Crafty/Crafty+ by Storz & Bickel

I switched back to the coarse screen for the superior airflow, the main reason being is that I always pack with an oil pad. I've only had a full bowl to share once in the past month, and it's much easier to just pop on a new cooling unit. I actually plan to have several cooling units all for specific herb (I generally only have 2-3 strains at a time).

A few things I've noticed, a clean cooling unit does not give me more vapor as others have said. This might just be the specific strain. I use about an 1/8 a week maybe less and clean my cooling unit about once a month, so at the 1/2 oz mark.

I think a great solution for you folks who love to keep those cooling units clean, crack them open after a session and use a dull edge to scoop out the warm oil, you should be able to get it sufficiently clean. One of the benefits to this I see being no alcohol residuals left in the reclaim after evaporation, just flower power.

This bad boy has been running like a champ, however, my stepson has said his is not charging properly anymore. I think it may be dieing. I suggested for him to do a factory reset to see if that helps, if not, that would mark his failing around the 60 hour mark. Mine is at about 34 or 35. Both of our units are in the CY001 range.

I am absolutely in love with the fact that I can use between 0.05-0.1gr of flower and have results in spades!

psychonaut said:

I use about an 1/8 a week maybe less and clean my cooling unit about once a month, so at the 1/2 oz mark.

I think a great solution for you folks who love to keep those cooling units clean, crack them open after a session and use a dull edge to scoop out the warm oil, you should be able to get it sufficiently clean. One of the benefits to this I see being no alcohol residuals left in the reclaim after evaporation, just flower power.
I am absolutely in love with the fact that I can use between 0.05-0.1gr of flower and have results in spades!

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I think once a month for 1/8 a week is too little cleaning IMO. I clean my unit every 2-3 hours based on the app's hours of operation with a soak in 99% ISO. As far as reclaiming oil after each session with some type of tool, that is a level of OCD even the most obsessive smoker shouldn't consider. The amount of reclaim I've gotten from my first crafty's 69 hours of use was pretty negligible. .4 grams of material from 2 and a half months of drying out my saved up ISO when I cleaned it. I estimate I used about 2 or 3 ounces of material in it. That's less than 1% return on the material you put in. Just be happy with the vape poop you get and make brownies with that to be efficient.

Coming up to 50 hours in 2 months other then a piece of the casing braking off, it's going strong. Factory reset helps some problems. Just now my crafty turned off during use and I couldn't turn it back on even though battery was ok so a quick reset to factory settings solved the problem.

I tried a half packed oven with the oil pad on top for the first time. I've always just vaped full bowls. Needless to say I was a bit skeptical that it would get me to where I wanted to be.

Well...I'm not skeptical any longer!

I went straight to 200 C for the entire sess. My first rip, I got the thickest most flavourful vapour. I was impressed. I got 3 more huge pulls , before it started to fade away. Before I knew it, I was ripped, more surprisingly with about half the amount I was using before. Love the crafty even more !

DoubleVanos said:

I tried a half packed oven with the oil pad on top for the first time. I've always just vaped full bowls. Needless to say I was a bit skeptical that it would get me to where I wanted to be.

Well...I'm not skeptical any longer!

I went straight to 200 C for the entire sess. My first rip, I got the thickest most flavourful vapour. I was impressed. I got 3 more huge pulls , before it started to fade away. Before I knew it, I was ripped, more surprisingly with about half the amount I was using before. Love the crafty even more !

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That's how I rock usually as well. 1/3-1/2 of a bowl, the oil pad on top and full blast at 210C. My second unit still works fine here. Better than the first one!

natural farmer said:

That's how I rock usually as well. 1/3-1/2 of a bowl, the oil pad on top and full blast at 210C. My second unit still works fine here. Better than the first one!

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Wow 210 seems rather high, run my mighty at 180 190 and then finish off at 200

showersmoker said:

I think once a month for 1/8 a week is too little cleaning IMO. I clean my unit every 2-3 hours based on the app's hours of operation with a soak in 99% ISO. As far as reclaiming oil after each session with some type of tool, that is a level of OCD even the most obsessive smoker shouldn't consider. The amount of reclaim I've gotten from my first crafty's 69 hours of use was pretty negligible. .4 grams of material from 2 and a half months of drying out my saved up ISO when I cleaned it. I estimate I used about 2 or 3 ounces of material in it. That's less than 1% return on the material you put in. Just be happy with the vape poop you get and make brownies with that to be efficient.

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I didn't mean to scoop out the oil after each session, what I meant was eventually you have enough to scoop out. When you open it up and it's like honey stretching across the parts. Get in there and just scrape it out at that point. You don't really need to soak the whole cooling unit in ISO to clean it up, maybe just the mouthpiece since it's harder to scrape, and for disinfection. A quick soak for the o-rings.

