Errlectric concentration station with herb nail or FlowerPot for mainly flower?

[Magestral77]

Hi everybody. Brand new member, long time lurker. Really torn between buying the Errlectric Concentration Station with herb nail or the FlowerPot. I'm only occasionally into concentrates as I don't like that it tends to make me immune to cannabis in its unaltered state. From what I've read they're both great vapes. I like that on the Errlectric the controller box is made in-house, is UL certified, has built in timer & all the other safety features. I also like that it has borosilicate glass for the herb chamber & the vortex "self-stirring". Flavor profiles are high on my list of priorities! What I don't like is I've read the glass handle gets pretty hot & the glass dry herb nail is a 14mm male joint. My two glass pieces: mobius ion matrix & DH Gate GB187 mobius knockoff are 18 mm. Not sure if either of my WP's are appropriate for either of these vapes? I like that the FP for herb works with 18 & 14 mm. Can I use a18/14mm reducer for the Errlectric or would that be too flimsy of a set-up? Anyone compared the flavor between these two vapes? Do you lose too much flavor with the all titanium FP? I prefer small to medium clouds with more flavor over huge clouds with less flavor. Although nothing wrong with a real lung buster now & then! One of the things I really like about the FP is their bundle includes almost everything & it all fits into the carrying case, even the GP that comes with it. It also looks like a smaller set-up area is required. Any one used both of these vapes that can provide me with any insight would be really appreciated!

My currently owned vapes in order of acquisition: Pax 1st generation, Herbalizer, Enano, Vapolution III, Firefly II, Ghost MV1 & Ed's Tnt aroma log.

I hope I didn't break any rules in sharing my thoughts & questions on these two, from what I've read, well-made vapes.

Thanks for any help!

 

[Shooby]

Hi everybody. Brand new member, long time lurker. Really torn between buying the Errlectric Concentration Station with herb nail or the FlowerPot. I'm only occasionally into concentrates as I don't like that it tends to make me immune to cannabis in its unaltered state. From what I've read they're both great vapes. I like that on the Errlectric the controller box is made in-house, is UL certified, has built in timer & all the other safety features. I also like that it has borosilicate glass for the herb chamber & the vortex "self-stirring". Flavor profiles are high on my list of priorities! What I don't like is I've read the glass handle gets pretty hot & the glass dry herb nail is a 14mm male joint. My two glass pieces: mobius ion matrix & DH Gate GB187 mobius knockoff are 18 mm. Not sure if either of my WP's are appropriate for either of these vapes? I like that the FP for herb works with 18 & 14 mm. Can I use a18/14mm reducer for the Errlectric or would that be too flimsy of a set-up? Anyone compared the flavor between these two vapes? Do you lose too much flavor with the all titanium FP? I prefer small to medium clouds with more flavor over huge clouds with less flavor. Although nothing wrong with a real lung buster now & then! One of the things I really like about the FP is their bundle includes almost everything & it all fits into the carrying case, even the GP that comes with it. It also looks like a smaller set-up area is required. Any one used both of these vapes that can provide me with any insight would be really appreciated!

My currently owned vapes in order of acquisition: Pax 1st generation, Herbalizer, Enano, Vapolution III, Firefly II, Ghost MV1 & Ed's Tnt aroma log.

I hope I didn't break any rules in sharing my thoughts & questions on these two, from what I've read, well-made vapes.

Thanks for any help!

Get the Errlectric concentrate station controller only with a 20mm barrel coil. Then by the Newvape Flowerpot showerhead system which includes the showerhead, coil nut and coil cover for $100. The Ti showercap is optional. That is what i would do.

I have a lot of newvape shit but not a fan of their controller and coil. I almost bought the Errlectric controller but couldnt justify the price just to have it assemble to USA.

If safety is an issue, you can get a timer or a wifi plug for under $20 and set a timer or control by voice to turn on and off. Regular Enail PIDs should not be more than $200.00 unless its a dual kit or wifi connected ones like the Hexnail or Augusthaus.

 

[pxl_jockey]

I would go for Auber Instruments RDK300 + FPSH
RDK300 has built-in timer + lotsa features + UL/CE certs + US assembly
With their 20mm coil ~ $150
Quite a few respected members prefer and recommend Auber, I learn everything at FC
Auber also does a 240w for those of us not in us or Canada
Good luck with your decision and purchase!

 

[Slagzord]

I'll chime in for Auber as a safety nerd. The 300 unit has a cool down warning and won't stop blinking until the coil reads under 150. It also has a programmable auto shut off, and I believe it attempts to control over temperature over shoot and has other safety dingers.

https://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=45&products_id=484

 

[Magestral77]

Get the Errlectric concentrate station controller only with a 20mm barrel coil. Then by the Newvape Flowerpot showerhead system which includes the showerhead, coil nut and coil cover for $100. The Ti showercap is optional. That is what i would do.

