The Official CannaBreak Thread

[Alexis]

Day 39 here, and still, the only "benefit" is some more clear energy. However, like I said a while ago, the trade-off for this bit of energy, is a lot of boredom (including lack of interest, even in things that are purely pleasurable*), a short temper/no patience for anyone's bullshit, and much less comfortable nights.

*This lack of interest carries over into hobbies and relaxing activities, such as Netflixing reruns of That 70's Show, Friends, etc.. It's a shame, because even though the hobbies are interesting, they don't captivate my focus for very long anymore.

Likely going to start "microdosing" (~0.1-0.3g doses) soon, and seeing if the lack of energy is significant enough to be worth abstaining from daily use.

There may be another consideration here I believe that may have little or nothing to do with long term cannabis' impact on our ability to find pleasure and satisfaction in previously rewarding tasks:

We ere evolving as a race, in terms of consciousness and awareness, that is no doubt!
With so many things, the novelty has just plain worn off!
The same old tv shows are a perfect example. We are yearning for revolution, transformation, change and a newer dimension of existence.

This must be a global phenomena. Consciousness is actualy shared amd connected although we are barely "conscious" of this, YET!

I do feel you totally though. I am on day 4 of my unexpected and unplanned, spontaneous break. And yeah, there is nothing I am interested in. The snooker world championship fpr example, I used to enjoy watching that, stoned, or unstoned. The same for football.
Now I just cant keep my attention on ot for 2 seconds.

Even if the table blew up, or Martians came down onto the football pitch. So what! Where is the thrill, the "buzz."

But I realy dont think this has all to do with cannabis. This reality has just run its course for me. I want something different, and so I think does a lot of "awakened" humanity. To be fully engaged, satisfied and fulfilled right now, is kind of to be in a "happy hypnosis", as millions (or billions), "believe" they are!

I have been having a lot of psychic dreaming experiences lately, with specific signals or occurences that come true the next day, or things that have already happened recently but I didnt know about, with information coming to light afterwards, with me dreaming vivdly about it in between it happening and the revelation.

Seriously I swear this is happening. Im kind of like "so what" still. Just unenthused. Whether Im using cannabis or not.

So it may just be that at this stage of evolution, where the "old" has run its course, and the "new" is yet to be formed/revealed, we just NEED cannabis more, to keep us entertained, relaxed, motivated, happy!

Anybody might say I have been "smoking too much" lately, when actually, the opposite is true.
I am pretty clear!

Bring down the veil I say, out with the old, in with the new!
I will certainly feel a lot better when I am well enough to start vaping again soon. But I may try and hold off a bit longer than usual aftet my homeopathy finishes in 3 or 4 days.

 

[biohacker]

lack of interest, even in things that are purely pleasurable*), a short temper/no patience for anyone's bullshit, and much less comfortable nights.

IMHO you are still going through withdrawal. Don't forgot it takes around a month to lose a habit, and replace it with another. It sounds like you are experiencing anhedonia, and the short temper/no patience I can definitely relate to (especially in the Grasshopper thread! ). Same with the much less comfortable nights. It can take MONTHS, if not years... I have posted links to forums that can be of great help to you, and I bet there are posts exactly based on what you are feeling at the moment. It shall pass IMO.

If you were a daily user, your brain chemistry changes....this is a drug after all, and anything that increases pleasure and dopamine with cause an opposite reaction when you cease usage. If it helps you calm down and sleep at night, without it you will get the opposite effect. If you were used to getting stoned and playing video games or watching movies, obviously it won't be as awesome sober, but give it time and I think it will change.

I'm actually sorry to hear that bro, but IMO just keep going for another few weeks at least, maybe another month or two. Otherwise, I think you are bang on with the micro dosing, and you are going to get BAKED! lol

It's all about your own personal choice bro, you and everyone else knows I can't wait to vape again, but I don't want to do it daily, but i've read it's either daily OR infrequent....it won't work well every other day or something, but that's up to the individual to experiment with.

I just ordered another couple of ounces because I couldn't resist some new strains! I'm gonna have a shit fuck tonne of a stockpile! But, it's all about moderation in enjoyment from here on out for this guy. I'm simply noticing too many positives....the morning wood is insane, confidence through the roof, no more sweats/chills all the fucking time, appetite is great and non-dependent on vaping, and best of all - I am looking WAY younger! Bags/dark circles nearly gone! Cannabis (thc at least) has an effect on hormones, and I don't believe it is ALL positive.... not sure on its affects on testosterone, but I know it doesn't boost it, however cannabis coming from the same plants as (hops?) can potentially increase estrogen. My pecs are now tight and defined...when I was a chronic daily user they would be "puffy" like retaining water or something. That's just my n=1.

