Glass pieces suited for dry cooling

[TigoleBitties]

Hey FC people!

Forgive me if this has been raised before (mods pls merge if so) but I didn't find a topic about glass pieces that work well dry or are meant to be used dry.

I readily admit that I'm still new to glass pieces. I own an FC-mod with a holed diffusion downstem that I use wet, and I just recently bought a small globe with diffusion slits to use as my first dry piece. You can see them both somewhat in this pic below.

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I sort of blindly picked a globe (from POTV) with a diffuser right at the bottom because I thought it would maximize the surface area of glass that the vapor would come in contact with for cooling. I also figured a sphere would give me good volume where the vapor could accumulate and cool before reaching the whip.

The whip came with the piece and I wasn't sure I'd use it initially, preferring the taste of an all-glass mouthpiece, but so far I like the convenience of it and the taste is good.

Any thoughts on pieces out there that are really good for dry cooling? Am I way off base with my first one?

 

[Grass Yes]

Any thoughts on pieces out there that are really good for dry cooling? Am I way off base with my first one?

Prophet by CC is my go-to dry piece. Also different hooks, especially my OGB sidecar.

I don't care for globes myself, but I know a few people like them a lot dry. Those folks will fill them about halfway full with soda lime glass balls or similar.

 

[Texus]

Prophet by CC is my go-to dry piece. Also different hooks, especially my OGB sidecar.

I don't care for globes myself, but I know a few people like them a lot dry. Those folks will fill them about halfway full with soda lime glass balls or similar.

Another vote for the Prophet. Was bummed when the joint on mine with the carb hole (no longer made) broke recently.

Also a big fan of the Herborizer Sherlock. Removable base is nice for easier cleaning.

Or a dimpled j-hook or a design with balls for cooling that go up the stem.

 

[TigoleBitties]

Prophet by CC is my go-to dry piece.

Yeah I know their stuff is held in high esteem but I'm a bit wary of the wait times I've seen. I'll likely end up with a piece from them eventually.

Also different hooks, especially my OGB sidecar.

I just had a look at the Oregon Glass sidecar - very nice. I have a nice hook from GVB that I use a lot (pic below).

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I don't care for globes myself, but I know a few people like them a lot dry. Those folks will fill them about halfway full with soda lime glass balls or similar.

Ok cool. What's the reason why you don't like globes? Can you tell me what you like about the Prophet? I'm open to trying other pieces.

I feel like I maybe waited too long to try a good thing - like a bigger glass piece dry. You don't really lose any flavor like some say happens through water, and you also gain time. Your vapor can sit there, cooling, while you watch and wait to draw on it when you feel like. It's also pretty cool to watch how the vapor swirls around as it fills up the space. This is the advantage over nice hooks I feel.

Edit: The Texas Hot Glass Shredder looks to me like a nice piece that would work well dry?

Edit#2: Yeah, the Prophet looks amazing. Built to be used dry. Nice.

 

[darkstar72]

I like the jhook. Specifically the dhgate dimpled jhooks. Like This.

 

[TigoleBitties]

I like the jhook. Specifically the dhgate dimpled jhooks. Like This.

Yep. Same. I have a few of those exact hooks.

I love my j-hooks but my eyes have been opened to using glass with larger surface area than just hooks now. I'm liking the extra level of cooling and the way you can pause your hits and watch the vapor cool.

 

[EarthworldTim]

I'm all about using the CC vertex dry. I'm sure the prophet is better but I don't own one.

I also love my 14mm OGB j hook with any portable but best with the TM2.

Last but not least and I should take it out more is the v1 CC xeric. It can handle some heat from the CouchLog.

 

[Texus]

Yep. Same. I have a few of those exact hooks.

I love my j-hooks but my eyes have been opened to using glass with larger surface area than just hooks now. I'm liking the extra level of cooling and the way you can pause your hits and watch the vapor cool.

In my experience, the dry pieces that work best have lots of glass surface area that the valor will touch as it goes thru the piece. So balls, dimples and/or bends are your friends. This is also the idea behind the Prophet, and why it has those multitude sharp bends in the glass.

So in a globe, less of the vapor will be cooled by the glass due to the large interior voiulme.

And then there is draw resistance and airflow. Something designed for water is going to give a bit more resistance with water and may feel too wide open without it. And way too much airflow with little resistance makes it tough to get really thick, milky hits. Pieces designed to be used dry get some additional resistance from having thinner diameter glass.

