SSV / DBV / LSV ?

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I have NOT tried any of the above vaporizers. That's why I would like your help :tup:

Guys, I am equally excited and upset at the same time. Excited because we have so many different types of vapes to choose from. Upset, however, because I know I want something from 7th Floor but can't make up my damn mind!

So I'm going to reference each of the three vapes in question and provide what's keeping me from buying it. Please remember that I really like these vaporizers so I won't clutter my post with those details. Please help if you can. Let's begin, in no particular order:

SSV - The most expensive of the bunch. I'm sure it's great based on all the positive feedback but I'm the kind of guy that likes to get the most out of my money. All the upgrades, custom glass, etc. are cool and all but I just want something that works without a lot of bells and whistles. Probably not the best for vapor bonging because I would get both the standard hc as well as the gong (don't even know much about spherical, perhaps it is worth looking into) and the idea of switching hc's for when I'm using the bong and not just seems rather annoying.

DBV - The SSV has all American parts while the DBV uses some parts sourced from overseas. Aesthetically it's horrible, the SSV is a lot sexier. And while we're on the subject, the idea of a whip style vaporizer just seems more and more archaic the further we go along.

LSV - This is probably my best bet since I travel and really enjoy the outdoors. All glass and no whip is great too. But I've heard it gets really hot to handle and probably cannot be used for long vape sessions. I believe the LSV is also made of 100% American parts, is this correct? Is there a way to better handle the LSV if in fact it gets really hot on the outside?

Guys, thanks for reading this far. My last question is:

"Is there any difference between the high when using a SSV, DBV, or LSV? If they all use the same heating element and made by the same company and all things equal ..... does the difference in models truly lead to a different high between them all?"

Thanks you guys, i truly look forward to your advice :peace:
 
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mmenzie

mmenzie

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I have a DBV and i love it!!! have had it for years and it still provides me enjoyment till this day. i use it EVERYDAY!!! i use it native style (just using the whip) and lately i have been using it with mt ZOB bubbler for some AWESOME vape bonging hits. you say it's not aesthetically pleasing??? i don't agree but that is a personal opinion and i wont even begin to try and sway you on that point. You say you like the SSV but don't like all the add on bells and whistles?? you say you using it with a bong will be annoying with all the changes?? well i have none of those issues with my DBV. it comes plain (no extra fancy glass i.e. heater dial knob on the SSV is glass) and with the ground glass heater cover i can stick the whip in and it stays so i can use both hands when i use my bubbler. no annoyances there.

i have stated why i LOVE my DBV but the choice is yours to make.
 
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Quetzalcoatl

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Glass and outdoors, you're gonna have to be careful. Personally I would go for the SSV, but the DBV will do you just fine as well. If you find whips to be too old-school (something I don't personally agree with), you might do well to look into the Arizer Extreme Q, which does both bags and whips on top of being an excellent choice.
 
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vapeguy

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I was just looking for a vaporizer to replace my Volcano, so I had pretty high standards. I had the SSV as my #1 choice until someone showed me the LSV which immediately became my #1 choice and I ordered it hours ago.

The reasons I chose the LSV over the SSV are:
-One hand operation, you don't have to hold both ends of a whip leaving you with no free hands
-Don't have to remove a hot glass part on a tube and carefully lay it down without spilling herb all the time which is what really put me off from the SSV
-Handheld "all in one" device (when used with the wand) so it can easily be passed between friends
-No additional purchases required for using with a water pipe and probably also better for this type of use

I think the LSV is the best and easiest to use design among those at least for me which is why it was the clear winner over the SSV for me, but I honestly barely considered the DBV after seeing the LSV.
 
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mmenzie

mmenzie

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aab1 said:
I was just looking for a vaporizer to replace my Volcano, so I had pretty high standards. I had the SSV as my #1 choice until someone showed me the LSV which immediately became my #1 choice and I ordered it hours ago.