Alexis, mind fucking blown once again! I would fucking love to have a beer or sesh with you some time! It's like a bizzaro world or something (like in Seinfeld) and you are the UK version of me or something! Lol Seriously, I love how deep you get, I did your vibrations!

 

[chris 71]

And does anyone know if these are safe to use so I don't fail a piss test? Thinking about picking up some of those Pharmabee CBD isolate crystals to vape! If there is no thc, why not enjoy??

http://nationalcompassion.ca/product-category/cbd/

did you end up trying any of this stuff out biohacker ?
i just ordered some of the Bedrolite from tweed . less then 1 percent thc and 9 percent cbd . i did try the tweed lot 3 before with less then 1 percent thc . but i wasnt doing it to try a thc break . so never really used it in this way . not sure how this would work with a piss test either .

what are you guys thoughts on using something like this . just so you can still get to vape something . while possibly still getting medical benefits at the same time your lowering your tolerance ?

day four here and still doing fine but i am missing the vapor

 

[biohacker]

Hey man, I just placed my order so have those CBD isolate crystals on their way. It says I can vape or eat them, so I haven't figured out which route I will go. Thinking vape, but there are no terpenes so not sure what it would be like, temps, etc....it says it has a sweet cherry taste. Also picked up some CBD oil tincture and some thc/cbd for down the road when I return.

I think it may be a good idea for you to vape those CBD strains, because you will get your vape, and some effect. Whether you like that effect remains to be seen! I personally felt it was a waste of money, but that's because I just wanted to get high! lol Things have changed.... but I can't risk even 1% thc due to the testing I will have down the road.

I slept like absolute garbage last night...actually fine for about 4 hours or so, but then I wake up and can't sleep fully...feels like i'm always dreaming and half awake and feels like I never slept at all. Hopefully it's just PAWS and i'll sleep better tonight. Could have been other variables too so who knows.

 

[chris 71]

not sure if you already know this but , i read somewhere , cant recall where right at the moment, but eating cbd doesnt get as much into the blood stream as vaping if that matters to you at all . and it could make your sleeping worse actully

 

[biohacker]

Thanks bro, I didn't know that about eating....but you saved me some $ forsure! I will vape, via convection, and start at about 175c and hope for the best!

I do know that CBD can be particularly not helpful for sleep too.... i'll use it in the daytime. Looking forward to your thoughts with the CBD strains. I found the high incomplete and almost anxiety provoking like low temp vaping but your mileage may vary.

 

[EverythingsHazy]

Do you guys have any experience with CBD use negating/reversing the residual lethargy/energy loss caused by daily THC filled Cannabis usage? The slight-moderate energy loss, and its potential to hold me back from reaching MY potential, is one of my biggest concerns with going back to enjoying Cannabis. I'm going to be doing a lot of research into this, the next several days, and I'll report my findings, as usual.

Caffeine might work, but it really doesn't work well or feel good for me, for numerous reasons, and on top of that, the last thing I want is to become addicted to one substance just so I can use another. That's a double-whammy.

There may be another consideration here I believe that may have little or nothing to do with long term cannabis' impact on our ability to find pleasure and satisfaction in previously rewarding tasks:

We ere evolving as a race, in terms of consciousness and awareness, that is no doubt!
With so many things, the novelty has just plain worn off!
The same old tv shows are a perfect example. We are yearning for revolution, transformation, change and a newer dimension of existence.

This must be a global phenomena. Consciousness is actualy shared amd connected although we are barely "conscious" of this, YET!

I do feel you totally though. I am on day 4 of my unexpected and unplanned, spontaneous break. And yeah, there is nothing I am interested in. The snooker world championship fpr example, I used to enjoy watching that, stoned, or unstoned. The same for football.
Now I just cant keep my attention on ot for 2 seconds.

Even if the table blew up, or Martians came down onto the football pitch. So what! Where is the thrill, the "buzz."

But I realy dont think this has all to do with cannabis. This reality has just run its course for me. I want something different, and so I think does a lot of "awakened" humanity. To be fully engaged, satisfied and fulfilled right now, is kind of to be in a "happy hypnosis", as millions (or billions), "believe" they are!

I have been having a lot of psychic dreaming experiences lately, with specific signals or occurences that come true the next day, or things that have already happened recently but I didnt know about, with information coming to light afterwards, with me dreaming vivdly about it in between it happening and the revelation.

Seriously I swear this is happening. Im kind of like "so what" still. Just unenthused. Whether Im using cannabis or not.

