TinyMight / TM 2

[Varden]

Just a few more suggestions to try also :
- pull harder from the start of your draw (or/and harder overall). When someone tries my TM/TM2 and doen't get a nice cloud it's usually beacause they pullled to slow.
- just take 1 or 2 draws at a given temp on the dial. TM extracts fast. With the herbs i have, if i take more than 2 hits at the same setting i usually end up with a whispy hit (and if i was novice i could probably think it's just inconsistancy).

In my experience, it is the opposite. Slow and long draws gives better vapor. The air has more time to boil the herb if the air passes slowly. Plus the heater might be able to keep up a bit better.

That said, I like using low temps, usually starting at 3. And if I want to just sip slowly, I'll put it at 1 or 2. If you do really slow at 1 or 2 you get a really nice milder vapor that you can just sip to.

So if you are using higher temperatures from the start, then the harder drawing might work for that.

 

[Momor]

In order to illustrate my suggestion here are two videos I just took.
Both are with my TM2 on setting 4, with a half basket screen worth of herbs.
First video I take a slow draw and second one a fast draw.
Each time I start inhaling at the start of the video.
Vapor production happens quite a lot quicker (denser too I think) with the fast draw.

https://imgur.com/a/9S6bRp4

 

[Varden]

In order to illustrate my suggestion here are two videos I just took.
Both are with my TM2 on setting 4, with a half basket screen worth of herbs.
First video I take a slow draw and second one a fast draw.
Each time I start inhaling at the start of the video.
Vapor production happens quite a lot quicker (denser too I think) with the fast draw.

https://imgur.com/a/9S6bRp4

I like your glass. I wish I could get something like that where I live.

It makes sense that you get vapor quicker when you are inhaling hard and quick than when you are inhaling slow. What I've found is that most people do not have lungs enough to do a hard and long-ish draw, so it works better long and slow, because slow they can actually go long without too much fuss.

I have some friends coming to watch the UFC today (no spoilers) and we'll use the vape, so I will give a try again to inhaling hard and fast and see how it goes.

 

[Momor]

most people do not have lungs enough to do a hard and long-ish draw

If you consider 3-5s draw long-ish then ok
"Fast" is also relative. For me it's not really fast but probably more like if you were normally breathing through the bong ?

 

[BabyFacedFinster]

Of course, experiences will vary based on a multitude of factors. I am in the slow draw camp myself. I also rarely move the dial past 3. In the past, I have upped it to 4 with a noticable increase in clouds, but then the roasty flavor comes sooner than leaving it on 3. This is for my TM2 in on-demand mode. Also, I'll restate my opinion that for the best clouds, go all 18mm and don't limit your hits by restricting your airflow. YMMV

I have my ritual and maybe that's works in my head. First I take a few short puffs, just to start getting the heat through the load and tasting the best flavor you're gonna get from the sesh. Then a slow, steady draw until I just start to feel something in the back of the throat. Then I let off the button and keep drawing for a few more seconds. This is when I feel I load up on the vapor. When I stop inhaling right after releasing the botton then I don't get as good a hit.

For second or third hits, I start out by taking a few short puffs. I feel this clears the stale vapor out of the glass and gets the heat going again. Then I go into the long slow draw again and follow the same method.

I am such a lightweight that I rarely go past a third hit, sometimes only two. I'd like to say I don't keep hitting it because I dont like the extra roasty flavor, but the fact is 2 hits is usually all I need to get the effects I want. Many times I get too medicated if I completely extract a full bowl. 2-3 hits off a medium packed bowl is usually enough, and I vape every day. Just my luck, I guess.

 

[popitup]

I'd like to apologize for overgeneralizing users of the TM2, I spoke from my experience using S&B capsules, and I rip through a bowl in 3-4 hits.

A lot of other great tips for technique in this thread, and it definitely depends on your goals. TM2 is a great session vape in addition to its on-demand capabilities.

All that being said, just going to throw out some names that I remember, for tips/stems:

1. Vgoodiez has an $8 glass tip: https://vgoodiez.com/products/14mm-glass-wpa-by-tinymight
2. Hookahhead MD makes great stems, check out his thread: https://fuckcombustion.com/threads/hookahhead_md-custom-glass-vape-accessories.54018/
3. The Rogue Wax Works, tips, stems, more: https://theroguewaxworks.com/
4. Good Vibes Boro: https://goodvibesboro.com/
5. High Artisan: https://highartisan.com/
6. Etsy: https://etsy.com

Also check out the Joda E-nano XL thread, the WPA stem works on the TM2 as well: https://fuckcombustion.com/threads/e-nano-xl-from-epicvape.52210/page-16#post-1762384

edit: Added link to Joda thread

 

[Cheebsy]

Also check out the Joda E-nano XL thread, the WPA stem works on the TM2 as well.

