URGENT Have you vaped moldy weed?

nopartofme

Over the falls, in a barrel
Presuming you've gotten rid of the visible white bubbles (fungal colonies) and the mold was on the surface (not burrowed extensively under the surface, throughout buds), simply 'sterilize' or kill all living fungi and other microorganisms by heat (also drying the material and activating THC) -- put it in an oven say at 200˚F for say 20 minutes. Then, optionally (not really needed), shaking and blowing gently on and/or screening your material will further get rid of any loose inhalable (but dead) spores and broken dehydrated mold mycelia. And of course, seal your herb while warm and dry (don't let it adsorb moisture from the air).

This way fungal (and also parasite, bacterial and viral) inhalation infection risks are simply nonexistent!
Do you happen to have any sources to back up the conclusion that this will definitively eliminate any health risks? I just can't feel comfortable getting near anything that's been touched by mold, nor recommending to anyone else that it's safe for them to it breathe into their lungs no matter what possible treatment might be considered.

My own fear is two-fold, given I have mold allergy to worry about in addition to the usual health concerns. So I lean toward "nuke it from orbit" when it comes to considering how to deal with any given mold incident...
 

ladysmoke420

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Has anyone had experience with ovening marijuana bud (heat treatment)

I ovened some @ 150C and just wondering if the bud is supposed to go browner in color

Also noticed the THC glands/crystals are similar in color so hopefully they haven't lost potency in 150C?
 
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vap999

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Do you happen to have any sources to back up the conclusion that this will definitively eliminate any health risks? I just can't feel comfortable getting near anything that's been touched by mold, nor recommending to anyone else that it's safe for them to it breathe into their lungs no matter what possible treatment might be considered.

My own fear is two-fold, given I have mold allergy to worry about in addition to the usual health concerns. So I lean toward "nuke it from orbit" when it comes to considering how to deal with any given mold incident...


Obviously if you have a mold allergy, you should not be exposed to any relevant mold allergens. That is, you shouldn't go near anything you know to have mold (of the type you've been diagnosed as allergic to).

But as I noted, essentially sterilizing this herbal material, heating/baking it much as you might food (up to low 200˚F for ≥20 minutes) will get rid of all living organism potential hazards (including bacteria, fungi/mold, insects, protozoa, spores, viruses, pollen, spiders; and deactivate most or all natural toxins too). I can't provide references for this -- It's just basic to civilization. The main reason we heat food before eating (or canning/preserving) it is to sterilize it (kill everything) and deactivate any residual biologically active proteins (enzymes, toxins). Treating "moldy" herb much as one would other vegetables, fruit, herbs, etc. should be good enough (for those not actually allergic). I don't see the problem or solution being much different from say cutting off a surface molded part of a piece of bread, fruit, cheese, vegetable, etc., then baking the remainder (the clean-up and bake regimen I suggested), then consuming it.
 
vap999,

nopartofme

Over the falls, in a barrel
I don't see the problem or solution being much different from say cutting off a surface molded part of a piece of bread, fruit, cheese, vegetable, etc., then baking the remainder (the clean-up and bake regimen I suggested), then consuming it.
That's the thing, I had always heard that you should not do exactly that with food, regardless of allergies. The "surface mold" is only a fruiting body, and removing it does not remove the mold from the food any more than cutting down a tree would remove its roots from the ground. Except in this case it isn't really "roots" we're worried about, it's the majority of the mold organism that remains.

Given the health risks, I'd need to see a peer-reviewed study indicating that all mycotoxins, and any other potentially harmful substances, would be killed by the temperatures we're talking about. Cooking is used to kill bacteria, but there are bacteria that can survive those temperatures.

Even then, using heat to potentially remove the health risk would still leave behind the "sterilized corpse" or decomposed byproducts of the mold inside your herb. Even if that doesn't pose a hazard to health, I think most would agree that the idea of ingesting, vaping, or smoking it doesn't sound appealing...
 
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SalamiCity

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The best thing you could do with moldy material is make BHO and heat purge. DRY the hell out of your material in a food dehydrator, the BHO process will take your your moldy material well below freezing and filter it, and you can take your heat up to 140ºF/60ºC IMHO without much damage to the treat or noticing the mold.



Here are the temperatures for activating these key elements.

At 50°C (122°F) THC-Acid decarboxylates as the water molecule held in the carbonate form evaporates. This activates the THC.
At 66°C (150°F) Cannabidiol (CBD) melts and starts to evaporate.
At 185°C (365°F) Cannibinol (CBN) boils.
At 200°C (392°F) THC boils. Clear vapor from a vaporizer.
500-700°C (932-1292°F) combustion temperature.

These temps are EXTREMELY wrong, Hornsby doesn't know what he's talking about(the volcano "doctor").

157C is 300.2F which is the flash point for THC.

Combustion occurs at 446F/230C.

http://mcforadhd.free.fr/McPartland-Russo-JCANT 1(3-4)-2001.pdf

Page 9 please.



I would challenge ANYONE to vape at 600F.


Just get rid of the mold, or talk to Gray Wolf, we cannot keep giving you advice if you are going to ignore it. It might be 400$ down the drain, but I'm curious how people forget about stashes.


People like to go play treasure hunt with their stash, and end up losing it... Just keep it near you lol.
 
Take it from one who has had the experience - DUMP IT ALL! DO NOT SMOKE OR VAPE! Couldn't get rid of heavy lung infection for almost 2 years. Ended up invading the whole body in numerous hideous ways. Compromised immune system big time! SAY NO TO MOLD!!!

Snappo, I'd welcome any advice you might have for someone who may have come down with a similar heavy sinus and/or lung infection. At first I thought it was heartburn but the headaches were so bad. My doctor prescribed antibiotics and flonaise which seemed to be working. I then vaped the same weed again, not realizing it was the cause. And now my chest hurts like hell and if jog my headache flares. Sound familiar?
 
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Snappo

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Snappo, I'd welcome any advice you might have for someone who may have come down with a similar heavy sinus and/or lung infection. At first I thought it was heartburn but the headaches were so bad. My doctor prescribed antibiotics and flonaise which seemed to be working. I then vaped the same weed again, not realizing it was the cause. And now my chest hurts like hell and if jog my headache flares. Sound familiar?
Only time and clean living will get you through. The doctors will not. Good luck!
 

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Thanks. Did you use any antifungal meds?
None. Drank LOTS of water to hydrate and help keep lungs clear; vigorous daily exercise causing LOTS of sweat; tons of veggy and fruit juices; reduced sugar and alcohol intake - body & time did the rest!
 
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