But generally I also find that draw resistance and air flow are a personal preference thing. For example, I stayed away from logs (my mistake!) due to some logs' reputation for a "milkshake thru a straw" draw, until I came across some options that did not have that feel (Couchlog and Enano XL).

 

[Perfect_Speed4069]

In my experience, the dry pieces that work best have lots of glass surface area that the valor will touch as it goes thru the piece. So balls, dimples and/or bends are your friends. This is also the idea behind the Prophet, and why it has those multitude sharp bends in the glass.

For non-US folks still looking for an Prophet alternative, this cheap tribute continues to give great performance.

 

[TigoleBitties]

In my experience, the dry pieces that work best have lots of glass surface area that the valor will touch as it goes thru the piece. So balls, dimples and/or bends are your friends. This is also the idea behind the Prophet, and why it has those multitude sharp bends in the glass.

So in a globe, less of the vapor will be cooled by the glass due to the large interior voiulme.

Makes sense. Looking at the Prophet I can see how it's designed to maximize the surface area of glass the vapor comes into contact with.

And the there is draw resistance and airflow. Something designed for water is going to give a bit more resistance with water and may feel too wide open without it. And way too much airflow with little resistance makes it tough to get really thick, milky hits. Pieces designed to be used dry get some additional resistance from having thinner diameter glass.

But generally I also find that draw resistance and air flow are a personal preference thing. For example, I stayed away from logs (my mistake!) due to some logs' reputation for a "milkshake thru a straw" draw, until I came across some options that did not have that feel (Couchlog and Enano XL).

Cool. Thanks for the advice.

 

[maremaresing]

Best glass for dry cooling?

1. In my experience, the dry pieces that work best have lots of glass surface area that the valor will touch as it goes thru the piece. So balls, dimples and/or bends are your friends. This is also the idea behind the Prophet, and why it has those multitude sharp bends in the glass.
   
   So in a globe, less of the vapor will be cooled by the glass due to the large interior voiulme.

   
   This! The same things that cool smoke/vapor in a wet piece will cool even more with dry. All those percs and chambers, let alone anything that points a jet of vapor directly against a glass wall, work wonders. (I love matrix percs for this!)
   
   
2. Whatever looks pretty. It takes very little mass to suck the heat out of vapor since it doesn't get anywhere near as hot and harsh as smoke (usually). Vapor typically fills the space uniformly, bottom to top, since the initial glass bit cools it enough to sink (and it's probably heavier than air lolol). So just get whatever you fancy.

And then there is draw resistance and airflow. Something designed for water is going to give a bit more resistance with water and may feel too wide open without it. And way too much airflow with little resistance makes it tough to get really thick, milky hits. Pieces designed to be used dry get some additional resistance from having thinner diameter glass.

I disagree with this being the fault of the glass. Sure, you can always outrun the heating on a vaporizer, but this comes down to the vape and is less an issue nowadays. I'd say if restriction needs to be introduced, it should be done at the vaporizer side, not in picking certain glass. (Or just control your draw speed!)

Or even better than restriction, more power/heat! With the XMAX V3Pro, I'd just bump the heat up a little bit. With my Fusion 2.0 + DIY induction heater, I tuned the coils when it wasn't milking a big piece like it did with a torch.

Open or restrictive draw in the glass should be left to whether you want to clear it fast or not. To this, the same things that make it hard to clear with water will affect it dry. I've found globes and cubes to have difficulty in this.

 

[TigoleBitties]

Glad to have all this good feedback. Thanks!

I'm pretty happy with this simple globe so far so I can only imagine what a nice experience something like the Prophet must be like. I love watching the vapor swirl around and fill the space. I've milked it up with big hits from the Couchlog, the Tornado, the S3 and the AE and it's handled them all like a champ.

The vapor is nice and cool and you have nice, visual, real-time feedback of how much vapor you're producing. It's also nice to be able to pause your draw and drain any overflow vapor you couldn't clear during a hit.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Yeah there definitely is talk of this in other threads, maybe not a specific thread, pretty sure the hook thread and another dry glass thread exists with plenty though... Basically there's not much benefit to using empty volume, unless that's what you want, it's not going to offer you anything really, more surface area and complex path, places like spikes, but even better is full right angles for a face plant, like Swiss holes, fab eggs, straight Fab, donuts, drop down adapters

 

[tswan]

I use the small inline fab rig from texas hot glass dry a lot. It seems just right for me. My go to dry rig.