The reasons I chose the LSV over the SSV are:
-One hand operation, you don't have to hold both ends of a whip leaving you with no free hands
-Don't have to remove a hot glass part on a tube and carefully lay it down without spilling herb all the time which is what really put me off from the SSV
-Handheld "all in one" device (when used with the wand) so it can easily be passed between friends
-No additional purchases required for using with a water pipe and probably also better for this type of use

I think the LSV is the best and easiest to use design among those at least for me which is why it was the clear winner over the SSV for me, but I honestly barely considered the DBV after seeing the LSV.
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great choice you made and i am sure you will be happy with it but i did want to point out some contradictions when it comes to the DBV:

one handed operation - The DBV does this natively with no addons... the ground glass wand and ground glass heater cover hold together giving you a "hands free" operation

don't have to remove a hot glass part on a tube and carefully lay it down without spilling herb - as with my first point you don't need to remove it, but if you do it is very simple to coil the tube and lay the wand on the tube at an angle so the herb does not come out

Handheld all in one device - can't say anything about that compared to the DBV cause that is what the LSV is designed for

no additional purchases required for using with a water pipe - the DBV can use the SSV's water pipe attachment for using with bongs BUT it is NOT necessary. you can stick the hose directly into the bong if your bong has a 14mm joint no attachment necessary

 
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I own a SSV & a DBV. Never tried the LSV. The SSV was actually my very first vape. I loved it and only replaced it with its cheaper lil brother the DBV when a lightning storm completely fried my SSV. It is now strictly on my bookshelf for looks. The glass aroma top dish now is a nifty stand for a glass globe I blew myself at a local workshop. The DBV although not as aestheticly pleasing is in every way capable of delivering meds in the same manner. Both are Super Big hitters that will produce large clouds. The heater covers are strictly for your preference. I have found the groundglass hands free option the best. The hc has no effect on hooking up to a bong. Both are whip style vapes. One end of whip is attached to a wand(either gg, spherical, or original design) that sits near the heater, the other end of whip is where you'd either draw in air via natural method, or hook up a bong attachment that the hose would slip over. I prefer hooking up to my inline a/c with a J-hook, simple in style and good with diffusion. Let the amber color build up on your wand, then when it's no longer "see-through" ISO wash it, evaporate the ISO and then you have free hash oil that is high in cbd/cbn goodness!! Hope this has helped in your decision making process. :)
 
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TDA said:
"Is there any difference between the high when using a SSV, DBV, or LSV?"
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Theoretically no, but each model will deliver a different vapor/air ratio. So it's plausable. If you take big fat huge cloud rips, you might exhale more than your lungs can absorb. It's all based on your ability to efficiently use the vape to fit your needs/wants. And as far as I know, there is no scientific evidence on how vapor is absorbed, so this is all from what I've read and experienced myself.

I have no experience with the DBV or LSV, but I own the SSV ground glass HC and wand (along w/standard and spherical GG). No matter which one you choose, you will quickly find that to get the most out of a bowl, you must constantly stir the contents. As much as hands-free sounds appealing, you still have to remove, stir, replace every other hit, kinda defeating the purpose of "hands-free". Out of all three wands, its my least used and I vaporbong 99% of the time.

The LSV sounds like your best fit if you don't like the idea of a whip. Or look into The Cloud, :D
 
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I have an ssv also with a standard hc, I vapor bong 99% of the time too. IMO it's not a bother some to hold the wand in one hand and my glass tool in the other. I also like the control I have over the air in the wand by being able to "steer it" I can stir a bit less often if needed. Which is normally only if I am trying not to disturb a layer of hash on the top, other wise I am somewhat compulsive with my stirring. I think it helps get the most taste and even vapor per wand. I don't know what your needs are but I am a medical user and sometimes I need to medicate quickly, my ssv is ready to go at vaping temp 16 hrs a day when I am home. :2c:
 
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Mynameismud

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I had an ssv a while ago, loved it as one of my first vapes, also had an LSV for a couple months...id probably go with the LSV if i had to again, just wish it was battery powered though
 
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Bouldorado

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If you want to use your vape with a bong, get the lsv. Otherwise if you just plan to hit it dry, get one of the whip vapes. I've owned both dbv and ssv (both ground glass) and the hit is identical. Buying the ssv is like buying the "sports" package from some car manufacturers: you get some extra chrome and a bodykit, but otherwise there is no performance upgrade.
 
