I think I'm done with oils/waxes/shatter etc.

shredhead

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Now I've been making oil for a good 3 years now and lately it's been slowing down. I used to make oil every week or 2, now it's only once every couple of months. I think ive become scared of solvent use. Every time I take a hit, even of really nicely done oil it never feels the same as Vaping herb. I feel like I waste my herb when I make oil now adays where as before it saved me weed ( I smoked ontop of Vaping for a long while, now I'm strictly vape). So I think this is my official goodbye to oils for a long while. I'll stick to my kief to get that super " high" but I think for now I'm good with the herb. Oil gave me some great times, but it's just too unnatural for me I guess..maybe one day I will try bubble hash. Goodbye my errl heads!

~shredhead~
 
ShipDit

ShipDit

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I've just been introduced to "dabs" recently and for me it's an occasional thing,just to intense for everyday use. Flower Power!!
If you need to get any oil out of your house and life PM me. I am the "designated drug-doer" in my neighborhood and will gladly help any way I can! Anything to help out a fellow FCer.
 
shredhead

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ShipDit said:
I've just been introduced to "dabs" recently and for me it's an occasional thing,just to intense for everyday use. Flower Power!!
If you need to get any oil out of your house and life PM me. I am the "designated drug-doer" in my neighborhood and will gladly help any way I can! Anything to help out a fellow FCer.
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If I had oil I would gladly give it out! All I have is this measly bubblegumXpurplekush to hand out! :)
 
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I've had kind of a similar experience, well i like vaping flowers only. I hate vaping wax/oil/shatter. I won't do it. I'll vape flower all day but ti nail has become my absolute favorite...

Now then, if we're talking about concentrates, i LOVE my Ti nail and dome. I just have a cheap $25 eBay one and a friends old used oil dome & slide but it works great. Really effective. I hit it a few times a day and I'm good.
 
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dannkk

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I'm sort of there with you, man. When I have access to top shelf flowers, I have no desire for concentrates at all. It's a weird situation, though. I stopped vaping, because it began to eat up to much time. Think my tolerance got to high, or w/e, but if I want to get high with a vape, it takes me 30-45 minutes and that's by myself...could be there for hours with more people. So I got back to smoking, because it was a lot faster. Now...I don't like dabs cuz it's to fast! I can't just take one hit and be done. I'll sit there and do four or five dabs, just cuz I feel like i have to take four or five hits before I'm finished. So, yea...lately, I just smoke, really really good, clean flowers. Hope saying that doesn't get me banned...I can still contribute. :p
 
ShipDit

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dannkk said:
I'm sort of there with you, man. When I have access to top shelf flowers, I have no desire for concentrates at all. It's a weird situation, though. I stopped vaping, because it began to eat up to much time. Think my tolerance got to high, or w/e, but if I want to get high with a vape, it takes me 30-45 minutes and that's by myself...could be there for hours with more people. So I got back to smoking, because it was a lot faster. Now...I don't like dabs cuz it's to fast! I can't just take one hit and be done. I'll sit there and do four or five dabs, just cuz I feel like i have to take four or five hits before I'm finished. So, yea...lately, I just smoke, really really good, clean flowers. Hope saying that doesn't get me banned...I can still contribute. :p
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You're banned! Now send me all your flowers and turn in your i.d. card
 
YeeeBuddy

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I kind of feel the same way, I just feel like their is something missing with the oil high that i get from flowers. It gets me medicated don't get me wrong, I usually vape OIL at work because its alot faster/smells less. Its a hell of alot better than nothing but the effect is just different I don't know how to explain it. When i get home and on my days off Its all flowers.
 
shredhead

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YeeeBuddy said:
I kind of feel the same way, I just feel like their is something missing with the oil high that i get from flowers. It gets me medicated don't get me wrong, I usually vape OIL at work because its alot faster/smells less. Its a hell of alot better than nothing but the effect is just different I don't know how to explain it. When i get home and on my days off Its all flowers.
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That's exactly what I mean!!!! Oil is not a FULL high. As soon as I have a good vape sesh I feel FULL. When I have an oil sesh I feel HIGH and only for like 30min. Vaping keeps me FULL for hours :)
 
Deadhead101

Deadhead101

I am the Vapor King--I can do anything
When push comes to shove, what really is the point of oil? Convenience? Portability? Novelty?