My whole point was you don't have the residuals left and don't have to spend any time waiting on alcohol to evaporate

natural farmer said:

That's how I rock usually as well. 1/3-1/2 of a bowl, the oil pad on top and full blast at 210C. My second unit still works fine here. Better than the first one!

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This has been my method just abount since I got it for evening use, especially with a good indica. I dont use hardly any herb so long as I keep my sessions the same size. The level of extraction seems very complete. Just Crafty

psychonaut said:

I didn't mean to scoop out the oil after each session, what I meant was eventually you have enough to scoop out. When you open it up and it's like honey stretching across the parts. Get in there and just scrape it out at that point. You don't really need to soak the whole cooling unit in ISO to clean it up, maybe just the mouthpiece since it's harder to scrape, and for disinfection. A quick soak for the o-rings.

My whole point was you don't have the residuals left and don't have to spend any time waiting on alcohol to evaporate



This has been my method just abount since I got it for evening use, especially with a good indica. I dont use hardly any herb so long as I keep my sessions the same size. The level of extraction seems very complete. Just Crafty

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Would second that view about scraping the honey oil out of the cooling unit. Between my Mighty and Alfa, I clean em once a week together to yield a very large dab to cover all of the oil pad. I use several toothpicks to scrape the goodies out and place on pad. Serious high thc levels of concentrate from 25% thc bud with long session once a week for free off 6 grams of bud! Considering a 1/2 gram of oil goes for $50 this is killer

DoubleVanos said:

I tried a half packed oven with the oil pad on top for the first time. I've always just vaped full bowls. Needless to say I was a bit skeptical that it would get me to where I wanted to be.

Well...I'm not skeptical any longer!

I went straight to 200 C for the entire sess. My first rip, I got the thickest most flavourful vapour. I was impressed. I got 3 more huge pulls , before it started to fade away. Before I knew it, I was ripped, more surprisingly with about half the amount I was using before. Love the crafty even more !

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that's what happens when I use the oil pad on the volcano too. gonna try it on my crafty as soon I get home. haven't gotten medicated in a week!

kolila said:

that's what happens when I use the oil pad on the volcano too. gonna try it on my crafty as soon I get home. haven't gotten medicated in a week!

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I haven't tried this method with my cano. Going to do this for sure now.

vapeape77 said:

Would second that view about scraping the honey oil out of the cooling unit. Between my Mighty and Alfa, I clean em once a week together to yield a very large dab to cover all of the oil pad. I use several toothpicks to scrape the goodies out and place on pad. Serious high thc levels of concentrate from 25% thc bud with long session once a week for free off 6 grams of bud! Considering a 1/2 gram of oil goes for $50 this is killer

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I was out of herbs for the last few days until I evaporated the ISO where I had only bathed my two CUs after maybe 8-10g going through them. I didn't have very flat dish neither a razor blade to scrape so I put the dish in the oven at about 70C for 15 min or so, the ISO evaporated completely I guess, the oils got soft and I just took a make up removal cotton pad, cleaned the dish with it until it shined and I had in my hands a very potent pad!!! Cut it to pieces with a pair of scissors and used it in the Crafty! With one small square piece and the oil pad on top, in 210C it gave wonderful and tasty enough clouds, maybe more than 15 of them, depending on the certain piece of cotton and how much of the oil it had absorbed. My last try was with 6-7 pieces all stuffed together with no oil pad. The clouds were monstrous and they just wouldn't stop! It'd sure be better with a water tool towards the end but it wasn't that harsh. Crafty is a very special vaporizer. I can't think myself without it at the moment!



PS: Tried the same cotton pieces in the Lotus but while it gave monstrous clouds as well, the taste suffered cause of the spikes in temp. Lotus sure got upwards 230C while Crafty stayed at a tasty 210C all the time!

psychonaut said:

My whole point was you don't have the residuals left and don't have to spend any time waiting on alcohol to evaporate

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I'm going to have to completely disagree with you there. When I tried scraping out the inside of my cooling unit there was always some material that I was not able to scrape out because of all the nooks and crannies. After you scrape up your cooling unit I bet if you shine a flashlight on it you'll still see all sorts of shiny spots where there is still residue. When I clean my crafty it takes me about one minute to pull it apart and disassemble it I put it in a sandwich baggie and pour the ISO in. I don't even wait to start pulling out the O-rings and Pat them dry with a paper towel. Then I pull out the parts of the cooling unit one at a time and pet them dry with either the paper towel or a Q-tip. After I reassembled the cooling unit I use the leftover iso and a few Q-tips to clean the bowl of the heating unit. The rim where the plastic meets the metal always has lots of resin trapped between it. This entire process takes approximately five minutes and has my cooling unit looking like it was never used. I can immediately pack it up and have no alcohol taste.

vapeape77 said:

