At least you were refunded! I can't imagine how pissed you would be in MY shoes! I won't be seeing my money for at least another WEEK! Don't forget how long you waited for Ed to reply.. Yes! Not talking about the $2 SV3 thermometer (that Ed charges $30 for).... TC + stainless clamp, wired to your coil/PID so it responds to where it needs to and not the coil. Ding Ding Ding!!! My glow was like a supernova!! You can still see the coil...well at least on mine you could, but it also moved around if you remember. Where are all the other diehards that pulled the SV4 trigger??? Requested invoices but then bailed?