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mmenzie

mmenzie

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Bouldorado said:
If you want to use your vape with a bong, get the lsv. Otherwise if you just plan to hit it dry, get one of the whip vapes. I've owned both dbv and ssv (both ground glass) and the hit is identical. Buying the ssv is like buying the "sports" package from some car manufacturers: you get some extra chrome and a bodykit, but otherwise there is no performance upgrade.
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you can use the DBV with a bong too... i do it everyday. no issue here and i love the hit!!
 
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TDA

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There's a lot of great comparative info here and I'm ecstatic to announce that I went ahead and purchased a vaporizer! Moments after posting this thread, I decided to call 7th Floor. Long story short.....I got one :tup:

I'll be receiving it very soon and will post my findings no later than this Friday. The 7th Floor guys are really cool and everything about the experience was upfront and friendly. I can't wait!!!
 
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Tweak

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TDA said:
There's a lot of great comparative info here and I'm ecstatic to announce that I went ahead and purchased a vaporizer!
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Awesome dude!!!

I take it you have some glass to pair it with?

Welcome to vaping. I wish I woulda switched years ago.
 
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hoptimum

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Puffers said:
I have an ssv also with a standard hc, I vapor bong 99% of the time too. IMO it's not a bother some to hold the wand in one hand and my glass tool in the other. I also like the control I have over the air in the wand by being able to "steer it" I can stir a bit less often if needed. Which is normally only if I am trying not to disturb a layer of hash on the top, other wise I am somewhat compulsive with my stirring. I think it helps get the most taste and even vapor per wand. I don't know what your needs are but I am a medical user and sometimes I need to medicate quickly, my ssv is ready to go at vaping temp 16 hrs a day when I am home. :2c:
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Sorry to digress, but can I ask how you load your bowl with hash? What sort of hash do you use and do you break it up really small and place it on a bed of herb? If so, do you raise the temperature to vape the hash? I've tried kief in my Buddah, but so far not hash. Thanks in advance.
 
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Puffers

Puffers

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In my ssv I use wand hash or bubble hash, I usually put it on a fresh load (bubble) or after I vape off the initial terpenes (wand hash) getting most of the tasty hits out then put some small pieces of hash on the top. I try not to disturb the hash on the top for a cpl hits to let it melt in (depending on quality) and then slowly mix it into mostly just the top layer so it doesn't get too buried under plant material. I can normally get a load to last 2x as long as normal, and usually it still giving clouds but it's not as tasty any more so I toss it to reclaim later. Reduce reuse recycle :lol: I haven't tried a whole load of just hash cause it's not the cheapest stuff but larger chunks you can break up smaller to give you more surface area after a cpl hits. Hash dirties and clogs your screen quick though.

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mmenzie said:
you can use the DBV with a bong too... i do it everyday. no issue here and i love the hit!!
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That's true. If you blindfolded me and gave me a vape-bong hit from both the dbv and lsv, I probably couldn't distinguish between the two. However, I feel the lsv bowl design is easier to load/stir, plus when I owned the whip vapes, I had a tendency to spill the load when setting the whip down.
 
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TDA said:
I have NOT tried any of the above vaporizers. That's why I would like your help :tup:


LSV - This is probably my best bet since I travel and really enjoy the outdoors. All glass and no whip is great too. But I've heard it gets really hot to handle and probably cannot be used for long vape sessions. I believe the LSV is also made of 100% American parts, is this correct? Is there a way to better handle the LSV if in fact it gets really hot on the outside?


