Impassioned and civility

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usr/share/vape

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It seems in this day and age being passionate about something is excuse enough to be rude to one another. I see it in everything from politics to vaporizers. You've got vape vendors acting like petulant children, vape users acting like someone is stabbing at their religion, etc...

Good grief folks - put down the gloves and take a long, deep hit off that vape you love so dearly! :D Disagreeing is no reason to be uncivilized.

Hey vendors... you may ring up a point or two with a few folks, but the best way to drive sales is to conduct yourself in a professional manner. I don't buy anything from folks who get into shouting matches over something as unimportant as a vape.
 
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SmogTown

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Civility is definitely something that is on the decline. I think its just a symptom of the decay of western civilization. Societies are just like all living things they age and change. Well that my :2c:.
 
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josh

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This forum is getting a little out of hand. What I don't understand is why everyone posts their comments in the wrong thread. If we took out all the unnecessary posts in the PD and MZ threads then we would be left with helpful information. Instead everyone just wants to post their opinions on this and that and most of it doesn't even apply to the thread they are posting it in. At least you had sense enough to post your thoughts in the lounge (where these sort of posts belong).
 
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Happycamper

Sweet Dreams Babycakes
We seem to depend on written text to communicate these days. It's so easy for the wrong meaning to be taken from words on a page. I miss the old fashioned way when we actually used to have a conversation before all this interweb thing.
 
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lwien

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Happycamper said:
We seem to depend on written text to communicate these days. It's so easy for the wrong meaning to be taken from words on a page.
Yup. Without the visual clues, it's really easy to be misunderstood.
 
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Mezz Mezzrow

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lwien said:
Happycamper said:
We seem to depend on written text to communicate these days. It's so easy for the wrong meaning to be taken from words on a page.
Yup. Without the visual clues, it's really easy to be misunderstood.
Yeah, but it's when you have a misunderstanding that your "polite skills" are going to be tested. Do you rise to the flame-bait or do you assume the usually thankless role of conciliator?

The problem of flaming is greatly exacerbated when it's prominent people who are indulging in it. Frankly, making excuses for childish behavior doesn't help. :2c:
 
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Happycamper

Sweet Dreams Babycakes
Mezz Mezzrow said:
lwien said:
Happycamper said:
We seem to depend on written text to communicate these days. It's so easy for the wrong meaning to be taken from words on a page.
Yup. Without the visual clues, it's really easy to be misunderstood.
Yeah, but it's when you have a misunderstanding that your "polite skills" are going to be tested. Do you rise to the flame-bait or do you assume the usually thankless role of conciliator?

The problem of flaming is greatly exacerbated when it's prominent people who are indulging in it. Frankly, making excuses for childish behavior doesn't help. :2c:
Now, you see i could read into that reply you mean for me to shut and sod off beacuse what i have written is supporting what they are doing....:o

However, I've counted to ten and i'm all right now ;)

(edit to change a smiley)
 
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usr/share/vape

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Mezz Mezzrow said:
The problem of flaming is greatly exacerbated when it's prominent people who are indulging in it. Frankly, making excuses for childish behavior doesn't help. :2c:
Exactly. Besides, a pinch of sugar will always buy more than a pound of salt. :D

Be nice. Mean people suck.
 
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The_Other_Shoe

What's Going On?
I know all of what you guys are talking about and I have only been sitting on this forum for about a month or two or three, counting days as 'guest'. All I know though is that as a new member, if I had seen the hostility displayed in some of the posts, I would hesitate to join and hesitate to remain. I'm not sure but I have only seen the hostility displayed in the PD/MZ threads as that would be the type of vape I selected to buy. I'm doing my best just to sit and wait it out as a bystander. But the sooner everyone can drop all this competition, the sooner I think the forum will be firing on all cylinders and everyone will be much happier. Thanks for this section in the lounge. It was a good idea, imo, almost like a petition to stop all the anger :). Hope all this clears up soon.
 
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leozdad

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In the words of Rodney King "can't we all just get along"? All the bickerin, it's just :horse: IMHO :peace:
 
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VaporBud

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Some peps lose perspective alot i think. Get to wrapped up in the online bs and drama.
 
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max

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Your intentions, in this thread, are good, but I'd like to point out to everyone that there are a couple of rule violations here. If you're in doubt about which posts I'm referring to, check your adjectives and phrases. Flaming is name calling, and it doesn't have to be said directly to the person or persons involved. If you weren't aware that the rule applies in that respect, I'm telling you that it does. Calling people childish is not acceptable. On another forum I mod, that would be an official infraction, with points that add up and don't expire.

Even this opinion- "This forum is getting a little out of hand." is a criticism of management decisions as far as the way the forum is being moderated. Any comments, complaints about how this forum is being run, or is structured, as well as complaints about the content of other members' posts, should be directed to staff and not posted in any section of the forum. We didn't make up the rule quoted below. We pretty much copied it from another, totally unrelated forum, and just reworded it. The intent of the rule is exactly the same.

Public discussions of staff decisions are not permitted on the site. If you have any concerns or queries relating to a staff decision, please take it up in private with a member of the site administration team
If a post is in violation, in your view, report it. Feel free to email vtac with your views on how we should run the forum. As I've said before, this forum is unlike any other I've ever seen. Vape makers and dealers (who aren't site sponsors) are allowed to post here, to the benefit of all concerned. But allowing these policies also brings the possibility of problems that other forums don't have to worry about. Friction between two manufacturers (and their supporters) that produce vapes with the same basic design isn't really surprising. The escalation has taken place in a short period of time, and although we've started to discuss solutions already, we're a small staff and vtac is presently out of the country. We also have responsibilities that take precedence over our volunteer modding on the forum.

It's obvious that we're going to have to enforce rules in a more strict manner, and perhaps start keeping track of warnings and temporary bannings for individuals. That's more work for us and we've tried to avoid it. A poster in another thread claimed, just a few hours ago, that we're now like a police state here. I totally disagree with that opinion. The consensus is that, if anything, we're too slack. But it points out very well that you can't please everyone. You can't go too far in either direction -too strict or too slack- or a lot of members will just leave. And finding the right balance isn't easy when your forum is unique and policy changes can't be made overnight.

If you feel a post is inappropriate, report it or ignore it, but don't respond to it. The problems will be fixed- maybe not to everyone's satisfaction, but nothing is perfect. For a good while our only rule here was 'be nice'. That's only sufficient as long as everyone wants to cooperate and is on the same page as to the definition of 'nice'. As more people joined, we had to add more rules. That's the way it goes, The bigger the group or organization, the more rules you need.
 
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