I have a lot of newvape shit but not a fan of their controller and coil. I almost bought the Errlectric controller but couldnt justify the price just to have it assemble to USA.

If safety is an issue, you can get a timer or a wifi plug for under $20 and set a timer or control by voice to turn on and off. Regular Enail PIDs should not be more than $200.00 unless its a dual kit or wifi connected ones like the Hexnail or Augusthaus.

Appreciate the tips Shooby! Now I'm thinking about holding off on the FP & looking into a Glass Symphony instead at least for now. My VAS has been flowing between the Herbo ti, the FP, the Errlectric & the GS. I may need some professional help jejeje...

 

[Magestral77]

I would go for Auber Instruments RDK300 + FPSH
RDK300 has built-in timer + lotsa features + UL/CE certs + US assembly
With their 20mm coil ~ $150
Quite a few respected members prefer and recommend Auber, I learn everything at FC
Auber also does a 240w for those of us not in us or Canada
Good luck with your decision and purchase!

Thanks pxl_jockey! As I just posted above, I'm now thinking of getting a GS. I do want to get an Auber
RDK-300A for the GS if I do. Do I just need the PID box then & the GS does the rest or do I still need a coil or something? It may be a dumb question but I'm totally new to PID's, nails & coils ooh my!

 

[Magestral77]

I'll chime in for Auber as a safety nerd. The 300 unit has a cool down warning and won't stop blinking until the coil reads under 150. It also has a programmable auto shut off, and I believe it attempts to control over temperature over shoot and has other safety dingers.

https://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=45&products_id=484

Thanks Slagzord! This is exactly the PID I want to get except now it's for the Glass Symphony. Sorry if dumb question but would I still need to then purchase a coil or would the GS do the rest? I'm totally new to PID'S, coils & e-nails.

 

[Slagzord]

Thanks Slagzord! This is exactly the PID I want to get except now it's for the Glass Symphony. Sorry if dumb question but would I still need to then purchase a coil or would the GS do the rest? I'm totally new to PID'S, coils & e-nails.

Not a GS XLR many myself, but as far as I understand it you would need the enail controller to hook up to the GS XLR. From there the GS XLR has a heater cartridge you attach to the controller and badabingbadaboom crazy milky glass-powered vapor is your uncle. I think. That's just what I get from that thread. On page 16 of that thread there is a picture of the GSXLR running off the Auber 300 http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/glass-symphony-xlr.24261/page-19

Still though, if you're gonna grab the box be sure to grab the coil too! You'll never know if you want to get a NewVape Showerhead or a Liger I used to have this weird hard no concentrates attitude but I mix and match and my tolerance doesn't seem to suffer for it! Still getting well medicated off my Eds TnT microdoses

 

[Magestral77]

Not a GS XLR many myself, but as far as I understand it you would need the enail controller to hook up to the GS XLR. From there the GS XLR has a heater cartridge you attach to the controller and badabingbadaboom crazy milky glass-powered vapor is your uncle. I think. That's just what I get from that thread. On page 16 of that thread there is a picture of the GSXLR running off the Auber 300 http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/glass-symphony-xlr.24261/page-19

Still though, if you're gonna grab the box be sure to grab the coil too! You'll never know if you want to get a NewVape Showerhead or a Liger I used to have this weird hard no concentrates attitude but I mix and match and my tolerance doesn't seem to suffer for it! Still getting well medicated off my Eds TnT microdoses

You make some excellent points! There may very well still be a FP in my near future! Prob should just pick up a coil while I'm at it. That has been my fear, that concentrates will send my tolerance to the moooon! I do enjoy them on fairly rare occasions for that reason.
I've had my Ed's padauk WoodScents for only a couple week's & I'm loving it! Hits like a champ & you got to love Ed's craftsmanship & attention to detail. Great customer service too! Still love my enano. Was my daily driver but Ed's log is really something special and is my current daily driver. I find I have to have it set to a 9 or 10 to get the vapour quality that I prefer though.

 

[psychonaut]

You definitely want an enail, no matter what. It will save you money in the long term I am convinced. I have a cheap china enail from dhgate, it was around $100 shipped. Came with a case and a bunch of extra stuff that I rarely use. It has probably clocked in easily 8500 hours on the PID and I would say 7000 or so hours on the flat coil versus the barrel 20mm coil. I have no idea what safety features it has in it nor am I really concerned. I dont think these enails draw much power, I would be more worried about a 1500W space heater running to be honest. Maybe I'm naive.