So it may just be that at this stage of evolution, where the "old" has run its course, and the "new" is yet to be formed/revealed, we just NEED cannabis more, to keep us entertained, relaxed, motivated, happy!

Anybody might say I have been "smoking too much" lately, when actually, the opposite is true.
I am pretty clear!

Bring down the veil I say, out with the old, in with the new!
I will certainly feel a lot better when I am well enough to start vaping again soon. But I may try and hold off a bit longer than usual aftet my homeopathy finishes in 3 or 4 days.

That's a very interesting perspective. I'm not saying that I feel smarter or more "enlightened" than others, but I definitely feel more "aware"/"conscious" than almost everyone I meet. I kind of feel like people run on autopilot, and while it sounds bad, it's definitely easier to deal with, mentally. Thinking about things existentially, and in the "grand scheme of things", makes life significantly more stressful than just going with the flow. Would I trade the way I see things for the way others do, no. However, I do like to quiet those thoughts down every once in a while, and just relax/enjoy the present moment, and Cannabis definitely helps with that.

IMHO you are still going through withdrawal. Don't forgot it takes around a month to lose a habit, and replace it with another. It sounds like you are experiencing anhedonia, and the short temper/no patience I can definitely relate to (especially in the Grasshopper thread! ). Same with the much less comfortable nights. It can take MONTHS, if not years... I have posted links to forums that can be of great help to you, and I bet there are posts exactly based on what you are feeling at the moment. It shall pass IMO.

If you were a daily user, your brain chemistry changes....this is a drug after all, and anything that increases pleasure and dopamine with cause an opposite reaction when you cease usage. If it helps you calm down and sleep at night, without it you will get the opposite effect. If you were used to getting stoned and playing video games or watching movies, obviously it won't be as awesome sober, but give it time and I think it will change.

I'm actually sorry to hear that bro, but IMO just keep going for another few weeks at least, maybe another month or two. Otherwise, I think you are bang on with the micro dosing, and you are going to get BAKED! lol

It's all about your own personal choice bro, you and everyone else knows I can't wait to vape again, but I don't want to do it daily, but i've read it's either daily OR infrequent....it won't work well every other day or something, but that's up to the individual to experiment with.

I just ordered another couple of ounces because I couldn't resist some new strains! I'm gonna have a shit fuck tonne of a stockpile! But, it's all about moderation in enjoyment from here on out for this guy. I'm simply noticing too many positives....the morning wood is insane, confidence through the roof, no more sweats/chills all the fucking time, appetite is great and non-dependent on vaping, and best of all - I am looking WAY younger! Bags/dark circles nearly gone! Cannabis (thc at least) has an effect on hormones, and I don't believe it is ALL positive.... not sure on its affects on testosterone, but I know it doesn't boost it, however cannabis coming from the same plants as (hops?) can potentially increase estrogen. My pecs are now tight and defined...when I was a chronic daily user they would be "puffy" like retaining water or something. That's just my n=1.

Alexis, mind fucking blown once again! I would fucking love to have a beer or sesh with you some time! It's like a bizzaro world or something (like in Seinfeld) and you are the UK version of me or something! Lol Seriously, I love how deep you get, I did your vibrations!

I do think I'm still experiencing some unpleasant effects caused by abstinence, but I don;t know 100% that they are physical withdrawals, as much as they seem to be just being upset with feeling like I shouldn't use Cannabis, which is something I do enjoy very much. It feels a lot like when I dieted several years ago, and after 6 months and >50lbs of weight loss, I realized something permanent was going to stick with me, as a result. The day I got off the diet, I was expecting to go back to enjoying food like before, but I immediately realized that I would never really go back to blindly enjoying the food I loved so much and that calorie intake and weight management would be something I'd have on my mind for the rest of my life, now that I'd become more knowledgeable about it. I felt like a close friend was taken away from me, and I could never get it back. When there was a time limit, even if it was as long as 6 very stressful months, I at least saw a light at the end of the tunnel. When I realized that I'd be cruising through that tunnel forever, albeit at a much more comfortable pace than I was during the intense dieting months, I felt lots of depressive feelings. There was never much guilt in my mind about Cannabis negatively affecting me, and any whispers of guilt from the stigma of it were quelled by me believing that it's not as bad as most people make it out to be, health-wise. Now, there's something else in the back of my mind about it, and using it despite that, feels a bit "addicty".

 

[biohacker]

Caffeine might work, but it really doesn't work well or feel good for me, for numerous reasons, and on top of that, the last thing I want is to become addicted to one substance just so I can use another. That's a double-whammy.

