Hot Hole Depth

[JustNux]

Hi ,

I'm working on a hot hole design that I am to the point of having made, however up until this point I have kept the traditional mindset of making the hot hole deep enough to fit my function with maybe a little bit of room depth wise to accommodate for something new I might get etc. It will be an armoured coil enclosed at the base though so this will be a hard limit for my current design fitting new things.

But I started to consider after looking at some of he Ace hot hole video's that maybe depth really doesn't matter so much when you close in the bottom and I should provide as much reasonable depth as I can making the chamber an oven. Once anything is inserted any air below the device inserted should still provide heating from all sides and the bottom albeit a little oven rather than the base of the hot hole or coil itself.

Thoughts , comments , considerations all very much appreciated

:-)

 

[Grass Yes]

Are you looking for heating gavel bangers or wireless ball vapes? I don't actually use my coils for bangers anymore but I do have a bunch for various wireless ball vapes.

For ball vapes, an axial coil is fine but usually not necessary and sometimes a waste. I typically use barrels, or even the armor barrel coil for that. I haven't looked at the Ace but I remember some of the early prototypes were a carbon copy of the armor design.

 

[JustNux]

Are you looking for heating gavel bangers or wireless ball vapes? I don't actually use my coils for bangers anymore but I do have a bunch for various wireless ball vapes.

For ball vapes, an axial coil is fine but usually not necessary and sometimes a waste. I typically use barrels, or even the armor barrel coil for that. I haven't looked at the Ace but I remember some of the early prototypes were a carbon copy of the armor design.

I'm hoping for it to be a one coil fits both tasks design , my primary use case is the wireless ball-vape which atm I use an axial coil for primarily but where this is going is currently a barrel coil anyway and it's not a big issue. Banger wise I only use one a few times a week atm so having it be able to suit both is a must for me

My coil design is an armoured stainless steel design with an altered lead position , the Ace one is similar to a standard 200w armoured coil but at least from the looks of things he's gone for a much deeper coil and armour than the device would have "needed" with a sealed in bottom.

My design has a sealed in bottom as well and I think I've simply been putting too much consideration into making it the "right depth" for now and in the unknown future lol.

If others are as happy as I am with a barrel coil then in theory I only want to stress about making it too shallow , past that I'm thinking it doesn't matter (though every bit of mass is something to initially heat up)

 

[Grass Yes]

If others are as happy as I am with a barrel coil then in theory I only want to stress about making it too shallow

I have several depths of 25mm coils and several heights of ball vapes. The tallest vape of the bunch is the Chaos. I believe the shortest is the TKO. While I have found with the TKO and the Epitome, a bit more coverage is better, the shallower coils just take more time to saturate the thermal mass. No coil I have is tall enough to cover the entire ball chamber of the Chaos, iirc. Also it's handle design requires an axial coil anyway.

So you can definitely get away with a shorter coil with ball vapes. For buckets, obviously the bottom is what you want heated anyway, so the depth is less important and the bottom is crucial.