What's your favorite torch or lighter to use with the Vapcap?

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snaffle

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What are people's opinions on flat flame lighters? I'm tempted to get one (looking at the Xikar Verano), because I like the idea of having more options to either have a very targeted heat source if the flame is perpendicular to the vapcap, or a broad flame that hits most of the cap, just by rotating the lighter so the flame is parallel to the cap. Is there much to it, or does it actually make almost no difference?

I do like my single flame Aomai very much, having recently gone back to using the lighter rather than just my IH, so I'm wondering whether it's worth it to get such a fancy thing. It's a pity the Aomai is so nice, and has a replaceable flint (which I have successfully replaced in the past), so it'll probably last a long long time.
 
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snaffle

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snaffle said:
What are people's opinions on flat flame lighters? I'm tempted to get one (looking at the Xikar Verano), because I like the idea of having more options to either have a very targeted heat source if the flame is perpendicular to the vapcap, or a broad flame that hits most of the cap, just by rotating the lighter so the flame is parallel to the cap. Is there much to it, or does it actually make almost no difference?

I do like my single flame Aomai very much, having recently gone back to using the lighter rather than just my IH, so I'm wondering whether it's worth it to get such a fancy thing. It's a pity the Aomai is so nice, and has a replaceable flint (which I have successfully replaced in the past), so it'll probably last a long long time.
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I'll reply to my own post. Perhaps unsurprisingly I caved and bought the Xikar Verano lighter recently. I really like it. It's surprisingly quiet, and the flame is quite entrancing. Not a big performance upgrade or anything, but it's a very nice object to use. It heats in around the time of a normal single flame torch lighter, but the ability to heat a precise cross section of the cap at once, based on the angle you hold it, is a fun extra dynamic to play around with. It is also very handsome alongside my marvellous Omni.
 
LesPlenty

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Try posting in here, more people may see it,

What's your favorite torch or lighter to use with the Vapcap?

As I continue to get engrossed by the Vapcap thread, I learn something new everyday. But it's a long thread and finding info isn't always so easy. But fc'ers (and in particular, @Squiby and @natural farmer to name a couple) are UNBELIEVABLY helpful in providing info. I thought I'd start this...
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TheThriftDrifter

TheThriftDrifter

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TheThriftDrifter

TheThriftDrifter

Land of the long vapor cloud
So..... for the last couple of years I have probably bought a dozen or so different lighters, all have been less than $13 usd and made in china. Some have lasted well, others not so much but all have been great value.

I finally feel like I've figured out the style of lighters I like and am looking at splashing out on something longer lasting and of higher quality aka I'm sick off buying lighters.

Not looking at spending more than $60 usd on any single lighter, so the Porsche's, Dupont's and super fancy what nots are out.

Been looking at xicar, jetline, blazer and scorch torch.
Anyone had good luck with these brands?

Any other recommendations?
 
bossman

bossman

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TheThriftDrifter said:
So..... for the last couple of years I have probably bought a dozen or so different lighters, all have been less than $13 usd and made in china. Some have lasted well, others not so much but all have been great value.

I finally feel like I've figured out the style of lighters I like and am looking at splashing out on something longer lasting and of higher quality aka I'm sick off buying lighters.

Not looking at spending more than $60 usd on any single lighter, so the Porsche's, Dupont's and super fancy what nots are out.

Been looking at xicar, jetline, blazer and scorch torch.
Anyone had good luck with these brands?

Any other recommendations?
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I like these two on the rare occasion my induction heaters aren't convenient:


No butane level indicator for either is the main drawback, but the Mantello is a quiet triple with an even, short flame that's always heated well for me. I don't like to wait for the click with single torches so this is me finishing a cap in about three heat cycles.
 
Ramahs

Ramahs

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oldfool

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Farid

Farid

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^I've thought about that a lot. One that is designed to be user serviceable: easy to replace jets, tubes, and filling nozzles.

