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Yeah I agree. But this is not TV's first time around 'the block' and they did have a perfect product launch with the T1. I agree with you that it's how the issues are handled and what the final product is like. But the issues were terribly handled for the first ~2months~ and the product appears...

Is it just me or does it seem like there are an unusually high amount of problems with Cera's? Regardless of whether it's a simple fix or has to be sent back in, I'm kind of shocked that so many people have reported issues. Kind of makes me question why Nate left again? :nope:

:uhh: Some pretty compelling stuff here... http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505125_162-28243713/10-ways-failure-leads-to-success/ Mod note: Stop questioning members and quibbling about semantics. And, if you have nothing further that is useful to add to this thread, please move on.

I think it's you.

Haven't you heard the saying, "failure is good for success?" Now they can inspect that failed core and learn how it happened so they can prevent it in the future. Failure------------>Improvement ;)

Looks like we might have are first failed core OF :cheers:

To be honest that looks more like a metaphor about how high you were off a tenth of a gram than a statement about the device getting hot (but I guess I was wrong):doh: . In any event you should try to be more specific in your future TV beta testing about how hot these wonderful things get...

I think the most diplomatic way is to just ask OF. OF: Did your beta unit not overheat due to some other factor such as diff batteries/setup?

Not accusing OF of lying at all, but maybe withholding information (which could have been required in the beta test). Look the facts are the facts, there is no way OF could have vaped for 'over 20 minutes without the cera ll getting extremely hot. Just the way it is.

.I can use my pax or even Solo for 30 minutes straight and it does not get ANYWHERE near as hot as the Cera. It is also a quarter of the weight, half the size, and hits like a SSV(pax/solo) compared to a MFLB(cera ll). When you are designing a product practicality has to be taken into...

Yes but about 10 switches have had to be replaced due to them not working/overheating. Whether It's a core or a switch the device still has the same downtime (amount of time it takes for TET to ship new) as if a core failed. As a general rule I don't think the customer can really be...

Is it just me or does this seem like an unusually high amount of problems with switches/cores not working properly (and most members still haven't received their Ceras yet?)? It seems Paka was right... we do know who the beta testers are. :myday:

If I wanted one I would buy it now. Those things go out of stock for months.:myday:

Sounds like you should order a bunch of them, fit them to the Cera, and sell to make some extra $$. There's obviously very high demand

This is just a really elaborate way of saying it is not a pure convection vape?

Let me rephrase this: Will my Cera work in alternate Galaxies?

So there lawyers told them to make a latching switch for individuals who couldn't push a button and then told them to cut the latching switch out once the device was overheating. Must be some busy lawyers. A busy Lawyer is a Happy Lawyer -Bell

OF I'm a little curious as to why you dropped your strong stance on the latching switch a little while back. I completely agree with everything you say here but I just don't understand why this has become a non-issue for you know? Also I guess Pak's old-age experience was right in regards to...

I'm sorry if my question confused you. I understand that 'pulsing' was a manual process with the toggle switch that has now been taken out of the design. What I'm referring to is something completely different. If I'm not mistaken I remember a few months ago either you or TV mentioned that there...

I'm sorry but I thought the original latching switch would automatically pulse the Cera on an off, to prevent overheating. Or this is at least what OF and TV first said.