Gear Universal Heater Station by D-Nail (a.k.a. Dnail, D-Nation, DNation)

[Texus]

Thought this needed it's own thread, since I think this'll be a hot (hyuck, hyuck) one. Especially if this ends up working great for wireless ballers (stay tuned, Wireless TKO should be here before too long).

After some delays (that in the long run feel quite reasonable, all things considered), my Universal Heater showed up today. Pics here are from when I was doing initial burnoff after a quick swab of the interior with iso on a Qtip (thus the placement on the cookie sheet as a precaution) . I've now had a chance to use it twice, with some of my widest bangers. It was tighter than I'd have liked but these were some wide slurper-styles (I'll follow up with the names later).

But otherwise, I am loving it after just those couple sessions. Such a nice consistent heating that can go so high up the banger, while accomodating a huge array of shapes and sizes. With the Dnail PID controller, I ran the heater at 800. Think that's a good starting point, tho I may raise that a tad once I've gotten to know it with various styles at this temp. Really fun stuff.

https://imgur.com/a/B6AViSE

 

[Abysmal Vapor]

Thought this needed it's own thread, since I think this'll be a hot (hyuck, hyuck) one. Especially if this ends up working great for wireless ballers (stay tuned, Wireless TKO should be here before too long).

After some delays (that in the long run feel quite reasonable, all things considered), my Universal Heater showed up today. Pics here are from when I was doing initial burnoff after a quick swab of the interior with iso on a Qtip (thus the placement on the cookie sheet as a precaution) . I've now had a chance to use it twice, with some of my widest bangers. It was tighter than I'd have liked but these were some wide slurper-styles (I'll follow up with the names later).

But otherwise, I am loving it after just those couple sessions. Such a nice consistent heating that can go so high up the banger, while accomodating a huge array of shapes and sizes. With the Dnail PID controller, I ran the heater at 800. Think that's a good starting point, tho I may raise that a tad once I've gotten to know it with various styles at this temp. Really fun stuff.

https://imgur.com/a/B6AViSE

This looks exactly as an electric melting furnace for metal.

Some years ago when even enails were just getting in ,i tossed the idea of preheating bangers in a soldering pot and use them wirelessly and people laughed on it . I guess industry is catching up ,haha . Probably still a viable cheapo alternative .

 

[Grass Yes]

Some years ago when even enails were just getting in ,i tossed the idea of preheating bangers in a soldering pot and use them wirelessly and people laughed on it . I guess industry is catching up ,haha . Probably still a viable cheapo alternative

Some folks are also using curling iron ovens as a very inexpensive version of a mini kiln for bangers.

I am currently waiting on the XL UTHS myself. Seems like it should be great!

 

[Ramahs]

 

[Texus]

Some folks are also using curling iron ovens as a very inexpensive version of a mini kiln for bangers.

I am currently waiting on the XL UTHS myself. Seems like it should be great!

Yeah. I was debating switching to the XL, and then while still trying to decide I got my shipping notice on this one. We'll see how I feel about the tight tolerance with my larger bangers as I live with this one. Those nails are 38-39 mm diameter and the UTHS diameter is 42 mm wide.

It is still verrrrry early, but I am also not currently seeing much need personally for the glass top accessory that folks have been grumbling about the price on (tho it is domestically made quartz, and apparently tricky to produce, so doesn't feel too out of line at $200 IMHO). They've also said they have additional accessory ideas, which will be interesting to keep an eye on.

Also, shout out to D-Nail for their early adopter support. In addition to their discounted price, they are offering a free rebuild for any changes that may come (or for any reason), or 40% off a new unit or $100 store credit.

 

[Timps27]

I friggin love it. Tallboys and/or a good tower work best. Shorter nails work just fine but the dish will get a fair amount of heat soak. It’s still a heat unit and a hot nail, so standard precautions apply, but in the right location it’s a welcome [silent] workload reduction for the torch. I heat with pearls/pillars in the nail and find even 20-30° below my normal drops I get a hot flavor, and continue to produce vapor when my DabRite is reading as low as ~360°. I’m sure the D-Nail team will continue to refine, but I am impressed with this unit.

