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I'ts the first vape Ive owned that will pass my personal need test of being able to run 6 cycles on warp 10 rerbefore the battery croaks. The last time I took that thing out of the house, it got used HARD with a bunch of show and tell around some people that were vape curious and I still came...

other than the cleaning PITA. that seshgear is a beast. HUGE performance envelope, big load, small load, hit it hard , light, there is zero learning curve. Turn it up to warp ten and you will think you are smoking a pipe. You damnsure won't be standing up against a black wall squinting for...

there's a guy selling those things under a "seshgear" brand on ebay for about $70. I'd tell you what I think but I got no street cred here but if I did, I'd say it's about untouchable at that price, a fierce competitor with anything under $200 and a massive life sucking PITA to keep clean...

still luvin this thing and I'm beating it, dropped a few times, crawled on the floor a couple looking for the lid that flew off...put back on...squeezed the very edges carefully to end that issue...I'll bet every bit of an once of various top shelf has gone through this thing, STILL working...

You can get those things all over ebay for , <$90 delivered, You can avoid the language barrier and import BS, return BS potential and do a little good for a small business entrepreneur on your way out the door. The unit works like a champ.

I'm no vapeologist for sure but...that vape is worth a hundred bucks or so, maybe even a little more. IMHO If you can wrangle it for less, outstanding. For those that had the 'nad to gamble and got in the ground floor of the IPO, good for you. That's the way it's supposed to work. I don't know...

It'll be interesting to see how that price and product holds up against the $80 or so Pax