 

[TigoleBitties]

Yeah there definitely is talk of this in other threads, maybe not a specific thread, pretty sure the hook thread and another dry glass thread exists with plenty though... Basically there's not much benefit to using empty volume, unless that's what you want, it's not going to offer you anything really, more surface area and complex path, places like spikes, but even better is full right angles for a face plant, like Swiss holes, fab eggs, straight Fab, donuts, drop down adapters

Open or restrictive draw in the glass should be left to whether you want to clear it fast or not. To this, the same things that make it hard to clear with water will affect it dry. I've found globes and cubes to have difficulty in this.

I'm starting to see that with this specific globe, I may have lucked out a bit in the draw style that I like. There is a large volume, which is nice in that there's a large area that the vapor can collect and cool while providing a nice reservoir of vapor you can draw at your own speed when it's filled.

The spherical shape doesn't at all maximize interior glass surface area for cooling but at this size, the exterior glass contact cooling, coupled with area the vapor must diffuse and fill before getting to your lungs does make the vapor temperature pleasantly cool, at least for me. The 14mm whip connector has a narrow diameter tube that gives me sufficient restriction to have good draw speed without straining, given that globes should be a shape that's airy with little natural restriction.

 

[Shit Snacks]

If that's what you enjoy, then go for it, no reason to look further, I would hate to use that at all with or without the water personally and will never own one lol

 

[TigoleBitties]

If that's what you enjoy, then go for it, no reason to look further, I would hate to use that at all with or without the water personally and will never own one lol

I enjoy it but it's really just one data point for me. I'll continue to try out things at the other end of the spectrum, like the Prophet for example, so I can get a better feel for what I like the most. The day I stop being curious and chasing a better experience is the day I should probably quit vaping.

 

[Hippie]

You can always just pour a load of marbles inside most bubblers tooo

 

[RustyOldNail]

You can always just pour a load of marbles inside most bubblers tooo

That’s what I did, in making my “dry rig”:

Behold... The Canadian Winter

I showed this thing in the Hopper IO thread and it got some reactions so I thought why not make my very first thread in the forum about it. I call this The Canadian Winter 🥶 and it's very effective at cooling the vapor without muting the flavor. As you can see it's nothing revolutionary, glass...

fuckcombustion.com

 

[Texus]

You can always just pour a load of marbles inside most bubblers tooo

But do you use SiC, Boro, or Ruby marbles?

 

[TigoleBitties]

So after a bit more experimentation, I think I like my FC-MOD dry the most out of the glass pieces I have. It has a nice balance between wider and more constricted spaces. Also, I can pimp things up a bit further with a fancy dimpled mouthpiece if I want. Using the Couchlog with this piece is

Looking forward to trying the other DHgate piece @maremaresing suggested in the cheap, high quality glass bubbler thread I think it was?

 

[MTpromises]

A Jhook with 2 dry ash catchers attached isn't that far off a Prophet.

I got this Jhook off of DHgate. I can't find an individual sale link for it anymore. But it's the best style Jhook I've tried for cooling/airflow. It has a pillar and dimples for cooling, fantastic.

https://imgur.com/a/upZZvSt

 

[Perfect_Speed4069]

Here's the link @MTpromises

 

[TedJones]

Other than the prophet, my little TAG sidecar hammerhead is my go to for a larger dry option. Works much better than with water imo. The tubing to perc narrows a lot for a good pull and it holds the vape far from the face.

https://imgur.com/a/oqP82S0

I think I like my FC-MOD dry the most out of the glass pieces I have

This is probably my most used with water but don’t think I’ve ever tried it dry The drop downs or extenders with small tubing might be useful here. I have a few large rubies/pearls for the down stem too. Will attempt later

 

[TigoleBitties]

Other than the prophet, my little TAG sidecar hammerhead is my go to for a larger dry option. Works much better than with water imo. The tubing to perc narrows a lot for a good pull and it holds the vape far from the face.

https://imgur.com/a/oqP82S0

This is probably my most used with water but don’t think I’ve ever tried it dry The drop downs or extenders with small tubing might be useful here. I have a few large rubies/pearls for the down stem too. Will attempt later

That sidecar looks really nice.

Yeah, I forgot to mention that I use mine with a 14mm dropdown from Elev8 glass that adds some extra bends. Here's a pic when I was still using it with water.

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A Jhook with 2 dry ash catchers attached isn't that far off a Prophet.

I got this Jhook off of DHgate. I can't find an individual sale link for it anymore. But it's the best style Jhook I've tried for cooling/airflow. It has a pillar and dimples for cooling, fantastic.

https://imgur.com/a/upZZvSt

Nice find!