Extreme-Q or Da Buddha as a WHIP!!!

This topic has probably been beat to a pulp and I have read several forums on these two vaporizers but there is a HINT of hesitation on my part everytime I want to place the order. It's a lot of money so I want to get this shit right....

I can buy either one so budget isn't an issue. Bag option would be nice. BUT can we safely all say that the Da Buddha whip is actually better/tastier than the extreme-q whip? IMO, da buddha might be easier to use initially cuz the chamber size but once the amount and process is down for the extreme, it should be the same, NO?? Please do elaborate for those that have experience.

Also, read around a couple of forums saying the digital circuitry has a higher chance of error compared to analog. However, in my engineering experience, digital circuitry has a more accurate tolerance for the sensor and heater, so it would be more accurate.

To me, it would be safe to say that pound for pound (whip vs whip), the extreme is just the same as the DB, if not better (more accurate). And I'm not even considering the bag option, fan, remote, etc. as factors when I make this statement.

To the people who used both, please do inform without bias if u can as to which conserves more and tastes better as a whip....

Maybe this will lead me to finally get this vap, lol. I keep going back and forth cuz of the cons i came across from my research. I summed up, IMO, that Extreme Q has thinner glass components which might break, DB has a uncalibrated knob/temperature control which might need to be sent in for repair. I beleive in getting things made right the first time. A glass fracture seems like something I can live with as opposed to getting my temp control all outta control and having to send it in. More of a hassle even tho it has the warrenty.

Thanks for the input...

Glad to see you made it over here, Kronic. You should get some valuable input here.

BUT can we safely all say that the Da Buddha whip is actually better/tastier than the extreme-q whip?

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IMO it's neither better nor more tasty. From my experience (and others do seem to agree) it's more a matter of vapor/air ratio. The Extreme has larger airways (the cylone bowl design also contributes) so you'll get more air per hit than with the DBV, or any whip vape with the traditional whip/bowl design. Packing the elbow screen instead of using the bowl delivers a more vapor rich hit though, so this method can even things out quite a bit.

digital circuitry has a more accurate tolerance for the sensor and heater, so it would be more accurate.

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Accuracy with digital depends on more than just the display. The cheap boxes with digital don't give you that 'more', so they're not accurate or reliable. When the cheap display dies, so does the vape, while an analog keeps chugging along. The Extreme, at the $300 price point, is where you actually get an advantage with digital. Unfortunately, Arizer chose to locate the heat sensor at the heater, so the temp displayed was inaccurate for vaping temp. Two more moves of the sensor made things even more confusing, thus versions 1,2, and 3. IMO a display temp should be used for a reference point, rather than a dead cert vaping temp. Too many variables are involved, including the strength of the draw vs. the vape's ability to quickly recover the selected temp.

which conserves more and tastes better

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Personally, I didn't notice a difference in taste. Others may have. The E has more glass, but the DBV's vapor path only hits the glass heater tube and the heating element. There may be more taste improvement involved in upgrading the tubing to silicone. As for efficiency, both are equally capable IMO. It's a matter of adapting to the particular design and just making sure you get all your herb vaped. I think it's more efficient to start vaping at a lower temp (even if you prefer higher temp vapor), and move the temp up, than to set it high right away. I've found that I go through a bowl very quickly at a high temp setting. For good efficiency it's always a good idea to take your hits small enough so that you can process them. Exhaling big clouds of vapor is always a cool effect, but you can't absorb a lungful of vapor in seconds. People have gotten ripped off of nothing but exhaled vapor, so there is a plus to taking hits you can hold for a bit.

DB has a uncalibrated knob/temperature control which might need to be sent in for repair.