Oh, and I have been heating only on my rig. That does limit the rigs you can use, as not all will fit well (RBR as a style in particular doesn’t work great). You could certainly leave a nail hanging in by itself, but even on the rig the neck and joint get fairly warm, resting on the metal I think it could get pretty hot to grab. I will be getting a quartz top when the first full run is in, and plan to try hanging the nails with that in place. Will update.

https://imgur.com/a/RDJJqx8

 

[Bologna]

Looks interesting, tho I do wonder how much they're "factoring in" for the lab scissor jack....

Ha:

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[SixStringToker]

Looks interesting, tho I do wonder how much they're "factoring in" for the lab scissor jack....

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It's a cheap rickety lab jack - probably costs them all of $8 in bulk. No self-respecting lab would ever use something like this!

On the plus side, cheap rickety lab jacks apparently have a very low W/m-K, which is really the only thing saving whatever surface you put this miniature space heater on. The thing that looks like a heat shield actually acts more as a radiator; it's bolted directly to the heated cup piece so the heat can transfer directly into it and burn the CRAP out of you if you bump it.

With the controller set to 800F (well within the normal operational range), I measure 500F for the top metal shield, 400F for the vented metal radiator side tube, 200F for the top plate of the lab jack and the bottom plate of the lab jack is comfortable to touch. This thing gets HOT!

 

[Bologna]

It's a cheap rickety lab jack - probably costs them all of $8 in bulk. No self-respecting lab would ever use something like this!

On the plus side, cheap rickety lab jacks apparently have a very low W/m-K, which is really the only thing saving whatever surface you put this miniature space heater on. The thing that looks like a heat shield actually acts more as a radiator; it's bolted directly to the heated cup piece so the heat can transfer directly into it and burn the CRAP out of you if you bump it.

With the controller set to 800F (well within the normal operational range), I measure 500F for the top metal shield, 400F for the vented metal radiator side tube, 200F for the top plate of the lab jack and the bottom plate of the lab jack is comfortable to touch. This thing gets HOT!

Ha, yeah, like $8 at Harbor Freight... I don't really see much of an advantage to heating a hammer this way... seems like more of a fire/burn/stinky errant hair hazard than the Terp Ready.... and yeah, I haven't used a blender or the like yet, but I guess it's currently your only choice other than fire or wires for those types of bangers. I mean, other than being a better/cooler form factor, why not heat it while you're hitting...? Isn't that what makes it more appealing than say, chucking your slurper in the toaster oven...?

EDIT: HA! Dance team "LIKE AROUND".... or rather: "Jump, mofos, JUMP!"

'I FINK U FREEKY' by DIE ANTWOORD (Official)

Puppets on strings....

 

[Timps27]

https://imgur.com/a/4uRMpYz

Quartz top came in, definitely an improvement all around. I would feel fine leaving a nail hanging in it with the quartz top on.

Unsurprisingly I’m driving the temps down as low as I can, I’m currently heat soaking at 515° (DC PID). At that temp I can hold my hand a couple inches above the chimney for a length of time without getting uncomfortable. And the heat soak makes pillars of mass into thermal batteries. I’m dropping 40°+ cooler than I did with a torch, and I’m producing vapor well into the mid-low 300° range on the DR.

I have no concerns on the heat it’s giving off (again very minimal at 515), and it’s not just a replacement for the torch, but an upgraded experience all around. I’ll still use my torch time to time (a few of my nails don’t fit the UH), but my daily routine will never include one again.

Great work D-Nail team!

 

[Bologna]

v1.1 are due out in about a month (20% off site-wide, too):

D-Nail on Instagram: "What should we cook next? Also, the v1.1 heaters are on deck. We're being a little conservative with our timing after the delays on parts for the original launch, but we're about a month out. The short of it: ●higher max temp

267 likes, 41 comments - dnailusa on May 16, 2024: "What should we cook next? Also, the v1.1 heaters are on deck. We're being a little conservative with our timing after the delays on parts for the original launch, but we're about a month out. The short of it: ●higher max temp ●cooler outside...

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Edit: Is the XL the same price...?

