The Firefly 2 vaporizer

[mitchgo61]

Here's a problem no one has reported, though Firefly has confirmed it. This has happened to me three times, always after a session. I would touch both buttons, the green led would light, and then go off. At first I thought one finger slipped off the button or it was just blinking. But I couldn't get the led to light. Once I waited overnight and still the same problem. The work-around, as confirmed by Firefly, is to pop the battery and then reseat it.

Been mentioned many times, including the last two pages. It's all part of the various "battery quirk" issues. They are working on a firmware update that should address these various battery/meter issues.

I don't want to sound redundant, but this is still not an issue to me. It rarely happens and is easily remedied.

Totally agree. It's annoying, but hardly major.

 

[Pharoh]

The firefly performed well on my weekend trip. I'm still on the same battery since Thursday with light daily use of 1-2 sessions with a friend per day. I did have an odd battery incident that sounds similar to what others have mentioned. On Saturday I went to use the FF2 and it was unresponsive. A simple re-seating of the battery got things back in working order. I'm still on that battery, so I know it wasn't low on juice. This has me wondering if people's batteries are actually running out or just hitting this bug. I'm currently getting 4 blue blinks and have full battery in the app. I've never seen otherwise, though. Heavy-hitters may have issues with battery on this thing but moderate users should have no problems. EDIT: Thurs, Fri, Sat I used medium heat and Mon/Tues I used concentrate. Last night's concentrate session got things pretty hot.

The last few days I've been pressing rosin and the FF seems to handle it very well on concentrate mode. I've never used concentrates before, so nothing to compare it to. Not sold on rosin for regular use, but it is very easy to transport and quite tasty.

Regarding the filter in the mouthpiece, I can't understand where many of you are coming from. In my unit, there is no way that it is the most restrictive part of the airflow. There is virtually no difference in pull resistance when its in vs out unless the lid is off, whereas taking the lid off with the screen in seriously opens up airflow. Second, IME, increasing the airflow is the last thing you want to do for cloud production. I can't help but think you guys are witnessing other variations in your technique/materials. At least in my case, if you are pulling hard enough that you feel the flow is restrictive, you are pulling too hard. You need to self-regulate to get the best result. Otherwise it sounds like there is wild sample variation and we are using practically different devices.

Without the mouthpiece screen it pulls much easier...The screen creates resistance..laws of physics...

 

[pahjay]

Red unit shipped today!

 

[jdent3]

Red unit shipped today!

When did you order?

 

[creationdivine]

To anyone trying to get a hold of Firefly customer service through email for any sort of issue -if you have the time, give them a call (206) 418-6565. I made a case last Wednesday for a faulty FF2 that never got replied to. I called them this afternoon and I was sent a return address promptly. Little bit of a bummer FF makes its customers pay the shipping fee for returning a faulty unit. It's definitely causing the VAS to flair up more than usual. I'll survive though.

 

[greenextinguisher]

Without the mouthpiece screen it pulls much easier...The screen creates resistance..laws of physics...

Yes, I'm not entirely an idiot. I'm am operating under the assumption that you put your mouthpiece in your firefly, though. While the aerodynamics of the screen are inefficient and obviously create drag, the friction is much greater in the pathway before it reaches the screen. Its so much more restricted earlier in the path that having the screen in/out while the lid is on is not discernible to me in my unit. I just did it another dozen times. I'm sure it is having an impact that is measurable with the right equipment, but its not measurable with the amount of negative pressure my diaphragm produces sucking on the firefly.

The friction of the screen is clearly discernible and irrelevant with the lid off or the mouthpiece disconnected from the FF.

Maybe we have different screens or maybe your firefly is more aerodynamically efficient upstream from your mouthpiece. I can only tell you what I'm experiencing.

EDIT: btw, my larger point was, even if it does increase airflow, I'll argue that isn't what you want

 

[pahjay]

@jdent3 06/05 around 1pm

 

[Pears]

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EDIT: btw, my larger point was, even if it does increase airflow, I'll argue that isn't what you want

Eh what someone wants is all subjective so if it makes someone enjoy their product more I say go for it.


Does anyone know when there's going to be a restock on lids?