Been there man, don't go down that road... get into mediation, deep breathing (wim hof method), exercise, sunshine, but as I mentioned, I still think it's the residual fatigue of your brain and body chemistry re-balancing, and you need to ride it out. How's your sleep? Perhaps that is what is causing your daytime fatigue like i'm experiencing? REM rebound can do that to you...are you dreaming? I sure am!

Thinking about things existentially, and in the "grand scheme of things", makes life significantly more stressful than just going with the flow. Would I trade the way I see things for the way others do, no. However, I do like to quiet those thoughts down every once in a while, and just relax/enjoy the present moment, and Cannabis definitely helps with that.

Oh how I (and Alexis!) can relate! You summed that up very well, and I think overall it's the light at the end of the tunnel that keeps me going. I would not want to quit forever. I sometimes wonder if cannabis users see things in a totally different light than abstainers. Actually scratch that, I don't wonder - we do.

Now, there's something else in the back of my mind about it, and using it despite that, feels a bit "addicty".

I can relate to this, and I don't want to depend on anything, so I took action. I believe many are addicted and just are ignorant or in denial. Alot of people are afraid to take a break, because they know what the outcome will be. I understand many people are dependent for medical reasons, but sometimes it's also important to "feel" and get comfortable with the uncomfortable in order to grow.

I slept great last night! Perhaps it was the extreme fatigue, or even the 5-HTP, L-Theanine, and 3mg melatonin I took before bed. I am also starting krill oil, and co-q10, and some bee hive supplement lol Dreams were intense! Night sweats completely gone in less than 3 weeks! Typically it has taken double that time or more.

I'm really look forward to getting my test strips so I can see exactly when i'm free of thc completely. I'm starting to realize a couple of things since this break has been different compared to past, and why perhaps some people get brutal symptoms for months and years. In addition to what variables I posted above, I really am starting to think that combusters and high temp vaping (especially conduction) causes more withdrawal symptoms. Makes sense from a benzene and nasty chemical perspective, and I used to walk the fine line with high temp vaping and combustion. For the past year I have not been over 210c and that's with convection hybrids. For the past several months it's only been 210c for pure convection, or under 190c for convection/conduction hybrid vape. Not a science, but just a theory.

Now i'm creating a good vibe in my brain, that a 2 week break isn't the end of the world, and i'd like to take a 2 week break every so often. I read one post in an old thread here where the dude vapes 2 weeks on 2 weeks off and has "best of both worlds" for being high and being sober. I was thinking like 2 weeks off every 2 months or so, kind of to "keep things fresh".

Keep on keeping on!

 

[chris 71]

ok so im an hour away from 5 full days cold turkey , and perhaps starting to actually feel some carvings and remember why i use cannabis . a big part is to keep me from wanting to hurt co workers and quit my job lol .
seriously though i had kinda forgot but to me the biggest benefit i get from cannabis is keeping me calm and employed . i sometimes get soo stressed that i find a couple puffs keeps me from saying or doing things that i will regret after .

and like i said from out right saying fuck it and fuck yous all and just walking away from my job which i have done in the past . a few puffs and it just changes my perspective to , ok .. i can do this , only a couple more hours lol and im done .
im wanting to go ahead and just have a small vape i have some very low thc stuff here that i might just go ahead and have a little vape .

i think i have confirmed that its not the cannabis that is causing me the nausea and bowel probs that i was wondering about because they dont seem to have skipped a beat in 5 days i think its the antithyriod meds .

perhaps i should remember the real raeson i use it , besides just liking the buzz . i do use it as a mood stabilizer i infact stayed home today from work because i can feel the anger monkey coming back and dont want to do or say anything that i will regret at work.

i know some might say that is maybe the withdrawl talking but i know better , i had honestly all most forgot the biggest reason why i use it . because it has been working for a long time at keeping me going at work

 

[biohacker]

Anyone know why vaping daily makes me retain water? I just googled this and bang first hit:

Dr Robert H Thalmus wrote at 2009-10-21 21:03:32
I am a physician and have been studying the affects of marijuana on humans for almost 30 years. Yes, it does make you retain water but it depends on your lifestyle as to how much. If you are an active person then you won't retain as much water as one who is less active but the average is up to 6 to 10 pounds while you are smoking continously. Once THC is out of your system, the body will purge this water within 2 days. You might notice this weight lose if you are a constant user and than stop.

Those that have read my posts will see that I lost exactly 8 lbs of water within a few days! I'm ripped now, and usually have puffy nipples which I thought was due to cannabis' estrogenic properties, but obviously it was just water retention. This also explains the excessive night time sweats....it's like I eventually reach a saturation point with chronic daily vaping. And finally the kush arm pits are history!

Feels pretty awesome not to have cold chills anymore.....so comfy and relaxingly warm, and I do feel easier breathing and no sinus congestion/stuffed nose/can't breathe feeling.

