmonkey Well-Known Member

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    Well SV4 ordered. Been eyeing a SV3 for a while but over torching stuff pretty much.

    Ed said should ship out by Wednesday 2/14.
     
  7. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    Email sent to Ed...
    What have i gotten myself into this time...LMAO!!

    Excited to have the fourth version! Already own a S2 and a S3!
    If this vape con consistently produce those super dense and tasty clouds, then we are all in trouble!

    Thanks @biohacker :tup:
     
  8. Dubmonkey

    Dubmonkey Well-Known Member

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    The pin out is still unknown so may need to dissect the pid and coil.
     
  9. biohacker

    biohacker Well-Known Member

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    Fasten your seatbelt bro! :rockon:

    Respect for taking one for the betterment of the team! :rockon:
     
  10. blackstone

    blackstone Well-Known Member

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    110% it would be great if we can work something out for 220V!
    A retailer in EU is looking for $550 for FP starter kit, and $860 for the other one,
    so SV4 seems a more realistic price so far for the potential it offers.

    As for coil failure out of warranty, they might sell the coil/heat exchanger part separately so it wont be the full $300 for a whole kit if that did occur.
    Or they might fit a new coil for you.
     
  11. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member Accessory Maker

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    I want the coil and heat exchanger and bowls separately :)
     
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  12. KidFated.

    KidFated. We Don't Even Live Here..

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    Can't wait til my SV4 fund reaches the top of the folgers lid.. soon!! Gunna hit the 3 as soon as I get out of the shower..
     
  13. biohacker

    biohacker Well-Known Member

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    Saturday Morning Supreme Porn! :D

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  14. Dubmonkey

    Dubmonkey Well-Known Member

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    Cool. Looks like a sleeve and heating coil slips inside the sleeve welded to the side of the SV4 body. Hoping Ed is just tapping two holes to put bolts through to hold the heat coil in place. Then all the earlier concerns about being able to replace coils is out the window and gives the option to use a coil that works with your favorite PID.
     
  15. biohacker

    biohacker Well-Known Member

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    Good Sunday Morning Supreme Vaporizer 4 Enthusiasts!

    Just a couple of new facts....

    • Due to the SV4's large thermal mass, heatup time is 6.5 minutes.
    • Maximum coil temperature setting is 490f (255c).
    • 10mm flat coil is used and the coil/PID matter in terms of coil handle heat. Some would get extremely hot. (not sure if it's the coil design or PID causing this issue)
    :tup: Don't think there are any bolts though. He just hammers notches in (2 of them) to keep the coil in place. I don't know how you would remove the coil though after it's locked in?

    I still don't understand the concern about replacing the coil. Just like any other electronic device, that's what warranty is for.

     
  16. Abysmal Vapor

    Abysmal Vapor Shaman of The Pyramid of Orlin'Malah

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    Aluminum is very easily bendable. I have taken apart and back together the SV heater a few times :).
    I dont see why coil replacement should be a problem for a determined user :D.
    :)) You will just need to user pliers to lift up the area and then pressure back where the dots are after reinstall.
    I guess that silicon sleeve is not a must for operation. It is not in the airpath but it is not far and it will smell for sure when heated.
     
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  17. biohacker

    biohacker Well-Known Member

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    Agreed! Thanks for your input, that's great news!

    Ed mentioned that at this time the SV4 only fits 18mm female pieces, so i'd assume that is needed for operation? How would it be different from the silicone on the present sv3's? It only smells when brand new for a few uses and then goes away.
     
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  18. HindelangGG

    HindelangGG Active Member

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    Im Kind of interested in this piece but yeah like someone earlier said the price is hard but with a eu version I could take that. I would like to hear a review of one of you guys as soon as you get it
     
  19. Dubmonkey

    Dubmonkey Well-Known Member

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    Will rip on it once I get it. Ed said he would be sending mines out no later than Wednesday which means I should hopefully have it in my hands by 2/17.
     
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  20. LAWTHEONE

    LAWTHEONE Active Member

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    Ed... can we get one action shot video please? You are a couple action shots away from having some more Sales. I am very interested in this one! Thanks
     
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  21. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Yep, 220v will come I hope. Now that Ed has an EU distributor there seems a better chance for.
    110v is so much less interesting for European customers.
     
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  22. JCat

    JCat Well-Known Member Accessory Maker

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    Just a matter of recommending a compatible PID/enail controller for use with it ...
     
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  23. Mr. Whitewall

    Mr. Whitewall Well-Known Member

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    I'm very interested as well!

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    +1 For the 220V version.
    +1 14mm joint, no silicone (+ normal glass 14/18 adapter for 18mm pieces?).
    +1 Hex-Nail/etc/PID compatible? (no biggie if not).

    Would that be even remotely possible?

    Don't mind waiting for a second version, as I have other GAS investments planned for the near future, and considering EU versions will still take a little while to appear, since the device just came out?
     
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  24. lazylathe

    lazylathe Almost there...

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    Rick and Morty everything!!!
    Even Mr Poopy Butthole approves of the Supreme 4!!

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    Still no word from Ed...Hopefully sometime this week!
     
  25. Hogni

    Hogni Honi soit qui mal y pense

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    Unbearable suspense!
     

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