One of the main benefits I see of oil is that it can potentially get you ripped faster than buds, due to higher concentration (not the biggest deal IMO). I also notice that portable oil pens are very mobile and stealthy. But besides that, what's the big deal?

Oil is just flower that's been transformed, right? What's so special about that? There's a decent enough chance IMO (I'm no expert) that there are gonna be some impurities in the oil, unless you are making or buying high quality oil. Plus there's also a chance you might be losing some potency through the process of making the oil, right?

I'm just trying to weigh out the risks /rewards of oil. I've only had several experiences with BHO myself, but based on what I know and have experienced, this is the way I see BHO: novel, but nonessential.
 
shredhead

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Deadhead101 said:
When push comes to shove, what really is the point of oil? Convenience? Portability? Novelty?

One of the main benefits I see of oil is that it can potentially get you ripped faster than buds, due to higher concentration (not the biggest deal IMO). I also notice that portable oil pens are very mobile and stealthy. But besides that, what's the big deal?

Oil is just flower that's been transformed, right? What's so special about that? There's a decent enough chance IMO (I'm no expert) that there are gonna be some impurities in the oil, unless you are making or buying high quality oil. Plus there's also a chance you might be losing some potency through the process of making the oil, right?

I'm just trying to weigh out the risks /rewards of oil. I've only had several experiences with BHO myself, but based on what I know and have experienced, this is the way I see BHO: novel, but nonessential.
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That's what I'm realizing. Always knew it was a novelty but now it's just hard to justify it. I think I'm gunna get a herb cart for my old style thermovape or get a MFLB again for those real sneaky situations, because right now I use omicron carts. They work phenomenal, but don't seem to get me as medicated as say havin a solo bowl. My solo just can't go to the bar or other places where discreet is key.
 
aesthyrian

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Deadhead101 said:
When push comes to shove, what really is the point of oil? Convenience? Portability? Novelty?

One of the main benefits I see of oil is that it can potentially get you ripped faster than buds, due to higher concentration (not the biggest deal IMO). I also notice that portable oil pens are very mobile and stealthy. But besides that, what's the big deal?

Oil is just flower that's been transformed, right? What's so special about that? There's a decent enough chance IMO (I'm no expert) that there are gonna be some impurities in the oil, unless you are making or buying high quality oil. Plus there's also a chance you might be losing some potency through the process of making the oil, right?

I'm just trying to weigh out the risks /rewards of oil. I've only had several experiences with BHO myself, but based on what I know and have experienced, this is the way I see BHO: novel, but nonessential.
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I don't understand your question? Oil, if done correctly, can have zero impurities and be a smoother "smoke" than a vapor hit IME. You will also have a more pure product, rather than losing potency. Why do we vape? Smoking works just as well right? Well, no. Same applies to oils/hashes/concentrates. Do it if it's for you, and if its not, then don't. And when we talk about impurities, well they exists in practically everything, including buds. Depending on who grew it and how it was grown your bud can have all sorts of nastiness in it, so don't use impurities as an argument against concentrates.

Sorry If it seems like I am attacking you, that is definitely not my intention. I just commonly come across people who just seem to have an agenda against oils/concentrates... and it reminds me so much of the people that have an agenda against vaporizing, yet have no real justifiable reasons for their dislike. Seems like they just want to bash the newest and latest thing. It's human nature I suppose.
 
Buildozer

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aesthyrian said:
.....Oil, if done correctly, can have zero impurities and be a smoother "smoke" than a vapor hit IME.......
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i find the same true.. i don't care much for 'vaping' oils/shatters/waxes.. i find it to be more harsh.. and tedious... the ti-nail is another story though... i'd rather 'smoke' those types of extracts.. it's definitely less conservative than 'vaping' it... i just don't like 'vaping' those types of extracts... fully purged oil is a treat, and super smooth off the nail... even in excessive amounts IME.

edit: i'm talking about 'vaping' it alone.. not on herb.. i enjoy 'vaping' those extracts on herb.. just not by it self..
 