 

[Texus]

v1.1 are due out in about a month (20% off site-wide, too):

D-Nail on Instagram: "What should we cook next? Also, the v1.1 heaters are on deck. We're being a little conservative with our timing after the delays on parts for the original launch, but we're about a month out. The short of it: ●higher max temp

267 likes, 41 comments - dnailusa on May 16, 2024: "What should we cook next? Also, the v1.1 heaters are on deck. We're being a little conservative with our timing after the delays on parts for the original launch, but we're about a month out. The short of it: ●higher max temp ●cooler outside...

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Edit: Is the XL the same price...?

I am seeing a $50 difference in price on the 1.1. BTW, also like that Dnail will have multiple upgrade/exchange options for current users. Niiice.

 

[Mickk]

How are people liking their units?

 

[Mickk]

Well, I hope people are liking theirs, since I just ordered:
- Universal Torchless Heating System XL v1.1
- Pukinbeagle Power Tower - 2025 Edition
- Quartz Lotus - Pukinbeagle x D-Nail - Bundle (with the Pukinbeagle Quartz Bowl)
- Dragonscale Pillars | ESB x D-Nail Collab

And a bunch of accessories. Very excited to say the least!

 

[Grass Yes]

Well, I hope people are liking theirs, since I just ordered:
- Universal Torchless Heating System XL v1.1
- Pukinbeagle Power Tower - 2025 Edition
- Quartz Lotus - Pukinbeagle x D-Nail - Bundle (with the Pukinbeagle Quartz Bowl)
- Dragonscale Pillars | ESB x D-Nail Collab

And a bunch of accessories. Very excited to say the least!

I like mine a lot although I have been dabbing less lately. It's pretty foolproof and it works really well for odd shaped stuff like blenders or the Lava lamp. Probably better than a torch for the longevity of the banger too. I did not do the upgrade from the 1.0 to 1.1 although I hear it is an improvement.

I keep thinking about buying the less expensive VGW Lotus, but I haven't yet. Although I suspect it is as nice as the 18MK, which works well in the UTHS.

 

[637vape]

Well, I hope people are liking theirs, since I just ordered:
- Universal Torchless Heating System XL v1.1
- Pukinbeagle Power Tower - 2025 Edition
- Quartz Lotus - Pukinbeagle x D-Nail - Bundle (with the Pukinbeagle Quartz Bowl)
- Dragonscale Pillars | ESB x D-Nail Collab

And a bunch of accessories. Very excited to say the least!

how are the tower and lotus? I'm using a he control tower and a esb power slurpey in my xl 1.1 and it's been great so far.

 

[Mickk]

how are the tower and lotus? I'm using a he control tower and a esb power slurpey in my xl 1.1 and it's been great so far.

I have not received my order yet, their website listed a 1-3 week period for the products to be made. I reached out to them over the weekend, and was told Puking Beagle was working on my items

So I'll have to be a bit more patient, which is fine, since I am waiting for my new rig anyway: https://fuckcombustion.com/threads/heady-glass-appreciation.49664/post-1818463

 

[Shit Snacks]

I've been tempted by picking up that XL on sale as well, but primarily to use with my hot knot diamond skillet bangers would be the goal... I have a couple slurper blender types, and classic buckets, but I almost never use those anymore, 9/10 I am using the hot knots, I'm not sure how well they would fit or heat up in the XL, could it be used to heat clean them as well?... My concern is over the actual joint heating up inside as well, not sure if that is going to cause issues dropping into the rig etc?? I also have 18 mm killer, I guess when you put that in, the female joint gets hot below the balls, but that might not be as bad of a situation compared to the male joint of a knot heating up???

 

[farf]

I've been tempted by picking up that XL on sale as well, but primarily to use with my hot knot diamond skillet bangers would be the goal... I have a couple slurper blender types, and classic buckets, but I almost never use those anymore, 9/10 I am using the hot knots, I'm not sure how well they would fit or heat up in the XL, could it be used to heat clean them as well?... My concern is over the actual joint heating up inside as well, not sure if that is going to cause issues dropping into the rig etc?? I also have 18 mm killer, I guess when you put that in, the female joint gets hot below the balls, but that might not be as bad of a situation compared to the male joint of a knot heating up???