The flowerpot with flowers replaced my nail with concentrates, that pretty much says it all.

 

[muunch]

I dont think these enails draw much power, I would be more worried about a 1500W space heater running to be honest. Maybe I'm naive.

I read somewhere that an enail should draw similar power to a lamp? How true this is, I have no idea, but I will say when I run my small ass space heater for 3 hrs a day it fucks up my electric bill way worse than leaving my enail on 24/7 for an entire month.

 

[psychonaut]

I read somewhere that an enail should draw similar power to a lamp? How true this is, I have no idea, but I will say when I run my small ass space heater for 3 hrs a day it fucks up my electric bill way worse than leaving my enail on 24/7 for an entire month.

The instruction manual on my enail says it is 110V / 100W. I assume that's at 1000F.

 

[muunch]

I think once it's at temp it uses less power to just keep it there though? I could be wrong and I hope some badass electrician-minded motherfucker comes in here and spin kicks my shitty argument but I think heating up is when it draws most of it's power... hence... I leave that fucker on...

 

[buckhakeesah]

Be careful with the errl. I don't think they offer a 20mm coil that will work, at least I don't see them selling one. You'd have to rewire it and even then, not sure it would work with their proprietary controller and software. Their barrel coil is an odd size, if I recall correctly. Cost wise, you're better off with Auber.

 

[pxl_jockey]

@Magestral77 No problem First off, glad you joined! I really hope you stick around now that you've made yourself known. Now back to the topic at hand:
You will not need a coil, the heater doodad provided connects to the enail. BTW, @jojo monkey, the mad scientist inventor of Glass Symphony XLR, recommends Auber Instruments on the GS thread. So there's that. So many of our members that I respect recommend/own a RDK-300, it would be difficult to not spot the pattern. Btw, you're going to love the great support & service from jojo; I am so impressed with the guy. He's hyper-intelligent, obviously, genuine, kind and he communicates so well; he's also a long time board member. I apologise if you know this already, not sure how much you've been lurking!

Members with shit-tonnes of vaporizer experience/knowledge, after a few sessions have placed the GS XLR firmly on the top shelf, a connoisseur-level flower vaporizer. Check out the slo-mo videos on the thread of the GS, the way it extracts and decimates the herb is insane. Bonkers! Best of luck to you.

 

[Magestral77]

Get the Errlectric concentrate station controller only with a 20mm barrel coil. Then by the Newvape Flowerpot showerhead system which includes the showerhead, coil nut and coil cover for $100. The Ti showercap is optional. That is what i would do.

I have a lot of newvape shit but not a fan of their controller and coil. I almost bought the Errlectric controller but couldnt justify the price just to have it assemble to USA.

If safety is an issue, you can get a timer or a wifi plug for under $20 and set a timer or control by voice to turn on and off. Regular Enail PIDs should not be more than $200.00 unless its a dual kit or wifi connected ones like the Hexnail or Augusthaus.

You definitely want an enail, no matter what. It will save you money in the long term I am convinced. I have a cheap china enail from dhgate, it was around $100 shipped. Came with a case and a bunch of extra stuff that I rarely use. It has probably clocked in easily 8500 hours on the PID and I would say 7000 or so hours on the flat coil versus the barrel 20mm coil. I have no idea what safety features it has in it nor am I really concerned. I dont think these enails draw much power, I would be more worried about a 1500W space heater running to be honest. Maybe I'm naive.

The flowerpot with flowers replaced my nail with concentrates, that pretty much says it all.

Not a GS XLR many myself, but as far as I understand it you would need the enail controller to hook up to the GS XLR. From there the GS XLR has a heater cartridge you attach to the controller and badabingbadaboom crazy milky glass-powered vapor is your uncle. I think. That's just what I get from that thread. On page 16 of that thread there is a picture of the GSXLR running off the Auber 300 http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/glass-symphony-xlr.24261/page-19

Still though, if you're gonna grab the box be sure to grab the coil too! You'll never know if you want to get a NewVape Showerhead or a Liger I used to have this weird hard no concentrates attitude but I mix and match and my tolerance doesn't seem to suffer for it! Still getting well medicated off my Eds TnT microdoses

Thanks for clarifying

You definitely want an enail, no matter what. It will save you money in the long term I am convinced. I have a cheap china enail from dhgate, it was around $100 shipped. Came with a case and a bunch of extra stuff that I rarely use. It has probably clocked in easily 8500 hours on the PID and I would say 7000 or so hours on the flat coil versus the barrel 20mm coil. I have no idea what safety features it has in it nor am I really concerned. I dont think these enails draw much power, I would be more worried about a 1500W space heater running to be honest. Maybe I'm naive.