At the same time I've found using high quality butane goes a very long way in keeping torches in good shape. That and getting a higher quality torch in the first place.
 
cybrguy

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
I have never paid more than $15 for a torch lighter, and I still use many of the ones I started with in 2014. High quality butane is the main reason I have been successful with this strategy. I have literally recovered pocket torches others were about to toss with high quality butane.
Never buy Ronson (especially red) and always choose highly filtered "premium" butane. My favorite is Collibri but I have had good luck with Vector as well...
 
chlorophyll_man

chlorophyll_man

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cybrguy said:
I have never paid more than $15 for a torch lighter, and I still use many of the ones I started with in 2014. High quality butane is the main reason I have been successful with this strategy. I have literally recovered pocket torches others were about to toss with high quality butane.
Never buy Ronson (especially red) and always choose highly filtered "premium" butane. My favorite is Collibri but I have had good luck with Vector as well...
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In the UK the only gas you should put in torch lighters is one which has the "Near Zero Impurities" logo on the can. Newport is one of the most popular, there's others.
But yeah, don't use the Ronson!
 
GoldenBud

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cybrguy said:
I have never paid more than $15 for a torch lighter, and I still use many of the ones I started with in 2014. High quality butane is the main reason I have been successful with this strategy. I have literally recovered pocket torches others were about to toss with high quality butane.
Never buy Ronson (especially red) and always choose highly filtered "premium" butane. My favorite is Collibri but I have had good luck with Vector as well...
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that's the only way to keep them working for years. I get the Colibri Premium and never reaching the cheap gas since 1yr+, and wish I'd know it sooner
 
LesPlenty

LesPlenty

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d3@drock said:
I would pay literally any amount of money for a torch lighter that was truly meant to last a liftetime.
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I had a Zippo Blue jet flame lighter that had a lifetime warranty...they were constantly replacing them under warranty and now no longer sell them...still got the lifetime warranty though if you can get one second-hand.
I will add I have had no problems with any of mine since I stopped buying ultra-cheap butane...7x refined or better is the go. :tup:
 
Wyrdrock

Wyrdrock

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Farid said:
^I've thought about that a lot. One that is designed to be user serviceable: easy to replace jets, tubes, and filling nozzles.

At the same time I've found using high quality butane goes a very long way in keeping torches in good shape. That and getting a higher quality torch in the first place.
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I've been thinking about hiring a machinist and designing one myself out off all brass and stainless steel. Replaceable nozzles ect. A durable simple valve should last forever. The part that seems to break the most often is the piezo ignition system. So if I either replace that with a separate flint spark mechanism or have the piezo system easily replaceable as its own little module that would solve that issue.

As far as high quality gas goes thats why I only use Xicars high performance butane which up to now and my testing has been the best butane I've been able to find.

Until then I'm stuck using my zippo flame inserts which to be fair have been relatively reliable but I have little confidence in their longevity, but since I can at least keep re-using the same shell/case I feel it's at least semi long lived.
 
Farid

Farid

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If you decide to pursue that, I highly suggest using those "clipper" style flints, to avoid the headache of piezos.

The most important part of such a design imo is the ease of reassembly. I've taken apart lighters before and found it near impossible to reassemble without the tubes coming undone.
 
Wyrdrock

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HyDrOpOnIc1987

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Hey, just got my DV yesterday after having an Air 2 not work for me. It works amazing! My only complaint is that the little single honest torch i have doesnt heat it up very fast and plows through fuel. I'm looking for an affordable, easily aquirable from within Canada, and will help me heat a bit faster while not significantly reducing the accuracy of where i put the flame. I have about a week before i get paid, so i have some time to figure out what my options are. I'm also wondering where some good affordable butane that probably has been refined (figure whatever lighter i get will need refined butane). Any advice is much appreciated!

Love this little guy! Been a while since ive been this stoned, and it gives my hands something to do! I can feel my "need" for accessories and different stems and such coming on already lmao
 
TheThriftDrifter

TheThriftDrifter

Land of the long vapor cloud
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Lubinski SK-79 Single Flame Butane Torch Lighter

Size matters! The Lubinski SK-79 Single Flame Butane Torch is large enough to fit comfortably in your hand, while also housing a massive fuel reservoir.
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Eagle Torch - Neon Torch Gun 4" - Limited Edition

Unit or 15un Display Box...
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This style, good sized tank, easy flame adjustment, cheap.

Buy them from wherever you can get them at the best price. Check your local headshop, gas station, convenience store. Buy three of them and only use quality refined butane in them. :spliff:
 
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