So I own an original XL and it's really not made for those straight shot bangers. It's designed specifically for quartz that has an arm coming off the side and a body that can hang into the device. The stem and joint on a knot will get hot to the point where it could damage your rig even if you use lab clamps or something to place it on.

Disorderly conduction makes a heater specifically for knots; it's a collab between them and J-Red who invented the diamond knot style banger so if you use knots exclusively it might be worth the investment but it is a very niche and specific use device. Not so much a "universal" heater (which I guess you can argue this isn't since it doesn't heat knots, lol).

 

[Shit Snacks]

Disorderly conduction makes a heater specifically for knots; it's a collab between them and J-Red who invented the diamond knot style banger so if you use knots exclusively it might be worth the investment but it is a very niche and specific use device. Not so much a "universal" heater (which I guess you can argue this isn't since it doesn't heat knots, lol).

Oooh! Thank you so much for the detailed reply my dude, I had no idea about this other offering from them specifically made for heating my knots, someone else I know bent a coil around so they can set it over knots as a heater, figured I would have to get something like that going at some point... So I'll have to look into this other system!

Yeah UHS is appealing so I could also heat my good vibes EMK and the few hanging bangers I do use, also letting things clean themselves in there... but maybe it is not quite right for me, at least right now...

 

[farf]

Oooh! Thank you so much for the detailed reply my dude, I had no idea about this other offering from them specifically made for heating my knots, someone else I know bent a coil around so they can set it over knots as a heater, figured I would have to get something like that going at some point... So I'll have to look into this other system!

Yeah UHS is appealing so I could also heat my good vibes EMK and the few hanging bangers I do use, also letting things clean themselves in there... but maybe it is not quite right for me, at least right now...

Of course! The knots are such a niche piece they kind of have to have a purpose built heating device. I linked JRed's electronic heater setup below. He does sell just the pyramid stand on it's own if you have a properly sized coil and PID to run it.

Tetrahedron coil holder and disorderlyconduction enail setup - JRed Glass

this setup comes with the quad stack 10mm or 14mm male diamondknot and the tetrahedron coil holder and the disorderlyconduction enail controller. this set up is my new style of...

jredglass.com

 

[Grass Yes]

Yeah UHS is appealing so I could also heat my good vibes EMK

The DC/Jred suggestion looks like it could work for the emk too:

Tetrahedron coil holder - JRed Glass

This is the tetrahedron coil holder and coil for heating the diamondknot with out a torch.

jredglass.com

Edited to add: Farf beat me to it lol.

 

[farf]

The DC/Jred suggestion looks like it could work for the emk too:

Tetrahedron coil holder - JRed Glass

This is the tetrahedron coil holder and coil for heating the diamondknot with out a torch.

jredglass.com

Edited to add: Farf beat me to it lol.

@Shit Snacks

The really nice thing about the JRed holder is it keeps the neck of the banger at an ideal angle so you can just grab it by hand and drop it into your piece.

I'm assuming if the outer diameters of the knots and the EMK (I do not own either) are the same it would work just fine but since borosilicate transfers heat much more easily than quartz you might need something to grab that device out of the coil to avoid burning your hands.

Also sorry if we're not supposed to discuss this product in the D-Nail post I'm not sure if there's a thread for the knots at this moment.

 

[Grass Yes]

Also sorry if we're not supposed to discuss this product in the D-Nail post I'm not sure if there's a thread for the knots at this moment.

It's not really a comparison in the traditional sense. These are two devices with probably very little overlap in the nails they support.

But we could definitely create a Tetrahedron thread if there is interest.

 

[Shit Snacks]

assuming if the outer diameters of the knots and the EMK (I do not own either) are the same it would work just fine but since borosilicate transfers heat much more easily than quartz you might need something to grab that device out of the coil to avoid burning your hands.

EMK is all quartz like a banger btw

Yeah that is a nice setup, I'm not sure though because I have different size knots, some might not fit as well as others etc... hmmm also not such a fan of that price although I would need a full kit potentially anyway, we'll see, best option really might just be having someone warp a coil for me to go over as a cage and have a little stand for them, then the bottom would stay cool enough to grab, or just tong it...

I wonder if some sort of cage like that could just be made to fit the UHS better and make it usable for knots in a more ideal way?? How do you like that, I brought it back on topic lol