Received 2oz of awesome outdoor today! one is vanilla haze...organic and outdoor....and looks it! The other is Lola, outdoor and amazing fruity smell....should have my cbd oil and isolate tomorrow or the day after...i wonder what that will be like?

 

[biohacker]

Fucking hell...either PAWS is kicking in (pretty sure it is) or i'm simply only able to sleep every other night. Slept maybe 2 hours, night sweats are back, freezing all night and still am this morning, hands frozen, headache....fuck!

I had such a productive day yesterday too....now today is a complete write off. Part of the process, I will keep pushing forward, and hopefully my CBD stuff shows up today.

 

[EverythingsHazy]

ok so im an hour away from 5 full days cold turkey , and perhaps starting to actually feel some carvings and remember why i use cannabis . a big part is to keep me from wanting to hurt co workers and quit my job lol .
seriously though i had kinda forgot but to me the biggest benefit i get from cannabis is keeping me calm and employed . i sometimes get soo stressed that i find a couple puffs keeps me from saying or doing things that i will regret after...

perhaps i should remember the real raeson i use it , besides just liking the buzz . i do use it as a mood stabilizer i infact stayed home today from work because i can feel the anger monkey coming back and dont want to do or say anything that i will regret at work.

i know some might say that is maybe the withdrawl talking but i know better , i had honestly all most forgot the biggest reason why i use it . because it has been working for a long time at keeping me going at work

I agree that it's a very effective mood stabilizer. Daily use seems to keep mood swings and anger at bay.

While excess anger, boredom, and mood swings might be withdrawal symptoms, if they existed prior to Cannabis use and are coming back as a result of abstinence, I don't consider them true withdrawals, as much as the returning of now untreated issues. It's like considering depression a withdrawal from antidepressants.

 

[biohacker]

Daily use seems to keep mood swings and anger at bay.

Everyone is different, for me it was the complete opposite. Even my girlfriend is noticing that i'm more "stable", I don't have the massive mood swings anymore. I have a friend who is 2 months ahead of me on his break (think he's going 6 months to a year) and his main reason for stopping was due to the extreme mood swings. He has never vaped though, been combusting for the past decade. I think there is a massive difference between the two especially from a withdrawal perspective.

So last night I slept bomb 7 hours straight! WOW do I feel like a completely different human today! I wish I could feel like this everyday, and hoping to in time. My night sweat is back, although it doesn't smell like weed anymore.

Happy 4/20! @Alexis are you still pushing through? Hazy are you still going or ending the break today?

Vape a blaster for me fellas!!

 

[invertedisdead]

You can be a daily user and go through 5 grams a day or .05 grams a day though. Correlation and causation; dosage size and frequency are key variables regarding "daily use" and likely result in very different outcomes.

Hopefully with legalization we can actually study the effects of cannabis without prohibition bias and propaganda skewing the test results, and discover more long term usage facts.

 

[Alexis]

I must confess that I bowed out of my break last night. I wasn't really on a break though for the sake of a break. It was just a vapor break initially for my homoepathic treatment, and then I stopped using the edibles because they dont agree with me.
I went exactlt 7 days between doses. But not 7 days and nights abstinence, so notmquite a week.
My depression was starting to get unhealthy for me. If I let it go too far, it can build up a dark wall of hopelessness and despair that is not always easy to deconstruct.
Due to my conditions, both physical and mental, it is virtually impossible for me to really relax and let go. That is where weed comes in. It is harmful for me to abstain too long at times of unwellness.

I ate a dose of edibles last nighg. I really needed to get stoned, but for the right reasons. There was no benefit to be had by abstaining. But I really dont enjoy the edibles much as they are too debilitating.
I was hoping to be able to tolerate my vapor much better by now after my homeopathy, but due to 2 viral re-infections, infection is much higher than it should be, just a hard to break bad luck cycle!

I will need to vaporize again very soon, if not today, this weekend for sure. I need to just get my energy up a bit first as the allergy mangement will be much more demading than it would have been if I hadn't picked up the 2 coxsackie viruses again, and gotten clear at last, as very likely would have happened this time.
Still, hang in there all you breakers. We all have our own reasons and needs to do what is right for us at the timd.
Dont let guilt be a burden. Just be honest with yourself and have confidencd. Throw fear put the window ( @EverythingsHazy ). You are gling through a transition. Change is unsettlimg and can be scary. Just go with it and trust that you are going in the right direction and that the changes will be worth it and Im sure you will be able to improve your relationship,with cannabis so tnat it worls better for you!

There is light after the tunnel! Stay strong, think positive!