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Deadhead101

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I have nothing against oil. I'm simply trying to learn more about it, and decide if it is worth the costs associated with it like time and effort to make BHO, lots of good buds that are already perfectly vapeable, oil rig, torch, etc.

I recently bought a Revolution kit for my TV, and I am just trying to justify the purchase (it hasn't arrived yet), and decide how much oil I am going to attempt to make, and just how deep I want to delve into the world of Oil.
 
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It all boils down to what you need... And I mean each "you". I use both in conjunction daily. Sometimes I use more oil, some times more flower... Depends on my mood... Wether your a recreational user or medicinal user matters... In either or any case why be "done for good" why not be "done for right now" like putting ur piece down. You can always pick it back up later, if you choose.

The joy of choice.

Now im gonna put down this wych bowl and pick up my dome. since the thought is on my mind lol
 
shredhead

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farscaper said:
It all boils down to what you need... And I mean each "you". I use both in conjunction daily. Sometimes I use more oil, some times more flower... Depends on my mood... Wether your a recreational user or medicinal user matters... In either or any case why be "done for good" why not be "done for right now" like putting ur piece down. You can always pick it back up later, if you choose.

The joy of choice.

Now im gonna put down this wych bowl and pick up my dome. since the thought is on my mind lol
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I've been back and forth on oil so much that I think I just need a real break from it. Not saying I won't go back, but if I do I will want to be fully set up with every proper tool to do the job of extracting. Kief will just have to suffice...and it will! I'm also just tired of making oil(since I live in Canada), if I had access to well done oils it may be a different story.
 
cellardoor

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I view oil the way wineos view wine. I love tasting all the different kinds, there's different tastes and effects from different strains, solvents and purging styles and I just love all the variety. To me concentrates are for the user who wants that delicious pure hash taste and strong quick buzz.
 
YeeeBuddy

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Deadhead101 said:
When push comes to shove, what really is the point of oil? Convenience? Portability? Novelty?

One of the main benefits I see of oil is that it can potentially get you ripped faster than buds, due to higher concentration (not the biggest deal IMO). I also notice that portable oil pens are very mobile and stealthy. But besides that, what's the big deal?

I'm just trying to weigh out the risks /rewards of oil. I've only had several experiences with BHO myself, but based on what I know and have experienced, this is the way I see BHO: novel, but nonessential.
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For me its portability/stealth/speed. With my cera i can carry it on me easily, or I go out to my car at work and take a few HUGE oil hits in under a minute with very little smell, not really possible with flower. If I am on vacation or something and trying to be really discreet I will go oil only. It gets me medicated pretty well but like shreadhead said its not a full high like I get from flowers and it doesn't last as long.

IMO its not worth making yourself unless you grow and have a bunch of trim/buds to spare.
 
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Deadhead101 said:
When push comes to shove, what really is the point of oil? Convenience? Portability? Novelty?
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Yes, these are all compelling reasons to like the errl, let me add a few more.
Speed is a huge factor (already mentioned by a few others). I can do 3 dabs and be out the door in about 2 minutes.
Less stress on your mouth and air path since you are inhaling much less hot vapor.
No dealing with fussy little mesh baskets, grinders, abv, or nasty last hits.
I really like the glass associated with dabbing. Any vaporist should be grateful for the direction that it has taken the industry since the notion of water cooling, without filtering out all the flavor, is also perfect for a vaporbong setup. Simple percs, smaller size and those kwazy recyclers, yea!
No worries about breaking your expensive fancy vape (granted this isn't a concern for everyone).
 
Roger D

Roger D

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Just got an included Ti nail packed with a piece I bought. I have domes, and almost all my pieces are DI. I don't know.. That would be for the experience, I don't have access to anything so I'll have to make my concentrate myself that is the point of the hesitation. I got ISO99 and a freezer tough. Not so sure about using ISO for safety.. Still would need a torch and dabber.
The torch by itself can be a nasty piece of equipment. Looking for a good one I stumbled upon strange stories about leaky models burning users hands and stuff like that..
For the dabber glass on Ti is ok ? or Ti on Ti ? Not sure that is for me..
 
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