 

[The Natty Leprechaun]

I got my blue ff2 last Thursday June 2 and am still trying to figure out the best way to get good dense vapor . So far it seems like course ground/ hand torn and loosely packed is the way to go and I accidentally removed the screen when cleaning the mouth piece and left it out I like the less resistance . When the screen was in I would get light headed and less vapor.
I also noticed the new vape smell when I first opened it up I noticed some residue on the glass where the silicone seal sits when the lid is closed a very small amount you could only see when turning in the light.
I wiped it all down with alcohol wipes left it open to air out for a few hours and the smell seemed to almost go away just a tiny barely noticeable hint left.
Fully charged the battery with my iPad charging block I didn't realize that you do not get a usb charging block included in the ff2. For the price of this vape you would think they would include one and a printed owners manual would be nice too.
The taste from this vape is amazing and the only thing it smells like now is sweet honey oil
The magnets on the lid seem strong I have to hold the bottom half of the ff down when replacing the lid because if not when the lid is a half inch away the whole thing lifts off the table up to the lid.

The biggest problem I have with this vape is the battery life sucks I only get a bowl and a half per battery on both batteries. I do use it on high 75% of the time and once I used the concentrate setting with some of the reclaim/honey oil that is left in the vapor path I scraped it off and put it on a pad and o was that nice
And I am not sure but one time when I was charging I swear the bowl was cooking the herb because I didn't see any glow from the bowl but the color of the herb before and after putting on the charger was much different it was very dark and nothing left to vape and the vape seemed warm and I could hear that buzz people where describing but that was the only time I heard that,and I have yet to get the Abv that dark from any of the other bowls I finish. So i only charge it on an empty bowl now or once I had the top off while charging
I also notice sporadically when I pick the ff2 up awhile after I last used it like an hour later the light goes right to solid green no warm up?
I have also had the bowl start glowing while I was cleaning it with alcohol wipes and was holding the sides that seems like a possible hazard is it supposed to activate with the top off
And the buttons seem to not work consistant like it takes awhile for them to sense I am touching them but just sometimes. I did notice this morning that it did that when the battery was low

 

[sch15m]

Hey guys, got my blue firefly. I don't think it works like its supposed to.
The light does not blink for three seconds until it becomes solid, there is absolutely no physical vapor in any temperature and I cant even taste it. I've tried three different bowls and I need to draw super hard for it to do anything. Am I doing something wrong?

 

[Bravesst]

Experimentation has begun, and far from automatic (not a bad thing). I realize, from my vape experience, I've got a lot to learn, especially in the grind, load Dept.

 

[mitchgo61]

Hey guys, got my blue firefly. I don't think it works like its supposed to.
The light does not blink for three seconds until it becomes solid, there is absolutely no physical vapor in any temperature and I cant even taste it. I've tried three different bowls and I need to draw super hard for it to do anything. Am I doing something wrong?

The light never pulses? So can you describe what it does?

Do you feel the unit get warm? See the glow in the bowl?

 

[sch15m]

The light never pulses? So can you describe what it does?

Do you feel the unit get warm? See the glow in the bowl?

The light never pulses, it remains static, i see the glow, I draw and after a while the unit gets really hot, i draw hard because drawing slow does absolutely nothing. I don't know if it's a learning curve thing or my unit is defective.

 

[vape4fun]

15 second count in your head on slow draw 5 seconds increase draw until it's like taking a binger. If that's not working your unit is bad. 15 seconds slow first. Do this three times in a row by third hit on high you are producing nice clouds or have defective unit.

 

[MikeMcSnipe]

Hey guys, got my blue firefly. I don't think it works like its supposed to.
The light does not blink for three seconds until it becomes solid, there is absolutely no physical vapor in any temperature and I cant even taste it. I've tried three different bowls and I need to draw super hard for it to do anything. Am I doing something wrong?

Hey man, ive had some weird blinking green light behavior, but my unit usually only blinks on the first hit after sitting for a while, which i think is the desired behavior. It never blinking is strange though, if the problem persists I would contact firefly support (don't email just call).

In regards to the vapor, try removing the mouthpiece, make sure you wait about 5 secs before starting your draw, then draw for at least 10 secs pretty slowly, and pick it up at the end for the last 5 secs (the unit may whistle a bit).

Another issue could be your grind. Be sure that you are hand grinding your material or at least getting a pretty course grind. Hoping this helps.

