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i have but my shower in the freezer for ten mins with no issues... its very smooth..!!

the thermo old line doesnt really work with any units out there... the ohms is under 1 and one my unit that can output some power only gets hits if i put directly on the bottom of dart.. is this the way it works...? custo service good tho.. but seems like d9 is so the way to go on personal...

can anyone say or tell me which of the two is the way to go? pvhes or ed tnt stems