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Not uncalibrated. Every temp control for a particular model should have the same properties. Although it can go bad, it hasn't been a big issue. What can be out of alignment, from one unit to another, is where the control knob is placed on the shaft. Some units have turned on at 7-8 o'clock, others at 12. You can take the knob off and position the marker at any point you want. IMO all analog vapes with a dial control should turn on at 6-8 o'clock, with a 'good vapor range' at 11-1. But since temp controls aren't all designed the same, that's not really practical. With any vape, you should find the vapor range by starting low, where you first start to get vapor, and find the high end, where your remains are a very dark brown to black color. No matter what the dial says, or the digital display, that's your vaping range, for your particular unit. If a digital vape gives you good vapor and light to medium brown ABV and displays 200F, or 500F, it just means you're not getting real vaping temp, and you should just use the number on display as a reference point.

A fellow islander sup dude! Thought i'd be the only one here forever lol

you from Oahu?

Sorry no input on vape choice, I have no experience with either, but have an ssv on the way.

I was in your position at one time.. long long ago. I chose the Extreme for all the reasons you already pointed out and haven't looked back. One thing you have not mentioned is the fact that with a digital temp. control you have the ability to go back to an exact temp. setting, where with analog temp. control you are just eyeballing a point on the knob and guesstimating a temp. setting you are trying to go back to from earlier. When packing the elbow on the Extreme I see no advantage the Budda has except price, which is being held down by being made in China vs. Canada for the Extreme.

Here's a shot -

this fall, my buddy bought a DBV, but couldn't keep it at his house, because of the wife. So, i got it.

I had it for a few months and then in early january i decided i needed my own vaporizer and bought my extreme q.

How is the Extreme Q better?

-Bags are really nice, and a sweet option.

-The fan is a plus when using the whip, especially if you use a long tube, 5-6 feet or more.

-it's a little flashier, but the options are nice, especially the remote control (the dashboard control for the extreme is a piece of cake, too).

-The screens are easier to use and clean than in the DBV, making the process easier.

How is the DBV better?

-The DBV is ready to use almost instantly. Seriously, it's less time than you think.

-The tube on the DBV is bigger in diameter so you can draw more air through it, more easily.

-I was going to say that the DBV is more economical in a "real politik" sort of way because bags use more herb than whips, but the elbow packed bowls on the Extreme are at least the equal of the DBV so this point is really a draw.

Why choose the Extreme Q over the DBV?

There is what i consider a major design flaw with the DBV. The sidemounted whip is prone to coming free of the DaBuddha and spilling. It's terribly annoying to lose a whole bowl of herb to the floor monster and then see the Ouch-So-Hot whip swing towards you(remember, you're holding the other end).

I haven't had this problem once with the Extreme and it's a big problem.

In conclusion, the Extreme performs better than or equal to the DBV without an issue.

The Buddha is a great device and I'd recommend it, but not if the ExtremeQ is an option.

Dude I have a Da Buddha and totally know what your talking about with it falling... What I did was tie a shoelace tight around the bowl right before it raises for the gong connection, if u know what I'm talking about? Then I used that same shoelace to tie fairly tight around da buddha... This can slip off easy, but slides down enough it will NOT slip off on its own... this works really well for me. Mainly cause I placed round knob type things on the bottom that raised the backside, so the knobside points downward.

Also, u could try to make a piece like the SSV piece... I tried but mine did not turn out so well. Anyways, I too plan to convert over to the Extreme Q.

edit: I hear the Extreme has larger diameter airpath, I believe? therefore the hits are slightly airier, no? either way, I'll have both and I love my Da Buddha sooo.

A solution for the DBV problem is this - Take a piece of thick grade wire and wrap it around in the DBV casing so that the wire sticks out along the whip and then hook the end.

Next wrap a piece of wire around the whip, tight, with a free end of the wire sticking up to catch in the hook you made in the other wire. Problem solved sort of...

I used the DBV without a tube a lot of the time, simply lifting the unit to my mouth and hitting off the whip directly.

Obviously, anything other than direct out of the box, easy use is less convenient.

When i first decided for the extreme, it was to have as many features as possible and I thought I would be using the whip as much as the bag but once I tried the bag out, I became accustomed to letting the vapor fill up and could let it sit in the water pipe since its gong. In between hits if needed. The remote is quite useful too.