Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

[itschad]

When you guys say "PG" in reference to the Ce4 carts do you mean "puregold" or "propylene glycol"

 

[Porquiplane]

When you guys say "PG" in reference to the Ce4 carts do you mean "puregold" or "propylene glycol"

Probably both. I reference to puregold. It can be used for both, but its meant for propylene glycol e-liquid types.

 

[Caligula]

@itschad In reference to the post directly above, he is talking about the Tetra Labs Pure Gold product. Its not very viscous compared to most concentrates/essential oils as you may or may not know.

 

[BLAZING OG]

@BLAZING OG

It is possible that I wasn't hitting it for cool down. Aside from that I didn't mash on the button without drawing through the Herc other than a few 4 second priming pushes. Now here is something interesting... i THOUGHT the bats were fully charged. Apparently the LED light on the recharger lied and they were near dead. This lead me to believe that I needed to add more oil, so I threw another .25g in there on top of the 1g from the initial fill. Perhaps this created an overfill situation? On top of that, could it be possible that my almost dead batteries were heating the oil up enough to run but not vape off? Maybe a combination of these two things?

In any case, I cleaned everything up and recharged the bats. HIt like a champ for a bit but the vapor ran dry. Checked and its no leaking anymore so I added the other .25g of oil. So far so good!

BTW, I noticed you say you "feather" the button in your YT videos, but I cant see your finger. Once the Herc is warmed up, approx how many seconds on/off do you do?

Thanks again!

-Joe


@cannaman559 Did you have leaking issues into your lower core as well? Id say a vast majority of my load (lol) ended up in there over night.

The batteries could of been the culprit, enough heat to liquify but not vape off!!!!
I would highly recommend some AW batteries, I apologize if I keep mentioning this but I have seen and felt the difference.

Yeah, I hold down the button approx5 to 8 seconds(while doing test puffs), when i feel some vapor I let go about a second or two then press doen another 2-3 seconds, back and forth.
I ll look for the video were you can see in the nibbler xl the vapor getting dense then thin as Iam feathering the button , thats how quick the herc produces vapor .

 

[cannaman559]

@cannaman559 Did you have leaking issues into your lower core as well? Id say a vast majority of my load (lol) ended up in there over night.[/quote]

yeah the lower core had some trapped in there. its all gonna come down to technique,time and practice. w9 hasn't failed me yet,its just a learning curve.
anyone know when the 3.7v red rod is being released? cost?

 

[BLAZING OG]

i loaded 1g puregold also, i feather the button like suggested (maybe i should work more on pulling to cool after) but im starting to think the red rod would be most friendly to pure gold...lower and slower i guess.

Are u using the AW batteries or generic?

Interesting, so you did encounter leaks with the Pure old??
The red rod works very well for me , medium to thick vapor but still ample enough to get me medicated,
Red rod with the thinner pure gold would probably be a dream!!!!
I will have to test this out soon.
I used the red rod with shatter and it worked very very well!!
When you draw after letting go of the button, you help cool the chamber faster which in turn will cool the oil faster and help it get sucked up back into the coil to sit there to be called upon at a moments notice.

It seems like the pure gold is getting hot but not as hot as it should to keep it from running down and sitting in the air holes.

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

I think the issue is the coil not being seated all the way down. This could be causing the leak.

 

[Caligula]

@BLAZING OG
this one?

@THC SCIENTIFIC Its too late to check, but I will be sure to make sure my coil is completely seated from now on!

@cannaman559 I use 99% iso alcohol (I get it from my local grocery store for $3 a bottle. The stuff is Safeway brand if you care) to clean parts and reclaim meds. The iso is pretty pure (hence the 99% part), so it not only does a good job of dissolving concentrates for cleaning, but it completely evaporates as well... leaving behind all of your dissolved concentrates! Just scrape up and "reclaim" whats left at that point.

 

[BLAZING OG]

@BLAZING OG
this one?

@THC SCIENTIFIC Its too late to check, but I will be sure to make sure my coil is completely seated from now on!

@cannaman559 I use 99% iso alcohol (I get it from my local grocery story, the stuff is Safeway brand if you care) to clean parts and reclaim meds. The iso is pretty pure (hence the 99% part), so it not only does a good job of dissolving concentrates for cleaning, but it completely evaporates as well... leaving behind all of your dissolved concentrates! Just scrape up and "reclaim" whats left at that point.

Thats one of them lol lol lol

skip too 1:10

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

@BLAZING OG
this one?

@THC SCIENTIFIC Its too late to check, but I will be sure to make sure my coil is completely seated from now on!

What some people don't realize after he lets go of the button the Sr still produces vapor.

I can attest that if Blazing OG had kept inhaling without pressing the button more vapor would have been produced. You can see it in the videos after he lets go the perc is still active and still pull in vapor.

 

[Caligula]

@cannaman559 just a thought, were your batteries fully charged when yours leaked?

@THC SCIENTIFIC That's something I have discovered over the past day! lol.