And @biohacker , great that you had a better sleep! Just take it as it comes day by day!

 

[chris 71]

i too ended up vaping on the night of day 5 . i did intend to go a full week but , i to have a medical need .
i think i accomplished what i needed to , as i said i really just wanted to see if the nausea and bowel troubles i was having could have been from my vaping . and nothing changed in that regard in 5 full days
so im happy to say , happy 420 to all !!

 

[biohacker]

Well I received my CBD tincture as well as 99% CBD isolate crystals ($100/gram!). Not time to bust out my gear and attempt to vape the crystals so I took a few drops of the tincture under the tongue and almost immediately felt something! Almost like the same feeling I experience of getting baked from time to time just from my fat stores, or the withdrawal process...kind of like body tingles, but in a pleasant way (when I want it, sometimes it's annoying). Feeling super calm and relaxed....zero tension. My girlfriend did not feel the same effects, but her past usage of vaping was nothing even close to mine. She did say she felt extremely calm, and all tension vanished!

Feeling super tired now....so far i'm liking this....going to take a few more drops, and hopefully can sleep again tonight. I can't even imagine what back to back nights of sleep will feel like! Oh yeah, any and all pain seems to be gone. Does this sound right? Or is it placebo?

I also received dozens of strains again (Damn SAS -strain A S), but mostly in 1g zippies....@jcat LCS is still the same 'ol awesome dispensary it has always been! But I need to get some proper containers to put this stuff in. I usually use 250ml mason jars for ounces, 125ml for 1/2's, 75ml for 1/4's but need something decent (prefer glass) for 1/8th's as well as single grams. Any ideas for cost effective solutions? I need to store these meds for like 3-6 months+ if not longer. At this point I just keep them all in the small zips, threw them in a huge mason jar and tossed a bunch of boveda packs in.

And the SAS isn't over yet.... found even more awesome outdoor!

 

[Squiby]

Any ideas for cost effective solutions? I need to store these meds for like 3-6 months+ if not longer.

I store all my strains in mason jars with an oxygen pack and a bodeva pack. Then I vacuumed them with a food saver mason jar sealer. Store in a cool dark place for as long as you like. This is the cheapest and most effective storage solution that I know of.

https://www.amazon.ca/FoodSaver-Fre...TF8&qid=1492738592&sr=8-5&keywords=Food+saver

https://www.amazon.ca/FoodSaver-Wid...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=P16B2HTRVSNZSQNA5PH3

https://www.amazon.ca/FoodSaver-Reg...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=833D5D7Q717FNZ2R6J2X

https://www.amazon.ca/Oxy-Sorb-100-...F8&qid=1492738768&sr=1-1&keywords=Oxygen+pack

 

[biohacker]

Thanks @Squiby! I posted a thread in ask FC, and think I found the best solution for my situation. Mason jars for over 1/8's, and small plastic air tight containers for the gram nugs.

So another shit ass night.... seems to be an every other night phenomenon. Took some more CBD oil and some melatonin, 5htp, and theanine... was the hardest and longest time to fall asleep (I have heard that CBD isn't great for sleep, and actually causes alertness in some), but I managed to finally doze off around 10:30pm or so. Then I was up at 3:30am and that was that. Another day of pain today.

Today is day 22. No choice but to keep pushing and hoping that sleep improves as it has in the past. No dreaming... and now at 6:30am i'm starting to feel "waves" of something...perhaps it's the cbd, or just my body burning up fat stores for energy and releasing more metabolites.

Had such an amazing day yesterday too! But probably overstimulated. I'm also getting night sweats again and start to freeze after I wake up in the middle of the night, and freezing in the morning. Now the weather is up and down and quite cool and damp presently. Perhaps it's the hormones balancing or the thyroid or whatever regulates body temp. I don't freeze in the evenings with the chills like before when I was vaping though, which is a fairly common thing amongst those that use cannabis.

I guess i'm alone here now? Hazy are you still on your break??

 

[Alexis]

Thanks @Squiby! I posted a thread in ask FC, and think I found the best solution for my situation. Mason jars for over 1/8's, and small plastic air tight containers for the gram nugs.

So another shit ass night.... seems to be an every other night phenomenon. Took some more CBD oil and some melatonin, 5htp, and theanine... was the hardest and longest time to fall asleep (I have heard that CBD isn't great for sleep, and actually causes alertness in some), but I managed to finally doze off around 10:30pm or so. Then I was up at 3:30am and that was that. Another day of pain today.

Today is day 22. No choice but to keep pushing and hoping that sleep improves as it has in the past. No dreaming... and now at 6:30am i'm starting to feel "waves" of something...perhaps it's the cbd, or just my body burning up fat stores for energy and releasing more metabolites.

