I just emailed and asked the same. I bought a legacy pro from them a while back as well as put the 25 down payment a while back. Just waiting to hear response. I'll buy it for the 210.
Precisely why “under-promise, over-deliver” is a thing. It’s like they keep punching themselves in the face, making promise after promise after promise for well over a year and not making good on any of them, and then we’ve got folks saying “go easy on them, can’t you see they keep getting punched in the face?” rather than address the obvious issue and ask why they don’t stop punching themselves in the face. I mean, this isn’t even like a borderline case. They chartered a fucking cruise to “launch” this non-existent product nearly a year ago, and now we’re being asked to accept that it’s huge in Germany (trust us!!). If they bring a good product to market some day that’s great, but we (unlike the idiots posting 4-star reviews of non-existent products) aren’t being compensated to be kind to them.consider maybe, there are circumstances, regulations, and situations we know nothing about that justify these launch delays, manufacture issues, and other unforeseen problems.
I agree w you they have issues w rollouts and accountability but they have usually pulled through. They did take users advice in correcting the issues w the leagacy w the pro. I do gotta say I'm one of those reviews. I was not compensated and it was based on what I saw in person of the demo device and of past devices. Hopefully they do something for the people who essentially funded what looks to be a party rather than a product only to be slapped in face by not including them in the preorder.Precisely why “under-promise, over-deliver” is a thing. It’s like they keep punching themselves in the face, making promise after promise after promise for well over a year and not making good on any of them, and then we’ve got folks saying “go easy on them, can’t you see they keep getting punched in the face?” rather than address the obvious issue and ask why they don’t stop punching themselves in the face. I mean, this isn’t even like a borderline case. They chartered a fucking cruise to “launch” this non-existent product nearly a year ago, and now we’re being asked to accept that it’s huge in Germany (trust us!!). If they bring a good product to market some day that’s great, but we (unlike the idiots posting 4-star reviews of non-existent products) aren’t being compensated to be kind to them.
nobody is asking you to believe if it's true. true or false, there were real reasons. none of them were for a nefarious purpose. they were trying to make a better, less expensive unit when most buyers said $800 WAS too expensive. so it was back to the drawing board.Precisely why “under-promise, over-deliver” is a thing. It’s like they keep punching themselves in the face, making promise after promise after promise for well over a year and not making good on any of them, and then we’ve got folks saying “go easy on them, can’t you see they keep getting punched in the face?” rather than address the obvious issue and ask why they don’t stop punching themselves in the face. I mean, this isn’t even like a borderline case. They chartered a fucking cruise to “launch” this non-existent product nearly a year ago, and now we’re being asked to accept that it’s huge in Germany (trust us!!). If they bring a good product to market some day that’s great, but we (unlike the idiots posting 4-star reviews of non-existent products) aren’t being compensated to be kind to them.
nobody is asking you to believe if it's true. true or false, there were real reasons. none of them were for a nefarious purpose.
My first vape was the X, which I used for awhile and then started getting further into it. Their biggest mistake has consistently been their lack of transparency. If you miss a launch date, tell us. It would be nice if you explained why, but even that’s not as important as keeping us informed. With the Legacy they’d miss a deadline and not say anything or weeks later they’d announce a new date and blow by that with no communication unless we pestered them.Again, I’m not accusing Airvape of anything aside from the appearance of ineptitude, which seems like a fair judgment given their actions. Yes, I realize that running a business is hard and problems happen, but there are ways to avoid this kind of blowback and Airvape seems 100% uninterested in putting in any work on that front. That’s all I’m taking issue with.
Again How Does one that got / Has the ALP Get A discount,can I send my ALP In with A code ?Wanting the Enso for $210 Also.to be clear, my statement of the reason for scaled back unit because people thought no one would pay $800, was my personal observation by using logic. it did not come through an airvape source. it maybe wrong, so i wanted that to be known, it was an educated guess.
contact cs@airvapeusa.com or cs@airvapeeu.comAgain How Does one that got / Has the ALP Get A discount,can I send my ALP In with A code ?Wanting the Enso for $210 Also.
You get to keep the ALP. As I recall you also have to register for some Ninja group. IIRC, they send you a code when you request the new device.Again How Does one that got / Has the ALP Get A discount,can I send my ALP In with A code ?Wanting the Enso for $210 Also.
they made a big mistake, flubbed the fix, and offered an unsatisfactory resolution. those are good reasons not to buy from them in the future.After their roll out of the Legacy I won't buy another product . It was a debacle to say the least , and the little fix it kit they sent to diffuse heat was an after thought that sucked .
Disagree. Part of the reason for the “Pro” was to address the issues with the OG and its “microdosing basket,” which didn’t even fit in the oven. IIRC they released another version of it which worked equally badly (they also initially tried to charge buyers for it, but then settled on just charging for shipping.) The Pro answered this problem with the screw in “microdosing disk” which also really doesn’t work. AV addressed this by introducing dosing capsules, which were an extra charge and were impossible to open. They introduced dosing caps v2, which were also an extra charge unless you bought the first version, in which case they were half price. AV continually expects the customer to subsidize their ineptitude. I wouldn’t go near this Enso thing with a 20 foot pole.that would be the airvape legacy pro, for example.
i think you made your point but you must have a agenda. thousands of owners, world-wide do not have your point of view. can we stop now.I bought a pro, but not either version of the caps for this very reason. Yes, why would you want to hear about the previous failures of the company you’re about to pay a huge sum to for their latest “product?”
this is a enso sub not the negative history of airvape