 

[mitchgo61]

The light never pulses, it remains static, i see the glow, I draw and after a while the unit gets really hot, i draw hard because drawing slow does absolutely nothing. I don't know if it's a learning curve thing or my unit is defective.

I agree with the other tips....and....does the draw feel restricted to you? If not you may not be getting a seal. Make sure both the lid and the mouthpiece are seated correctly.

 

[ArthurJ]

I had an odd thing the other day where I accidentally knocked it off the charger and it fell to the floor. When I picked it up the green light was on and the bowl was glowing, so of I hit it and then hit it again but the light wouldnt go off, so I removed the back and pulled out the battery. When I put the battery back, the problem seemed to resolve itself.

 

[Vapinmofo]

If you take the mouthpiece OFF and hit the FF2 there is very LITTLE resistance.
the whole point of the mouthpiece is to SLOW DOWN THE DRAW. Thats the whole point on this unit.
if you pull too hard. it doesn't work.

so as a system it is sensitive to blockage. because the draw resistance is already been reduced any herbal debris can cause the resistance to be less. TOO MUCH RESISTANCE in the draw. there is a fine line.
So keep the mouthpiece clean and free of herbal debris and BUILDUP.

Try pulling slower, also just tear the herbs with your fingers until a consistent but coarse "grind" is achieved.

The FF2 works and works well. You just need to draw slow and steady and grind coarse.

Vapinmofo

 

[collegeKid101]

So this is definitely a dumb question but has anybody thought of a secondary way to pass off their FF 2 in public? I was thinking like wrapping headphones around the bowl and pulling off the mp might make it look like an ipod or something like with the pax but chances of that actually working are pretty slim lol

 

[purplenurple24]

So this is definitely a dumb question but has anybody thought of a secondary way to pass off their FF 2 in public? I was thinking like wrapping headphones around the bowl and pulling off the mp might make it look like an ipod or something like with the pax but chances of that actually working are pretty slim lol

I've used mine "sparingly" in public, but I just loosely wrap my hand over the top of the device. It covers the bowl window and I can easily touch the button. Probably not much better than just hitting it normally, but it covers up most of the device. I could just be hitting a nicotine vape.

EDIT: Like this http://imgur.com/LZiw7TO

If you cup your hand, it shouldn't interfere with the lid and you can see the LED a little clearer if you block the sun (assuming you're outside)

 

[C4PO]

Got an update on my Bluetooth issues. FF support basically confirmed there is an incompatibility with the FF app on my device (Nexus 6P running N Preview). They're on the case and hope to have an update to the app by end of month.

 

[purplenurple24]

I just got another lid update from Firefly. They said that they should be in the warehouse later today or tomorrow. They also said that they have a "short list" of people who will be contacted when they're available.

I had also asked if the replacement mouthpieces would be available soon. They said they hadn't heard much yet, but they were hoping they would have them in 1-3 weeks.

Making progress, guys!

 

[jdent3]

Today I cancelled my Vapeworld preorder as they didn't seem to have a clue when the ff2 shipment was going to come in and said anywhere from 1-3 weeks. I ordered blue directly from Firefly this morning and I just got a shipping notification. It seems Firefly is pretty much caught up with preorders as most colours are shipping same day.

 

[pahjay]

@MikeMcSnipe @sch15m Just got my unit today. Mine does the same thing, It pulsed on the first heat up but it has remained static the rest of the time. I heard they were working on a firmware update to fix it because it is a software bug? My bowl heats up consistently, though. I haven't been able to actually try it with herb yet, and won't be able to until Sunday. One thing I have noticed that I'm worried about is that if I heat it up and let it sit for about 20 seconds and heat it up a second time, the glow is much less. I'm assuming that the unit knows how much to heat the oven and just isn't activating the temperatures as much, but I'm not sure.

 

[collegeKid101]

I've used mine "sparingly" in public, but I just loosely wrap my hand over the top of the device. It covers the bowl window and I can easily touch the button. Probably not much better than just hitting it normally, but it covers up most of the device. I could just be hitting a nicotine vape.

EDIT: Like this http://imgur.com/LZiw7TO

If you cup your hand, it shouldn't interfere with the lid and you can see the LED a little clearer if you block the sun (assuming you're outside)

That's actually not half bad