Had such an amazing day yesterday too! But probably overstimulated. I'm also getting night sweats again and start to freeze after I wake up in the middle of the night, and freezing in the morning. Now the weather is up and down and quite cool and damp presently. Perhaps it's the hormones balancing or the thyroid or whatever regulates body temp. I don't freeze in the evenings with the chills like before when I was vaping though, which is a fairly common thing amongst those that use cannabis.

I guess i'm alone here now? Hazy are you still on your break??

Dont feel alone buddy! We are listening, Im not surprised you didnt have a terrific night sleep.
I know the scenario too well myself. Once in a rare while I get a good sleep, meaning 7 hours without being awake frequently or half conscious throughout, with some restful hours.

And like you, the next day it is such a buzz to be alive. The whole day the world is an entirely different place.

I feel immensely relaxed, confident, happier, sociable, secure.
I am comfortable in others' company, but also very at ease and content, and entertained in my own company.

It is a glimpse of how some fortunate folk feel all the time. They take it for granted dont they? Hitting the pillow, BANG! 8 undusturbed hours sleep every single night!

With my fatigue condtion, sleep quaity and amount is linked more than anything else.
Really bad sleep and when I get up I'm finished for the day. Just so weak and slow and handicapped. And I get really agitated at how fucked I am. No pleasure in anyhting on those (frequent) days!

And after occasional better sleep, I spring out of bed with energy to burn, in comparison. It seems like thete is twice as much time, and half as much to do. So easy. From nothing being possible, it seems like anything is possible.

And that feeling of mental freedom, peace, no matter what.
I KNOW you can relate to all of this! But like you, a good night means a guarantee of a bad following night. God just doesnt seem to allow 2 good nights in a row!

The best sleep I ever get is if I actually stay up all night, the folowing night.

So hang in there man! I may not be on a cannabreak now, but we're all in the same boat still in life, on our individual journeys, against the current.
I slept less than 4 hours last night. I had durban vapor followed by pollen vapor before bed.
Wow that pollen is like morphine! It just takes everything away! I remembered why I used to like it. Its really clean and strong. I dont think Im exactly allergic to it, but it did make me real tight and wheezy. But I think that is the natute of pollen, especially for asthmatics.

I got up prematurely cos Im not feeling terrible, and I wanted to sort my chest out. I just did a herborizer essential oil session. Wow, super effective at clearing my lungs.
My chest is alright actually, following the first nights vapor since my break.

Tired but feeling so much more relaxed, relievd from my vapor. Im actually starting the day mentally at ease. Hungry too. When I vape my bowels and intestines relax and things start to flow. It is when I dont vape that my system just stagnates from not being able to relax and let go at all.
Keep going pal. Nearly a month! That's a great achievement. I hope you can have your testing done at the earliest safest moment. Maybe in 5 weeks? Hopefully long enough to be clear, and not TOO long to focus. Nearly half way, going down the hill next!

 

[biohacker]

Thanks so much @Alexis my god do you fully understand! You described things EXACTLY!!!! It's like a good night of sleep guarentees a bad one the next! And if I do ANYTHING out of routine, i'm fucked as well, but that could also be the bipolar. It's been like this for YEARS, and although the stressful shiftwork didn't help, i'm now thinking it's the weed and withdrawals....I have no choice but to keep on pushing even if it wasn't for the testing (which is such a minor part of it, because the pain clinics here can be cannabis friendly, it's more the system system with the psychiatry that look down on it (some don't)). My doctor (general) is so pro cannabis, and so anti pharma which is shocking but so true...his wife practices ayurveda so i've been to her for consult, and she helped alot but I can't afford to keep seeing her. He says that with pharma you need to go through a cleanse of several months and then start natural treatments, and i'm feeling this way about cannabis as well, due to my abuse. It will take time...alot of it....but i'm confident I will get there, all I have to do is look up my old posts, and see that i've said that i'm sleeping better than EVER, but it going to take several more weeks.

With that said, I want to buy the Herborizer Ti due to the 4/20 sale a european retailer! It's like nothing has changed in my brain with respect to weed and VAS, except that I just don't vape right now! Lol

Today i'm going to experiment with the CBD isolate crystals in my supreme with an awesome built in screen @lazylathe made for me.... it smells very sweet.... i'm not sure how much value the CBD tincture I have has, I just took another 10 drops..... with the fatigue it's so hard to tell what is what.