Nice list!

He is also a member here, @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd

 

[kiddvudu2]

Hey @Shit Snacks, when u rock a dry bubbler, do u use a tighter tamp on the herb? Are u able to use smaller loads with that method, or is its necessary to use a larger one for that application?

Peese!

 

[HighTime]

All of you have been amazing with your suggestions

Just a few more suggestions to try also :
- pull harder from the start of your draw (or/and harder overall). When someone tries my TM/TM2 and doen't get a nice cloud it's usually beacause they pullled to slow.
- just take 1 or 2 draws at a given temp on the dial. TM extracts fast. With the herbs i have, if i take more than 2 hits at the same setting i usually end up with a whispy hit (and if i was novice i could probably think it's just inconsistancy).

Thanks. I definitely find the TM2 extracts fast. In some of my experimenting, I do find that if the herb is freshly loaded, a little bit of a harder pull part way into the draw until it ends will yield good clouds. Part of what I think I’m experiencing is that after a couple of hits with significant clouds, additional hits result in wispier clouds, which sometimes, I now realize, seem to me like no clouds at all. Most of the extraction is happening in those couple of earlier cloudy hits. This level of extraction efficiency is new to my limited experience.


Here’s what happened last night: I tried ShitSnacks suggestion of starting on the low side at three and stepping up by one for each hit, and it worked very well. The biggest clouds were somewhere between hits 2 and 4 and it was a little less on 4, and less so on 5. Then I looked at the herb, which still had some green areas. So I stirred and hit it again on seven to see if I could get any more out of it, and I wasn’t able to see hardly any vapor.

It seems what I had been experiencing with not seeing much vapor consistently had to do with my not yet having learned good technique with the TM2 (which I see from all the great posts in response to my question can vary based on many factors and that I have more to learn!), and with the fact that this thing extracts very fast and efficiently. It seems to make sense that a couple of hits to a relatively small bowl of herb would yield larger clouds and other hits would be wispier.

Thanks to everyone who has offered thoughts and suggestions. It‘s all very helpful! This place is a font of information!

 

[Grass Yes]

In some of my experimenting, I do find that if the herb is freshly loaded

Then I looked at the herb, which still had some green areas. So I stirred and hit it again

This two things make me think you are packing too tightly. I use a coarse grind and a loose pack. I never tamp and I never stir.

 

[HighTime]

Yes, although not too hard, I have been tamping coarsely plucked, not large clumps, pieces of herb with my finger tip. I’ve been doing that less the last two nights. I might just drop the herb in there and forego any tamping. Thanks!

 

[Shit Snacks]

my opinion that for the best clouds, go all 18mm and don't limit your hits by restricting your airflow.

Well, actually, if the air flow is restricted, either using 18 WPA through 14 drop down and 14 rig, or even using a 14 WPA etc, you actually get thicker clouds quicker with the restricted air flow slightly... So you don't have to draw as hard, or as long, typically (18 is more comfortable for that full large hit but it depends what you're using it with and what you are after, I don't think it means better clouds per se)

Hey @Shit Snacks, when u rock a dry bubbler, do u use a tighter tamp on the herb? Are u able to use smaller loads with that method, or is its necessary to use a larger one for that application?

Peese!

No nothing tighter about the tamp really, however if I am using a particularly smaller basket screen load, I do think a tamp down into the screen would help, for that one hitter high temp extraction... Just ends up with a thinner hit I suppose compared to a more full bowl? But I typically would use my regular bowl and ritual that I describe below temp stepping, the dry glass I use is not like a big empty chamber for volume, it is more of a complex dry path so that might be a factor as well (the video above is an empty sidecar rig with matrix perc, that would have wide open air flow, I wouldn't like to use it with water or dry personally at all)

Here’s what happened last night: I tried ShitSnacks suggestion of starting on the low side at three and stepping up by one for each hit, and it worked very well. The biggest clouds were somewhere between hits 2 and 4 and it was a little less on 4, and less so on 5. Then I looked at the herb, which still had some green areas. So I stirred and hit it again on seven to see if I could get any more out of it, and I wasn’t able to see hardly any vapor.