The flowerpot with flowers replaced my nail with concentrates, that pretty much says it all.

The instruction manual on my enail says it is 110V / 100W. I assume that's at 1000F.

@Magestral77 No problem First off, glad you joined! I really hope you stick around now that you've made yourself known. Now back to the topic at hand:
You will not need a coil, the heater doodad provided connects to the enail. BTW, @jojo monkey, the mad scientist inventor of Glass Symphony XLR, recommends Auber Instruments on the GS thread. So there's that. So many of our members that I respect recommend/own a RDK-300, it would be difficult to not spot the pattern. Btw, you're going to love the great support & service from jojo; I am so impressed with the guy. He's hyper-intelligent, obviously, genuine, kind and he communicates so well; he's also a long time board member. I apologise if you know this already, not sure how much you've been lurking!

Members with shit-tonnes of vaporizer experience/knowledge, after a few sessions have placed the GS XLR firmly on the top shelf, a connoisseur-level flower vaporizer. Check out the slo-mo videos on the thread of the GS, the way it extracts and decimates the herb is insane. Bonkers! Best of luck to you.

@Magestral77 No problem First off, glad you joined! I really hope you stick around now that you've made yourself known. Now back to the topic at hand:
You will not need a coil, the heater doodad provided connects to the enail. BTW, @jojo monkey, the mad scientist inventor of Glass Symphony XLR, recommends Auber Instruments on the GS thread. So there's that. So many of our members that I respect recommend/own a RDK-300, it would be difficult to not spot the pattern. Btw, you're going to love the great support & service from jojo; I am so impressed with the guy. He's hyper-intelligent, obviously, genuine, kind and he communicates so well; he's also a long time board member. I apologise if you know this already, not sure how much you've been lurking!

Members with shit-tonnes of vaporizer experience/knowledge, after a few sessions have placed the GS XLR firmly on the top shelf, a connoisseur-level flower vaporizer. Check out the slo-mo videos on the thread of the GS, the way it extracts and decimates the herb is insane. Bonkers! Best of luck to you.

You definitely want an enail, no matter what. It will save you money in the long term I am convinced. I have a cheap china enail from dhgate, it was around $100 shipped. Came with a case and a bunch of extra stuff that I rarely use. It has probably clocked in easily 8500 hours on the PID and I would say 7000 or so hours on the flat coil versus the barrel 20mm coil. I have no idea what safety features it has in it nor am I really concerned. I dont think these enails draw much power, I would be more worried about a 1500W space heater running to be honest. Maybe I'm naive.

The flowerpot with flowers replaced my nail with concentrates, that pretty much says it all.

[QUOTE="psychonaut, post: 1209577, member:
That's a lot of hrs. Psychonaut! No wonder the banner under your handle is "high as fuck".
Kidding aside, being totally new to enails, I have to ask what are the advantages/disadvantages/differences between flat & barrel coils? Besides shape of course.
"The flowerpot with flowers replaced my nail with concentrates, that pretty much says it all"
One of the best quotes ever! I love when I hear about people rediscovering flower again. Although concentrates have their place I tend to keep to a minimum per past experience of becoming practically immune to normal bud.

 

[Magestral77]

Be careful with the errl. I don't think they offer a 20mm coil that will work, at least I don't see them selling one. You'd have to rewire it and even then, not sure it would work with their proprietary controller and software. Their barrel coil is an odd size, if I recall correctly. Cost wise, you're better off with Auber.

I think I remember reading something to that effect too. Like they go with an older version for a larger something or another...I probably sound bat-shit crazy! I gots lots of learnng to do when it comes to enails but I guess I'm learning they're actually pretty straightforward.

 

[Magestral77]

@Magestral77 No problem First off, glad you joined! I really hope you stick around now that you've made yourself known. Now back to the topic at hand:
You will not need a coil, the heater doodad provided connects to the enail. BTW, @jojo monkey, the mad scientist inventor of Glass Symphony XLR, recommends Auber Instruments on the GS thread. So there's that. So many of our members that I respect recommend/own a RDK-300, it would be difficult to not spot the pattern. Btw, you're going to love the great support & service from jojo; I am so impressed with the guy. He's hyper-intelligent, obviously, genuine, kind and he communicates so well; he's also a long time board member. I apologise if you know this already, not sure how much you've been lurking!