I use several toothpicks to scrape the goodies out and place on pad. Serious high thc levels of concentrate from 25% thc bud with long session once a week for free off 6 grams of bud! Considering a 1/2 gram of oil goes for $50 this is killer

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My argument is That the time of scraping the resin with the toothpicks isn't worth the effort. One big dab probably weighs .04 grams. If it took you 6 g of 25%thc bud that's still less than 1% return on the material you put in. I wonder how many minutes you spend scraping up that one hit. Also, I think I'm just too much of a snob to vape resin. It really tastes like garbage because of the high heat it's been exposed to. Nothing like the tasty stuff some people pay $50 a half g. Even if You value your crafty resin at $50 a half g you're only scraping up $4 worth a week.

my grinder and trusty shovel.

showersmoker said:

My argument is That the time of scraping the resin with the toothpicks isn't worth the effort. One big dab probably weighs .04 grams. If it took you 6 g of 25%thc bud that's still less than 1% return on the material you put in. I wonder how many minutes you spend scraping up that one hit. Also, I think I'm just too much of a snob to vape resin. It really tastes like garbage because of the high heat it's been exposed to. Nothing like the tasty stuff some people pay $50 a half g. Even if You value your crafty resin at $50 a half g you're only scraping up $4 worth a week.

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Nah mate Im not trying to argue with you, just my view. It taks me 20 min to get the goodies out and clean both units, yielding a full 10 min session. My guess is it's 50% thc oil and I def don't value it at shop price of $50, just its free and the cheapest oil on the market is $50 1/2 gram. My Alfa oil is better, but I just mix em both. Whatever floats your boat...... May not be a juju joint but is a free high in my view since I have to clean the unit anyway

Hi all, just made an account because i almost read all the pages on this forum before buying the crafty.

Got it a week now after smoking 10 years, works great. The first time using it.. W O W

But now the weird part kicks in, after a week of using it i'm getting a weird aftertaste and its kinda bad. Now i'm not a pro when it comes to vaporizers, but i first tried the arizer air, which is good, but not what i was searching for, but i never had that kind of aftertaste (only had the popcorn ). I wouldn't say it's a plastic aftertaste, but it leans towards it.. Also taking a 'sip' is the worst taste..

Does anyone have this same taste? i'm trying to find out if its inside the unit or my herbs or the hot air (?) or if i had that taste al along (but i didn't have it the first day.. or my taste sucked that day..) and i'm just focussing to much on it. Also tried the unit with no herbs, i get a little of that plastic-ish taste.

So am i just focussing on that little taste everyone has but doesn't complain about or is it probably my unit?

some extra info: already cleaned it twice with isopropyl, i use it daily, full packed mostly, got good quality herbs, also tried different herbs, i get 2-3 sessions per battery charge, charging takes 1,5 - 2 hours.

Hi, hope your crafty will get sorted out. As weird as it sounds. Some strains have such unique tastes, and this vape can hit hard. It may be a combo of a funky dunky kind strain and your intelligence. Or maybe your craftys pooched?

The other night a very small piece of the housing chipped off my mighty. I was pretty stoned on some great og kush. And I got all paranoid that my bowl tasted like plastic and the bit may have fallen in. I took a few deep breaths, finished the bowl and think I'm good now. Best of wishes.

So I think my battery may be crapping out. I've got 62 hours on it and now I can just barely get two bowls/sessions out of it before it won't work. When it was new I remember doing three before I started getting the low battery warning, etc. Today it flashed that before I had even finished the second session. Not back to back sessions either.
Although I've been following all along I can't remember anybody else posting this problem.



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adam_baumm said:

...funky dunky...

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If that's not an actual real strain, it shoud be.

No plastic taste here bro. Crafty has been the tastiest vape I have used. If it's bad for you then there could be broken plastic in there, I guess. These units can be brittle in places.

Send it back.

Hey all just checking in! I'm an early adopter with about 50 hours on my unit. My serial# is below 1000 so it's an early unit. I also own a Plenty. That girl is a work horse. You can really put the Plenty through the ringer. However, I prefer my crafty. The awesome tasty rips from the tiny amount of herb just can't be topped. That being said, I baby this thing. It never goes above 390f and never anything close to back to back bowls. I've read too many posts of people's units going bad. Most of the users seemed to be heavier vapists than me. So here's my point (sorry for the ramble. Craftyd!): I believe the crafty really shines for moderate users. (I take about 1 hit an hour on average. Unit never gets super hot.) However I've found that when I have people over and want to go heavy I get the plenty out. No need for back to backs with the plenty cause the bowl is way bigger. So my advice is this: if you are light to moderate get the crafty, but if you want to session your face off just get the plenty. It can handle anything. If your a solo user that doesn't use a ton at once, just one or two hit mini session, the Crafty is THE vaporizer. Happy Vaping!!!