To further clarify, I did not mean stepping up by one for each hit... I turn the dial, in much tinier increments, between the numbers, for each hit... (more hits, slower rate of increase temp) Any increase is substantial, that is how I eek out many hits off of a bowl even though it is not that big of a bowl, even though my hits might be bigger too... This is also how the TM can be extremely precise with consistent temp level increase along the dial range

Yes, although not too hard, I have been tamping coarsely plucked, not large clumps, pieces of herb with my finger tip. I’ve been doing that less the last two nights. I might just drop the herb in there and forego any tamping. Thanks!

Yeah the chunkier the grind, the less of the pack, just make sure you are covering the screen so no air flow goes around, that could hurt the extraction... But I also think you want a little bit more of a grind, especially with that stock stem set up, only use a chunkier grind or whole nug if I am trying to experience flavor etc... The extraction is almost always worse than a more consistent medium coarse grind loosely packed (although securely, I always take the first hit upside down so the load becomes secure without any potential for a crumb to fall down once it has been flipped if using a straight stem)

 

[RustyOldNail]

Well, actually, if the air flow is restricted, either using 18 WPA through 14 drop down and 14 rig, or even using a 14 WPA etc, you actually get thicker clouds quicker with the restricted air flow slightly... So you don't have to draw as hard, or as long, typically (18 is more comfortable for that full large hit but it depends what you're using it with and what you are after, I don't think it means better clouds per se)

Well said, not many realize this when recommending 18mm water rigs. My lung strength and draw time is more limited these days, so ALL my rigs are 14mm, which works best for me.

 

[HighTime]

Thanks, ShitSnacks, for clarifying the stepping process you use and especially for the grinding and packing and upside down first hit advice. I’ve more to work on!

 

[Willy McChilly]

Thanks, ShitSnacks, for clarifying the stepping process you use and especially for the grinding and packing and upside down first hit advice. I’ve more to work on!

I think this is why I've always gravitated to using this thing through my bubbler - it sits upside down in the top while I'm hitting it. It's not even the extra cooling, I just get much better hits with it sitting that way. I'll have to try hitting it upside down and looking like a fool when I'm out and about now tho lol.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I think this is why I've always gravitated to using this thing through my bubbler - it sits upside down in the top while I'm hitting it. It's not even the extra cooling, I just get much better hits with it sitting that way. I'll have to try hitting it upside down and looking like a fool when I'm out and about now tho lol.

Haha yeah this is why I love my U-turn stems and hooks! When you are using properly pure on demand with the full convection you let go of the button and continue inhaling to fully clear vapor and heat for each hit

 

[Cheebsy]

Just to put a different perspective on things, I never used my TM upside down, especially with a j hook! All that torque wanting to turn it all over, nah, I'll just use it right way up thank you lol! My wpa is much longer than most though so that probably makes a big difference, but I still don't really see any need to run upside down, and prefer not to. FWIW I don't use the TM on any bongs, just with stems or a hook.

 

[HighTime]

I used torn/ground pieces about half the size of what I had been using, loosely packed with a light tap, fully covering the screen, and hit it upside down for the first one, which did result in keeping the material in place without any dropping out during the few right side up hits that followed. I began at setting 3 and increased by small amounts ending at about 5 or 6 after about five hits. I also drew a little harder, but slowly, in the course of each hit. And, I did do some 10 second or so extra heat soaking a few times when I got the buzz that it was up to temp. The result was good vapor beginning with the first hit, and very wispy vapor at the last one. It seemed from looking at it all had been extracted by then. I could have easily stopped at four hits and had the same great effect. This is a very different and positive experience from when I had written with my original question about vapor production. Thanks again to all! Things are very good as they are, and I expect they will even improve from here!

 

[Shit Snacks]

never used my TM upside down, especially with a j hook! All that torque wanting to turn it all over, nah, I'll just use it right way up thank you

Haha I'm not really sure what you mean by torque wanting to turn it all over...? Yeah it was all my time spent using the TM with hooks that had me hooked on upside down use lol

 

[TheDankness]

According to the manual, the charge light is RED.

DOWNLOAD the PDF manual at the link below, and save it:

https://magicvaporizers.com/manuals/Tinymight-2-Manual.pdf

As far as burn offs, I usually wipe down all parts with 190 ethanol, as it leaves no bitterants behind like ISO.
But in this case, ISO will be fine, as you are going to do some high heat runs.
Set the TEMP DIAL TO MAX #10.
So you don’t have to hold the button down, put the TM2 into session mode.
Do 2-3 TWO MINUTE sessions, allowing it to cool off between.
CAUTION: The TM2 does NOT have a AUTO TIME OUT in “Session Mode”, so use a timer as you have to SHUT IT OFF MANUALLY! Otherwise it will run down till the batteries cutoff voltage.