 

[BLAZING OG]

What some people don't realize after he lets go of the button the Sr still produces vapor.

I can attest that if Blazing OG had kept inhaling without pressing the button more vapor would have been produced. You can see it in the videos after he lets go the perc is still active and still pull in vapor.

Oh yeah, if I just mashed on the button ,I would of been out for the count.
I have to test under controlled environment

When I let go of the herc its still up to temp and easily produces vapor for a bit without the button engaged.
Thats a safety measure I have included in my sr-71 flight tests, feather button or have to be feathered to bring me back to reality.

wow, crazy stuff!

 

[cannaman559]

@cannaman559 just a thought, were your batteries fully charged when yours leaked?

@THC SCIENTIFIC That's something I have discovered over the past day! lol.

yeah fully charged batteries. but i was on that one set for the whole day, so it may have leaked (assuming thats the problem) later that evening when they were lower...idk

 

[cannaman559]

Thats one of them lol lol lol

skip too 1:10

were we supposed to get sent a AAF washer? i dont have one.do i call this in?

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

were we supposed to get sent a AAF washer? i dont have one.do i call this in?

the AAF washer is still testing phase. Im currently debating on adding another part to the equation if the Current Hercules isnt that easy to understand. Just going to cause a bigger problem.

 

[BLAZING OG]

When you guys say "PG" in reference to the Ce4 carts do you mean "puregold" or "propylene glycol"

Yes ,I have mostly been referring to PG but I mean pure gold, some people are having good results with the ce4 and pure gold .The ce4 are meant for VG/PG (vegetable glycerin/ Propylene glycol)

 

[PhotoRider]

What some people don't realize after he lets go of the button the Sr still produces vapor.

I can attest that if Blazing OG had kept inhaling without pressing the button more vapor would have been produced. You can see it in the videos after he lets go the perc is still active and still pull in vapor.

I believe this is my issue (leaking). Actually I am loading it wrong. I think I am overheating in that process. There is a lag between the power and the melt. Easy to get impatient for me.

Let me double check here the procedure for oil - BHO, not PG. Just a put so it can be correct by an experience expert - Blazing OG or G or?
1. assemble cart and install coil all the way in.
2. add some oil (0.25-0.3g?) either via a needle/heat and dropping it in or simply placing it on top the coil.
3. assemble MP and insert
4. begin to pulse power (say 2-3 second on, ? off) enough to melt, but not enough to vape.
5. while pulsing power, draw some from the cart, medium draw?
6. Verify oil is melting into the coil
7. repeat steps 2-6 at least once more, up to 1g

Use:
1. Hold the cart slightly angled down (farthest end from you lower than the MP)
2. Begin to pulse the power (50/50 like 4 sec on, 4 off) while drawing slowly.
3. As vape is delivered draw harder and tapper off the power quanity.
4. Continue to draw
5. Stop power like 75% hit capacity and use the last 25% to cool the cart
6. repeat steps 2-5 as required
7. once done, store with the MP slightly raised until cool to pool the oil in the lower area, but not through the air holes.

how far off am I?

 

[BLAZING OG]

I believe this is my issue (leaking). Actually I am loading it wrong. I think I am overheating in that process. There is a lag between the power and the melt. Easy to get impatient for me.

Let me double check here the procedure for oil - BHO, not PG. Just a put so it can be correct by an experience expert - Blazing OG or G or?
1. assemble cart and install coil all the way in.
2. add some oil (0.25-0.3g?) either via a needle/heat and dropping it in or simply placing it on top the coil.
3. assemble MP and insert
4. begin to pulse power (say 2-3 second on, ? off) enough to melt, but not enough to vape.
5. while pulsing power, draw some from the cart, medium draw?
6. Verify oil is melting into the coil
7. repeat steps 2-6 at least once more, up to 1g

Use:
1. Hold the cart slightly angled down (farthest end from you lower than the MP)
2. Begin to pulse the power (50/50 like 4 sec on, 4 off) while drawing slowly.
3. As vape is delivered draw harder and tapper off the power quanity.
4. Continue to draw
5. Stop power like 75% hit capacity and use the last 25% to cool the cart
6. repeat steps 2-5 as required
7. once done, store with the MP slightly raised until cool to pool the oil in the lower area, but not through the air holes.

how far off am I?

Wow, pretty spot on!
Thats kinda the same way i do things, and has been working great so far.

Oh and thank you for thinking of me as an expert, Iam flattered.
Just a normal joe that's learning along the way.

Vape on brotha!!!!

 

[PhotoRider]

aka company rep - that's an expert in my book or one in training.

This isn't what I did when it leaked, I was not doing loading steps 3-5 when it leaked. I believe this is procedural issue and my solution.

Also, to the members that have a leak how I reclaim it.