Just performed my first cleanout of the cooling chamber. I had noticed the slightest amount of resistance in the draw so I thought I would take a closer look. By far, the area that appears to get the biggest build up was underneath the screen in the cooling unit. Everything else had a moderate layer of goo but removing the screen seems important to keep things pulling as new. Cleaning the screen, of course, was straightforward and also helpful.

Being one who likes to be prepared, we have a wear and tear set to have spares of the most commonly replaceable parts. We've also ordered a few spare loading pucks to have different varieties at the ready when we are ready to switch flavors. I've got a second shredder coming so I have a squeaky clean one when the other gets gummed up. I'm looking at the Santa Cruz shredder but I'm holding off because it seems the biggest problem with shredders is their performance when they get sticky. A quick run of rubbing alcohol clears it right up so it seems prudent to just have a clean spare at the ready.

In addition to being a great vape, I like that S&B has developed a "system" of sorts that is very usable and minimizes disruption to the experience. Here's hoping our unit survives the test of time.

h3rbalist said:

If that's not an actual real strain, it shoud be.

No plastic taste here bro. Crafty has been the tastiest vape I have used. If it's bad for you then there could be broken plastic in there, I guess. These units can be brittle in places.

Send it back.

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So after a long weekend without my crafty (damn j doesn't taste good after a while with crafty ) i called the shop where i bought the crafty and they also found it strange that i was having an aftertaste. So i'm sending it back first thing tomorrow.

It indeed is the tastiest vape! really can't compare it to the arizer air i first tried (sorry air fans ^^), those first days where way too nice! But after the last try i did last friday where i got a irritated throat and a headache (only at 180°C) i wasn't gonna risk it again.

Still thanks for the reply cause like @adam_baumm said it could've been a 'high - panic - oh no something is wrong' situation. But i only tested while completly sober and after 10 years i would now better. ^^ Just needed some proof for myself that there was something wrong and it isn't just my own (probably messed up because years smoking) taste playing tricks on me.

So now i hope i get it back soon or a new unit.. I can almost cry

SoulHerb said:

So after a long weekend without my crafty (damn j doesn't taste good after a while with crafty ) i called the shop where i bought the crafty and they also found it strange that i was having an aftertaste. So i'm sending it back first thing tomorrow.

It indeed is the tastiest vape! really can't compare it to the arizer air i first tried (sorry air fans ^^), those first days where way too nice! But after the last try i did last friday where i got a irritated throat and a headache (only at 180°C) i wasn't gonna risk it again.

Still thanks for the reply cause like @adam_baumm said it could've been a 'high - panic - oh no something is wrong' situation. But i only tested while completly sober and after 10 years i would now better. ^^ Just needed some proof for myself that there was something wrong and it isn't just my own (probably messed up because years smoking) taste playing tricks on me.

So now i hope i get it back soon or a new unit.. I can almost cry

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My crafty has tasted like plastic since the day I got it. I've had it about 3 weeks now and I still get a plastic taste when vaping, but it's slowly going away. I wonder if I have a bad unit? Should there not be a plastic taste at all?

Just got my crafty back. On firmware 2.06 now.......

Joe557 said:

My crafty has tasted like plastic since the day I got it. I've had it about 3 weeks now and I still get a plastic taste when vaping, but it's slowly going away. I wonder if I have a bad unit? Should there not be a plastic taste at all?

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I first called the shop where i bought the vaporizer today. On the phone i got a guy that has been using vaporizers for years and he said it's not normal for the crafty to have a plastic taste. I was the first one he ever spoke to who called for having that problem (he didn't now if there where a lot of others). They also asked me to call storz & bickel, so i did. they told me to send the unit back because it's not normal and could be really bad for your health (slow-melting/burning plastic, chemicals, etc it's kinda logical.. burning/melting plastic is REALY BAD). The shop where i bought it is gonna check it when they get it and if it's a bad unit i'm getting a new one (i still have 30 days money back guarantee).

I'd rather be safe sending it back and getting the news that nothings wrong with it and that its just me focussing on that taste (or maybe smell of the hot air?), instead of smoking it for years and burning my lungs to pieces with burned plastic..

Also today i noticed that one of the blue rings (the one in the cooling unit) has cuts in it and is kinda melted (not heavy but it felt a bit dried out) it broke immediately when i did it off the holder. Maybe thats what gave me a bad taste. Only have it a week and that ring already broken so thats really weird in my eyes.

Hope this helps you out and doesn't make you paranoid, the guy i spoke to said it's really rare for having an weird taste.
Stay healthy, it's the purpose of switching to vaporizers.

Best of wishes with your unit. We have talked about seating the o ring inside the CU all the way down, use the orange tool, or it will be sliced by the mighty/crafty logo that slides.