READ THE ENTIRE MANUAL I LINKED!

Also consider buying an external charger for your lithium batteries, a safer way …..
There are some threads on FC with both charger and extra battery recommendations.

LAST STEP: Enjoy your new vape!

regarding the charging light, I asked the TinyMight people and they said some of their new boards had Orange charging lights. Just in case you were worried about yours being different than stated in the manual like I was.

 

[Cheebsy]

Haha I'm not really sure what you mean by torque wanting to turn it all over...? Yeah it was all my time spent using the TM with hooks that had me hooked on upside down use lol

By torque I'm talking about the force wanting to turn the assembly over. The TM is so much heavier than the glassware that it wants to be underneath. I just don't feel like fighting physics but I do totally see why you do like to invert, I'm just not worried about crumbs falling into the heater because I seat (less than a tamp) the load with a finger.

 

[Shit Snacks]

By torque I'm talking about the force wanting to turn the assembly over. The TM is so much heavier than the glassware that it wants to be underneath. I just don't feel like fighting physics but I do totally see why you do like to invert, I'm just not worried about crumbs falling into the heater because I seat (less than a tamp) the load with a finger.

Oh okay, gravity, I understand now, yeah that's not an issue at all for me, because I'm holding it in my hands... It's never sitting upright like that, on its own in my case lol Anyway I agree there is minimal risk at all about any crumbs falling out from the stem with a good load and gentle tamp, certainly hardly possible at all after the first hit is taken as I mentioned earlier too, and even if they do that's not much of an issue either as there is protection between the heater and such debris regardless (I have more of this ocd for my Tetra though it is protected too)

 

[TheDankness]

Oh okay, gravity, I understand now, yeah that's not an issue at all for me, because I'm holding it in my hands... It's never sitting upright like that, on its own in my case lol Anyway I agree there is minimal risk at all about any crumbs falling out from the stem with a good load and gentle tamp, certainly hardly possible at all after the first hit is taken as I mentioned earlier too, and even if they do that's not much of an issue either as there is protection between the heater and such debris regardless (I have more of this ocd for my Tetra though it is protected too)

yeah, I’ve been using mine through an adapter into some water pieces and it works well. Good glass is pretty strong if you don’t get too crazy with the joints and bends. I got a “Mini Pete” from Sneaky Pete and it’s pretty good with lower temps. Not enough water to work on anything hotter than a 7 imo.

QUICK HALF YEAR CHECKIN!

It’s been about 6 months since I got my TM2. I’ve been using it 2-3 times per week and it’s a trooper. I’ve got 3 batteries (all Molicel P28A) and an Ed’s wood stem crammed full of quartz balls that I use most often. I have a glass rocket stem which is great for flavor. I have some glass water pieces that are all kinds fun. This is the device I use most and get the most enjoyment out of. I have a ball vape rig (a Freight Train) and hits like its name, but it’s way less convenient to setup and use. Way less discreet too.

I’m curious about the failure rate on the TM2. Some people here have had issues, and you’d certainly expect a certain fraction of a percentage to be defective. Mine’s been working great so far and I hope it continues to do so. I’ll have to check my batteries after the 1 year mark and see if any need replacing. (Take care of your batts! Don’t mark them or scratch them wraps!)

I feel like the TM2 is a kind of “boutique” device. It’s special. Maybe a little bit like a race car. Sometimes, I marvel at it. The wood construction, the aluminum. I think a titanium or stainless steel variant would be cool, but maybe the steel would be too conductive at 20A? I worry about “The Button”. Those edge switches on the board are not necessarily up to millions of presses. And that’s how many I want my TinyMight2 to run. By my calcs, that’ll be about 225 years at 2 clicks per session, 1 session / day, 365 days per year. There might be some fudge because of the triple clicks to start and stop but YOU GET IT.

This Xmas, do yourself a favor: get blazed.

peace

 

[babyskunk]

I registered my TM2 for a warranty return about 2 weeks ago (the button has stopped working…) but the site still says pending. People who have registered their TMs—how long did it take for the registration to be accepted?

 

[Cheebsy]

yeah that's not an issue at all for me, because I'm holding it in my hands...

That's exactly where I don't like the torque. If I try to hold the hook right way up, with the TM above it, it's uncomfortable because it's top heavy. If I want holding it it would be an issue. I never use a bong on the table either, always opting to pick one up so the centre of gravity makes a big difference.