Members with shit-tonnes of vaporizer experience/knowledge, after a few sessions have placed the GS XLR firmly on the top shelf, a connoisseur-level flower vaporizer. Check out the slo-mo videos on the thread of the GS, the way it extracts and decimates the herb is insane. Bonkers! Best of luck to you.

Thanks man! Feels good to actually feel a part of the community. I've gained a lot of knowledge here, long before I ever joined or posted. Hopefully I'll be able to contribute some of my own experiences, viewpoints, wrong, right, or neither, in return.
Still learning how to post here via my ph. The Mods. are gonna have to work overtime fixing my posts!
So, back on point. Between what I've learned here, another vape forum & emailing @jojo monkey, I did get the Auber RDK-300A. That is after getting really frustrated being unable to find the "cart" to checkout. Guess I had to sign up first. I should admit to nothing. I wasn't even medicated. Gotta wait on the enail. Budget is not unlimited. Ordered the GS as well of course, @jojo monkey answered all my questions & made the transaction quick & pain free; unlike my dentist . Apparently besides supportiing a member of the FC community, I'm also supporting a member of my local community: His business address is only about 30 mi's from where I live .
I saw the video of that flower "transmorphing" & yeeeah, makes me want to do that ! "Decimate" indeed ! Can't wait to check out the power & the purity of this one! I will share my impressions when able.
Final note: per FC I also ordered a FC-UFO to fit it all on . Even tho I question the health aspects of Chinese glass; I do own & love one more then my much more expensive name brand. Vape on!

 

[Magestral77]

Not a GS XLR many myself, but as far as I understand it you would need the enail controller to hook up to the GS XLR. From there the GS XLR has a heater cartridge you attach to the controller and badabingbadaboom crazy milky glass-powered vapor is your uncle. I think. That's just what I get from that thread. On page 16 of that thread Still getting well medicated off my Eds TnT microdoses

By the way, I forgot to ask. What kind of wood did you get for your Ed's Tnt? Only had colonial cypress & padauk in stock when I chose the padauk. Has a nice red hue that hopefully won't diminish too much over time

 

[psychonaut]

I have to ask what are the advantages/disadvantages/differences between flat & barrel coils? Besides shape of course.

Mostly it's a compatibility issue so if you have a preference of a nail or base you might be limited to what type of coil it uses. The flat coils seem easier to warp so there may be a concern there but they seem to keep working!

Although concentrates have their place I tend to keep to a minimum per past experience of becoming practically immune to normal bud.

Just need to know how strong your material is youre working with (consistency matters too sometimes). I like to do several small dabs taking a minute or two break between. Sometimes I'll be surprised and be higher than expected and grateful I didnt dab a glob.

 

[Magestral77]

Mostly it's a compatibility issue so if you have a preference of a nail or base you might be limited to what type of coil it uses. The flat coils seem easier to warp so there may be a concern there but they seem to keep working!



Just need to know how strong your material is youre working with (consistency matters too sometimes). I like to do several small dabs taking a minute or two break between. Sometimes I'll be surprised and be higher than expected and grateful I didnt dab a glob.

Okay. So functionality is about the same then.

Micro-dabbing sounds like a good way to go, especially if you're new to dabbing I'd imagine.

 

[Slagzord]

@psychonaut I'm a big fan of microdabs. I don't fux with globs. I feel like it is a bit of a waste of material.

 

[psychonaut]

@psychonaut I'm a big fan of microdabs. I don't fux with globs. I feel like it is a bit of a waste of material.

It's all a balance. If you check out the last episode of hash church they detail optimal dabbing. Basically we still got work to do to dial it all in. Doing small dabs insures you have as little waste as possible as the oil is spread nice and thin allowing it to vaporize more effectively. Other factors like cyclone airflow and venturi effect are also important to effeciency.

The good news, 3 small dabs will do the job of 1 larger so what's the point anyway

 

[Slagzord]

Nvm I get globs now

 

[Magestral77]

It's all a balance. If you check out the last episode of hash church they detail optimal dabbing. Basically we still got work to do to dial it all in. Doing small dabs insures you have as little waste as possible as the oil is spread nice and thin allowing it to vaporize more effectively. Other factors like cyclone airflow and venturi effect are also important to effeciency.

The good news, 3 small dabs will do the job of 1 larger so what's the point anyway

It's all a balance. If you check out the last episode of hash church they detail optimal dabbing. Basically we still got work to do to dial it all in. Doing small dabs insures you have as little waste as possible as the oil is spread nice and thin allowing it to vaporize more effectively. Other factors like cyclone airflow and venturi effect are also important to effeciency.

The good news, 3 small dabs will do the job of 1 larger so what's the point anyway

A little dab will do ya!