I'll get to your PM as well....that was the mother of all PM's bro! lol

Thanks again so much for your support and empathy......... I have more friends on FC than in the "real" world (whatever that is) lol It's just so refreshing that you know how I feel and go though this sleepless BS as well. I just sometimes think too much that the cannabis abuse is what caused this. It's the chicken or the egg scenario....all over google.... heavy cannabis users have major sleep disorders, but it's correlation so who knows what came first. I do know how much it affects sleep architecture, so i'm guessing it's a bit of both, but in the end it's probably all the damn chemicals that mess up the delicate balance of our brain chemistry.

All I know now is that I don't know nothing!!!!!! Ugh!

 

[Alexis]

All I know now is that I don't know nothing!!!!!! Ugh!

That is a healthy and humbling admission though. I have really let go of my ego, and righteous, ideallist and desperate thinking in regards to what I believe and preach, always in the name of helping others and trying to establish truth in life.

But you know what, I give up! I will do better to just let go. I dont need to think I know anything.
Ive been trying to get rid of my ego for years, not easy.
I alternate between low self esteem and worthlessness, and suddenly picking up and feeling good about myself, until the next crash.

I really dont know anything. And that is cool. But I know I have great inner spiritual wisdom, even if it doesnt show, in its place a dopey slowness.
But that is cool too! Reduce the pressure I say. Im out of the game. Nothing to prove or defend or question agonisingly!

And this line you say, is after all the famous expression from the great Socrates. He didnt pretend, and worry about trying to sound clever and tie up all the loose ends.

 

[biohacker]

Thanks Alexis, you are too wise for your years my brother. Been researching CBD, and decided that it's probably not for me at this time, as it apparently is not sleep inducing, but rather stimulates similar adenosine receptors as caffeine. Further along my research, it's pointing to severe sleep disturbance and disorders in heavy users like I was, and that the only way to really know is to abstain for a while, which i'm fortunate enough to have started.

All I can say is that for heavy users, if you are getting the sleep you need and feel refreshed and look it, you are lucky! It's the lighter and occasional users that seem to attain the most benefit for sleep. More reasons to moderate and micro dose!

I'm also confident to say that i'm experiencing my first wave of PAWS, night sweats are back, kush smelling pits, and just feeling hellish like in the early stages (even though I still am in early stages really overall)... PAWS can be a bitch and changes from minute to minute day to day. Been freezing all morning, and pissing like a race horse again...... like WTF? Must be the next stage in cleansing.

After 10 drops of CBD oil, i'm now roasting a 1/2hr later! lol What a roller coaster....can't wait until the ride is over!!!!!!!!!!

In another 3 weeks, I predict it will be completely different!

 

[biohacker]

Happy 4/20 SUP family! My 6 1/2 week t-break ended yesterday with .1g of CBD blend (9% thc 10% cbd) in the SUP, ofcourse in one big rip, and OMFG it was like the virgin first time ever! Lasted about 3.5 hours before I did a .05g topup and slept like a baby!

This is from exactly a year ago! At 6 weeks my sleep was still horrible, barely getting 4 hours per night. I'm getting about 5 hours now, 3 weeks into my break, so better than last year.

Still getting night sweats, and early 3:30am wakeups, and feel horrible during the day. I can't wait to break my personal record of 6.5 weeks. That will certainly be a milestone for me, considering the past decade of use.

This isn't easy, but anything that is worth it usually isn't. But this strain acquisition I need help for, just purchased another ounce (outdoor and an indoor sampler of super top shelf), I need to like turn myself in or something!

The positive is that the weather is starting to become incredible so it makes it a little easier. I still can't lift weights and do anything strenuous, but hiking and short runs are completely possible.

Not sure i'm digging the CBD isolate crystals... I just want all these tingles to go away.

EDIT: I now officially have Tiny Glass Jar Acquisition Syndrome!

 

[chris 71]

well i am doing absolutely terrible . after my break for 5 days i started vaping again but just tiny small amounts . and i tried the CBD only strain for a bit and im not sure whats going on but im in rough , rough shape . im thinking the cbd is somehow really messing up my brain and guts or something . i cant even seem to use any cannabis now even tiny amounts of CBD or THC or strains with low amounts of both . now seems to send me into terrible anxiety and panic attacks , hell even without any weed at all i am experiencing really , really bad anxiety and panic now . it feels like now that i took the break im really screwed up bad . i went to doc and almost went to emerge .

i dont want to even look at weed for now . this is terrible , i have wondered about CBD before because of some reactions i was having . but all the stuff you read about it makes it sound so good but im wondering if for some peoples brains it screws them up big time . all i know now is i feel tottaly messed since i went cold turkey for 5 days and seriously when i say i have only used tiny amounts since starting again i mean it like i bet i havnt had half a gram tottal since first going off break . and that was like 8 days ago