Hey there. I do have an LSV and love it. I too did a ton of research on it and ended up between LSV and SSV. I may get an SSV someday but the versatlity of the LSV is awesome.
It is my first vaporizer but I have had great success as soon as I got it even though I had never even vaped... Partly because of doing so much research on how to properly vape and because the LSV is so easy to use.

The issue of it getting hot has only been a problem when I have it on for long sessions and leave it sitting, I believe because of the heat build up from no air circulating from usage. Meaning that using it keeps it cooler, make sense? Letting it sit builds up heat, but only after like 15 minutes, and that only happens when I get so lit I forget... It can get really hot though, not too hot for ME to handle, but for me it has only done so under the above circumstances, remedied quickly by turning down the temp for a few.
Can't speak for the American made parts but I believe they build them in there shop in Colorado Springs. Mine took 6 days to ship and they said it because of custom build they were doing...
I also got it because partly because of portability and think using it outside is fine, it is just a glass rod, of course you have to be careful and use common sense, the glass transfer wand is not gonna break from landing on grass, etc...
The WPA for the LSV is sick, it really makes using a bong like smoking, as far as it produces full bongs of vapor and if your not careful you will choke the hell out of yo'self!:smug:
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SnowSquirrel

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TDA said:
There's a lot of great comparative info here and I'm ecstatic to announce that I went ahead and purchased a vaporizer! Moments after posting this thread, I decided to call 7th Floor. Long story short.....I got one :tup:

I'll be receiving it very soon and will post my findings no later than this Friday. The 7th Floor guys are really cool and everything about the experience was upfront and friendly. I can't wait!!!
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What was your choice did you make???:shrug:
 
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FLskwat

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The SSV in standard glass has hand-down the natural lowest air to vape ratio (and I'm selling all 7th floor catalog on my shop so I have used & tested them all)!

It is simple as the heat exit hole in the HC of a standard glass is much more small then a DBV, an LSV or a GG & SGG SSV!
You may like less thick vapor clouds but just for that I will always go SSV standard glass > to all the rest of 7th floor products IMO.
 
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FLskwat said:
The SSV in standard glass has hand-down the natural lowest air to vape ratio (and I'm selling all 7th floor catalog on my shop so I have used & tested them all)!

It is simple as the heat exit hole in the HC of a standard glass is much more small then a DBV, an LSV or a GG & SGG SSV!
You may like less thick vapor clouds but just for that I will always go SSV standard glass > to all the rest of 7th floor products IMO.
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Good to know I am rocking the creme de la creme :lol:
 
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Drum rollllllllllll please! I bought the SSV :evil:

But here's the toughy: Do I really know what the hell I'm doing??? Yeah, it just seems that the only time I really feel like I'm vaping is when the dial is turned all the way up. That's strange cuz I always thought between 12-3 o'clock would be ideal.

I purchased the Rainbow Zen w/ upgraded SGG and WPA. She's a beauty! I know it's only been a day and it's gonna be like learning to drive stick again but I really hope I'm heading in the right direction when it comes to vaping correctly.

For those of you who have a SSV, can ya give me some helpful hints to make sure I'm vaping correctly and that my vape is not a lemon? Maybe I should have stuck with standard instead of spherical? Perhaps my technique may be off? You know, stuff like that :peace:
 
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Usually having to turn it all the way up means it's not functioning as it should. But perhaps it's something else. How much do you load for instance, & do you inhale really fast perhaps? Sometimes the heating element sits real low too, try removing the heater cover and gently pull it up as far as it goes without touching the glass of the heater cover when you put it back.

I don't know the ideal load for the spherical but I think 0,2 gram shouldn't be to far off. Don't pack it to tight & try a steady slow inhale. If the load doesn't go black on full blast that way I'm afraid you may have to contact 7thfloor.
 
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