Have we been using cannabis wrong?

Hippie Dickie

The Herbal Cube
Manufacturer
well, that was easier than i thought it would be. yesterday i realized that the Bud Toaster doesn't need to automatically save (permanently) the changes to temperature during a session -- as it does now.

so i added a new user input command during a session that takes the current temperature and makes it permanent. this way, i can increase (or decrease) the temperature during a session -- without it affecting the next session. it turned out to be a pretty minor code change.

so, start at 379°F (the factory setting), then bump the temperature up as the session progresses. And the next session will again start at 379°F.

during a session the save function is activated by holding BUTTON2 for 2 seconds. a click of BUTTON2 still decreases temperature by -4°F.

BUTTON1 operation is unchanged. a click of BUTTON1 increases the temperature by +5°F.
 
Hippie Dickie,

Roger D

Vapor Wizard
I'm now trying to exhale as little vapors as possible, taking little puffs, breathing more between each tokes. Taking more time to optimize absorption. Exactly like when you're eating, the slower you eat, the better you digest it.
I feel a deeper high
 

BigDaddyVapor

@BigDogJunction
As I've always said to people that claim the MFLB doesn't get them high and/or medicated. Its what you put into the vape, that you get out. The user is just as important as the tool. But, I always ask them to take a challenge. Work on their technique, to at least produce some vapor... then sit down for a session. Do two, nice rips off the Box (enough to fill your lungs, but little on exhale. exhaled vapor is wasted vapor). After the 2 rips, wait 5 minutes. Get back to me. I've got wispy hitters and heavy hitters. With my HI, its basically the same thing. 2 rips off it, wait 5... I'm medicated.

HOWEVER

I kind of got caught up in Vape and Glass Acquisition Syndromes lately, so got caught up on a little bit of cloud chasing myself, also making videos... people want to see clouds.

Guess its like the money shot in porn.

We've had several discussions on t-breaks and tolerance levels. We've had people with every sort of background available chime in on it. From my own personal experience, I've found the most effective thing, for when it seems like my meds aren't working, my tolerance has gotten too high, is to just switch things up. I'll be using my HI for a week and feels like my meds aren't having the same effect. Switching it up for a day or two, with the MFLB... problem solved.
 

Roger D

Vapor Wizard

I just broke the piece of glass that goes inside testing stuff
Ordered a new one, and a weed star bong with 8 arms diffuser.
 
Roger D,

JCat

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
As I've always said to people that claim the MFLB doesn't get them high and/or medicated. Its what you put into the vape, that you get out. The user is just as important as the tool. But, I always ask them to take a challenge. Work on their technique, to at least produce some vapor... then sit down for a session. Do two, nice rips off the Box (enough to fill your lungs, but little on exhale. exhaled vapor is wasted vapor). After the 2 rips, wait 5 minutes. Get back to me. I've got wispy hitters and heavy hitters. With my HI, its basically the same thing. 2 rips off it, wait 5... I'm medicated.

HOWEVER

I kind of got caught up in Vape and Glass Acquisition Syndromes lately, so got caught up on a little bit of cloud chasing myself, also making videos... people want to see clouds.

Guess its like the money shot in porn.

We've had several discussions on t-breaks and tolerance levels. We've had people with every sort of background available chime in on it. From my own personal experience, I've found the most effective thing, for when it seems like my meds aren't working, my tolerance has gotten too high, is to just switch things up. I'll be using my HI for a week and feels like my meds aren't having the same effect. Switching it up for a day or two, with the MFLB... problem solved.

I was a big fan of the "mix it up" club ... I found switching from vape-bonging my EQ to going back to blowing bags with my Volcano to using my Solo straight up all had their benefits (found that each was more effective than the next at different times and attributed that to the fact that it seemed that switching methods of vaporization caused increased perception of effects). Since I got my Cloud (and 2nd Cloud), it seems that nothing cuts it like my Cloud. Always go back to it. Find other vaporizers too harsh and just don't get me to the same place as easily.
 
JCat,

Cereal_MF

Green goes to brown, n that's what I stand for.
Today i was making toast n thought ooh how nice would it be to put some bud in foil and put it in the toaster. Better than that would probably be to make butter and then spread it on normal toast. My point is that i guess im becoming a fan of vapor to think of such a silly method of vaporizing. Im highly vaped at the moment, and the. Power is still out in NJ! I didn't smoke at all today, cigs or weed, which is actually an achievement for me! I also realised that i can vape throughout the whole day, maintaining a steady high which will only build the more u hit it, at the price of less than half of a bowl pack of which i used to smoke more than one nightly before switching to vape.
 
Cereal_MF,

Zookeeper

Active Member
When you do this, do you leave the cyclone bowl on the unit in between draws? I tried to stop doing this because I thought leaving my material in the cyclone bowl would degrade its potency through over exposure to the heat in the bowl. As a result, I switched to elbow packing because I can remove the whip in between draws thereby taking my material away from unnecessary heat exposure.

I have some charts on my other comp that show decarboxylation levels, relative to time and temperature. Of course herb freshness and storage are unknown variables in predicting how long is too long, at what points THC begins degrading into CBN. Never was a believer in pre-decarbed flowers from a smoking/vaping standpoint, but Ive recently left bowls packed for over 10 mins at vaping temp before, let them cool down, bring them back up to temp, and the hits are better than had I only let the herb soak for a minute or so. Cant argue with that. In other words, there shouldnt be much degradation as long as the airflow is at a standstill and not leaking out the goodies.
 
Zookeeper,
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BigDaddyVapor

@BigDogJunction
That's one of the things I love about the VB HF. You can leave the whip plugged in and the herb will be fine. Start pulling on it and after few seconds you're. Getting nice thick, flavorful hits. At least with my experience. I think the VB HF is a flavor master.
 
BigDaddyVapor,
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