1. disassemble the outer sections and the base adapter.
2. remove the bottom SS tube off the top/rod.. Retainer probably will stay on. Thats ok at the point.
3. Remove bottom retainer insert from the bottom SS tube.
4. remove teflon washers and screw.
5. Put everything in a Pyrex dish except the top and rod which I leave together.
6. Heat with a hair dryer on low fan. Just enough to melt the oil and drip into the Pyrex.
7. Holding the top with the rod pointed down over the pyrex using pliers or hemostats I heat the rod/retainer with the hair dryer, but not the coil section. No need to remove that area.
7. cool everything
8. Put everything except the top in ISO and soak a bit
9. remove the retainer from the rod if needed (if you need to use the screw/retainer to attach to have a handle)
10. add retainer to ISO.
11. Hand clean the rod and outer area of the top SS tube with an ISO prep pad or paper towel/iso.
12. Dry off the ISO soaking stuff.
13. Reassemble.

Don't use a torch. If you must put in the oven at the lowest temp say 170 or so in the same dish w/o the SS top tube/rod, but with the retainer. Just do step 11 on the top/rod.

The only thing I am concerned about is the teflon washers. I know boiling is OK which is over 200, but no flame... oven/heat gun or hair dryer only I would suggest

Now recover reclaim from dish with an exacto knife or razor blade. Or just dab it...

 

[BLAZING OG]

aka company rep - that's an expert in my book or one in training.

This isn't what I did when it leaked, I was not doing loading steps 3-5 when it leaked. I believe this is procedural issue and my solution.

On a side note, I just checked your link in your signature of your glass collection.
You have one of the largest glass collections i've seen in a while, and they all have something special about them.

Gorgeous Glass

 

[PhotoRider]

thanks. Daily users too. Except Herbie/Antie they run to fast to catch...

 

[Vapoholic420]

Ahh yes I remember now, I would need to run this by THC Im not sure about the regular 1 year warranty!
What color persei do u have?


Thanks brotha, I am stoked to have helped you get the herc up and running, it was my pleasure

I havent had any issues leaking at all even with pure gold. Once I didnt start hitting it before the button press and after finishing my draw. I didnt continue to draw to cool oil down, and I got a drop down the rod and into the lower chamber but thats all.
I apologize that that happened ,the herc is powerful and gets very hot.

Did you hold the button down for a long time without drawing?

trying to brainstorm here, let me think about this one.
Possibly try loading less, I did load up a gram at once of pg but pretty much kept the herc going to the point were it was all vaped away.

Kindest regards,
BOG

P.S SO glad you made it to the forum. @Caligula

WELCOME !!!!!!!!!

Hey Blazing OG, u asked what color Persei I have, I got a chrome one. Sorry it took so long for me to answer. I've been busy.

 

[Caligula]

How long does the battery last for you guys? I seem to be blowing through a charge relatively quickly and my 7.4s barely have any cycles so they are practically newish. Is that normal for the Hercules? I'm sure the thing draws some massive power.

 

[Happyendin21]

Thanks blazing og for all of your help and advice.

Okay good, sometimes the heat might make the teflon shift a slight. I recommend unscrewing the screw in that black insulator a bit and then re tighten slightly but not as tight as before.

Does your persei have a "Persei" logo under the button on the persei head?
If so then thats most likely the updated circuitry!
The head might be burn out ,If it stays on.



I completely agree, I have even had the herc start producing vapor as fast as a couple of seconds by test puffing & a well primed oil coil.

Vape on brotha!

Hey guys I would like to ask a few more moments of everyone's time. Got my herc on Friday. Read and watched everything following instructions to the T with a well loaded oil coil. And I have got some light vapor at heating cycles up to 45 seconds of heating time. So I am wondering how full does the coil get with a .8g? Ie appear to have oil all the way up the side? With mine I loaded about .7 and appear to have oil just about 75% up the coil. as you know blazing og I'm using imr not aw imr batteries and I guess I'm wondering if someone has ideas if it is the fill amount that is the problem or the batteries or the assembly slash airflow. I will say the unit gets damn hot and air/vapor that does come out is hot enough to almost burn your throat. And the flavor and true vaporization at hand is exciting and spot on! Just not getting quick or thick clouds like almost everyone else. TIA and thanks for all the prior help! Community here is awesome. Products are advancing to great heights very exciting!

 

[Atomsk]

I have this feeling my Herc isn't heating correctly. If I hold it down for the 30 second cycle, it doesn't get anywhere near even a slightly orange / red glow. It has to have at least 1.3 loaded as I've just been filling the sumbitch with no real vapor production that stands out from a dying 2.4.

Any tips?

Also, anyone ever try the EFEST 18350s? The VG vapor crowd pointed me in the direction of EFEST saying that they're made at the same factory and are identical to AW IMRS with the exception of branding. This true?

For people who might run in to this problem:
I ran in to the problem of the Herc not heating up a few days ago and was told by Jordan at D9 to check the Heater Core without attaching the insulator. Turns out, you may sometimes need to unscrew the insulator slightly. Apparently the heat generated by Herc does something where the contact points recede and you have to screw it outwards a bit.